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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 17:33:14
November 14 2013 17:26 GMT
#881
[image loading]

36. ... Rd8 would have been a great defense because White's threat of Ned6+ and winning the rook doesn't work anymore:

37. Ned6+ cxd6 38. Rxg4 Ne5 attacks the rook and the knight.
Black gets two pieces for the rook.

Carlsen played 36. ... Rf4+ 37. Ke3 Rf8
Although this deals with the threat of losing the rook it creates a new threat for Black:
The king has stepped up and actively guards d4 for the knight to step in.
Judging by the facial expression, Carlsen didn't really expect Anand's reply:
38. Nd4!

Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 14 2013 17:44 GMT
#882
Excellent summary of game 4 by Joel Benjamin. I think the first 5 minutes are public, you should be able to watch the rest if you sign up for the free trial.

Such an interesting game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 14 2013 19:42 GMT
#883
On November 15 2013 02:26 urboss wrote:

Yeah, and not only that: ...Ne5 also threatens a fork on d3!
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
November 14 2013 20:28 GMT
#884
On November 14 2013 21:57 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 18:42 Kishin2 wrote:
Why didn't Carlsen go 42. Rd7? What could've Anand done?

Carlsen was black. 42. Rd7 is illegal due to it not getting the white king out of check.

Whoops. I mean 46. e7... why not Rd7 instead of Rg3 for Carlsen?
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 20:34:25
November 14 2013 20:34 GMT
#885
This is way more entertaining than I thought it would be. I'll be watching as many games live as possible. http://www.twitch.tv/chessnetwork gives great commentary
KTY
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 14 2013 21:08 GMT
#886
On November 15 2013 04:42 wingpawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 02:26 urboss wrote:

Yeah, and not only that: ...Ne5 also threatens a fork on d3!

that's true, so much stuff going on in this position
nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
November 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#887
Fantastic game 4!
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LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 02:50:28
November 15 2013 02:25 GMT
#888
On November 15 2013 02:26 urboss wrote:
[image loading]

36. ... Rd8 would have been a great defense because White's threat of Ned6+ and winning the rook doesn't work anymore:

37. Ned6+ cxd6 38. Rxg4 Ne5 attacks the rook and the knight.
Black gets two pieces for the rook.

Carlsen played 36. ... Rf4+ 37. Ke3 Rf8
Although this deals with the threat of losing the rook it creates a new threat for Black:
The king has stepped up and actively guards d4 for the knight to step in.
Judging by the facial expression, Carlsen didn't really expect Anand's reply:
38. Nd4!



edit: Yeah, for a while I thought white could still play Nf6 but I see that doesn't work now.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
November 15 2013 07:59 GMT
#889
why wouldn't Nef6 work?. pins the rook and bishop. black has to change rooks then the pawn on g6 is doomed
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 15 2013 08:18 GMT
#890
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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 15 2013 08:49 GMT
#891
On November 15 2013 16:59 xM(Z wrote:
why wouldn't Nef6 work?. pins the rook and bishop. black has to change rooks then the pawn on g6 is doomed


I don't know, the computer doesn't seem to like the position for White after Nf6.

After 36. ... Rd8 37. Nf6 Rxc4 38. Rxc4

[image loading]

Here Black has only one move to get his pieces going:
38. ... g5

White can pick up the g pawn with
39. Rg4
But now, finally Black's bishop can come out
39. ... Bg6 40. Rxg5
and the knight can now block the e pawn:
40. ... Ne7

[image loading]

Now there are two things going on:
Black can pin the knight on f6 and the knight doesn't have any good squares.
More importantly, both white pawns are stuck on light squares.
They will eventually be picked off by the light-squared bishop.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
November 15 2013 08:58 GMT
#892
after Rxc4 and g5?, white takes the bishop then goes Nd4 after (black)takes Rde8
faster draw
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 15 2013 09:06 GMT
#893
not sure, but after Nd4 just Nxd4 and White even loses the e pawn.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 15 2013 09:59 GMT
#894
i think g3 is the move here.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1256 Posts
November 15 2013 10:29 GMT
#895
wow, what a castle!
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
November 15 2013 10:31 GMT
#896
Thanks for making this thread! I wouldn't have known about the chess championship going on otherwise. Now I've watched game 4, which was thoroughly enjoyable, and currently watching game 5
This signature is ruining eSports.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 15 2013 10:34 GMT
#897
I was calling that castle
It's the move I would have played in that position
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
November 15 2013 10:38 GMT
#898
On November 15 2013 19:34 Ettick wrote:
I was calling that castle
It's the move I would have played in that position


pawn capture too? XD
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 15 2013 10:39 GMT
#899
black is the new white
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 10:44:32
November 15 2013 10:43 GMT
#900
a billion viewers following the games via internet/newspaper?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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