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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
Do you think he has a special drink prepared in case he loses 2 games? Maybe a dolphin mascot he'll take a swim with? Of fuckin course he'll do his best, there's nothing else TO do. Jesus christ I hate sports "journalists" more than anything. Just an endless stream of dumb questions. "How do you feel after practically winning the world championships, Magnus?" Very hard to figure that one out. | ||
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Ravnemesteren
224 Posts
On November 16 2013 23:43 wingpawn wrote: Games 3 and 4 were really great, particularily because Anand played to his strengths: he created rich middlegames with lively tactics and Carlsen had to solve difficult problems. Games 5 and 6 were totally opposite: it was lame play by Vishy, simplifying down the even position, making tiny concessions in the process and going down in worse endgames. I really don't know what happened during that 2nd rest day, but it seems that the World Champion started to play worse chess when he came back from it on Friday. Well, you have to consider one thing. Magnus is known for squeaking out these wins in the lategame. And one of the reasons for that is that Magnus' style revolves around injecting new life into the game, time and time again, injecting new problems for the opponent to solve. This increases the chance of the opponent miscalculating, especially since Magnus is a genius when it comes to calculation. I actually think this format fits Carlsen more than any other player. | ||
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kaos00
United States125 Posts
On November 16 2013 23:54 Ravnemesteren wrote:I actually think this format fits Carlsen more than any other player. If what you think is true, then it'd be scary to think how long Carlsen will be world champion. | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
On November 17 2013 00:03 kaos00 wrote: If what you think is true, then it'd be scary to think how long Carlsen will be world champion. until some 6 year old superhuman is discovered in the amazon with even greater intelligence than von neumann, kasparov, and da vinci combined, and by 15 who reaches fide 9001 and destroys everything before suffering from a nervous breakdown before being recalled back by its alien overlords from a galaxy far far away right then | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
On November 17 2013 00:09 peidongyang wrote: until some 6 year old superhuman is discovered in the amazon with even greater intelligence than von neumann, kasparov, and da vinci combined, and by 15 who reaches fide 9001 and destroys everything before suffering from a nervous breakdown before being recalled back by its alien overlords from a galaxy far far away right then I wonder how he will feel that day. Better get some journalists on the case. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On November 17 2013 00:17 shadymmj wrote: until flash starts looking for a new hobby thank you | ||
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FalconHoof
Canada183 Posts
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
On November 16 2013 23:54 Ravnemesteren wrote: Well, you have to consider one thing. Magnus is known for squeaking out these wins in the lategame. And one of the reasons for that is that Magnus' style revolves around injecting new life into the game, time and time again, injecting new problems for the opponent to solve. This increases the chance of the opponent miscalculating, especially since Magnus is a genius when it comes to calculation. I actually think this format fits Carlsen more than any other player. Yes, but my point was that Anand's decision to simplify for endgames wasn't made because Carlsen forced him to do so; it was entirely voluntary and in fact, resulted with making permanent pawn weaknesses in both games. Strategically, this is about the worst thing a GM can do when confronting an endgame beast like Magnus. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
How can you find passion in a game in which a computer is better than a human being? Why does this not prevent you from enjoying this, if it's demystified so easily? I enjoy team games very much and tried to get into chess but motivation left me because i always knew that the most profitable moves can be calculated via computer. I really wish this was not the case. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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siri
Portugal129 Posts
On November 17 2013 01:33 kusto wrote: I have a serious question (no trolling) to all chess people here: How can you find passion in a game in which a computer is better than a human being? Why does this not prevent you from enjoying this, if it's demystified so easily? I enjoy team games very much and tried to get into chess but motivation left me because i always knew that the most profitable moves can be calculated via computer. I really wish this was not the case. So usan bolt should quit because rabbits run faster than him? Phelps should quit because dolphins swim faster? And btw, sc2 is not for you then What a dumb mindset | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On November 17 2013 01:33 kusto wrote: I have a serious question (no trolling) to all chess people here: How can you find passion in a game in which a computer is better than a human being? Why does this not prevent you from enjoying this, if it's demystified so easily? There isn't a lot of games where a computer isn't stronger than a human being, the main difference is for chess, people are/were interested to develop it. If you give money, time and manpower to produce it, any computer will destroy everyone in Starcraft/DotA/whatever the game is. What I love about chess is thinking about lines and answers by myself. If you use computers as a tool to be better and not as a mean to win games without using your own brain, I don't see why you wouldn't enjoy it. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 17 2013 01:49 Lysteria wrote: There isn't a lot of games where a computer isn't stronger than a human being, the main difference is for chess, people are/were interested to develop it. If you give money, time and manpower to produce it, any computer will destroy everyone in Starcraft/DotA/whatever the game is. What I love about chess is thinking about lines and answers by myself. If you use computers as a tool to be better and not as a mean to win games without using your own brain, I don't see why you wouldn't enjoy it. It is true, but it is way harder in those games and with the current power of pc's i don't think that would really be viable. That being said i don't understand his question either, with unlimited ressources pc's will be better than humans in everything, so yeah. | ||
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Araneae
Norway100 Posts
On November 17 2013 01:38 Arnstein wrote: As a guy with no bias in this case, I will say that Magnus definitely is the better player. As another guy with no bias at all, I agree. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2012 Posts
Even if Carlsen hadn't found any winning combinations in today's game, the long endgame still probably benefited him by putting Anand under huge mental and emotional strain for hours. Are such mind games considered fair or is there some unwritten rule about it? Personally I'm definitely fine with rather brutal and pushy mind games and all that, but I can also understand there might be reasons why it isn't considered gentlemanly conduct. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
And although it has been common in Grandmaster games to agree on a draw in theoretical drawn endgames, nowadays the trend is shifting to just grinding games out, especially because many people see how successful Carlsen is in "drawn" endgames. | ||
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oBlade
United States5831 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Check the first page of this thread. | ||
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