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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 13 2013 16:13 GMT
#841
yeah, something's gonna give if they keep playing games like the last two.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 13 2013 18:45 GMT
#842
Man the game tonight was intense. I dont like some of the moves late game but they definitely beautiful to watch :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 20:19:29
November 13 2013 20:18 GMT
#843
So it looks like there are many chess people here right now, so I thought I'd ask a question.

On the player's wikipedia pages there are results against other grandmasters. For example Player A vs Bobby Fischer: +3 −4 =3

How should I read that?
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 20:19 GMT
#844
On November 14 2013 05:18 Bunn wrote:
So it looks like there are many chess people here right now, so I thought I'd ask a question.

On the player's wikipedia pages there are results against other grandmasters. For example Player A vs Bobby Fischer: +3 −4 =3

How should I read that?

win 3 lose 4 draw 3
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 20:27:10
November 13 2013 20:27 GMT
#845
The more I watch of these games, and I have watched the last two a couple times now and gone over them in the app for FIDE 2013, the more I agree with Nakamura that Carlsen is having trouble with the spotlight and pressure.

Polgar also tweeted that she thinks Kasparov's appearance would affect Magnus which is an interesting consideration. For those who don't know Kasparov used to mentor Carlsen before Carlsen decided to end the partnership.

Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
November 13 2013 20:30 GMT
#846
On November 14 2013 05:19 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 05:18 Bunn wrote:
So it looks like there are many chess people here right now, so I thought I'd ask a question.

On the player's wikipedia pages there are results against other grandmasters. For example Player A vs Bobby Fischer: +3 −4 =3

How should I read that?

win 3 lose 4 draw 3


Thank you
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 13 2013 20:38 GMT
#847
On November 14 2013 05:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
The more I watch of these games, and I have watched the last two a couple times now and gone over them in the app for FIDE 2013, the more I agree with Nakamura that Carlsen is having trouble with the spotlight and pressure.

Polgar also tweeted that she thinks Kasparov's appearance would affect Magnus which is an interesting consideration. For those who don't know Kasparov used to mentor Carlsen before Carlsen decided to end the partnership.



I read Nakamura's twitter and in my opinion he is being silly. Carlsen is handling the pressure well, it's a huge amount of pressure to deal with while trying to play great chess.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22663 Posts
November 13 2013 20:49 GMT
#848
Only watched the last 2 hours of todays match but Carlsen seemed to be played well, managing to keep the game going and avoiding a draw much longer then expected.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 13 2013 20:51 GMT
#849
On November 14 2013 05:38 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 05:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
The more I watch of these games, and I have watched the last two a couple times now and gone over them in the app for FIDE 2013, the more I agree with Nakamura that Carlsen is having trouble with the spotlight and pressure.

Polgar also tweeted that she thinks Kasparov's appearance would affect Magnus which is an interesting consideration. For those who don't know Kasparov used to mentor Carlsen before Carlsen decided to end the partnership.



I read Nakamura's twitter and in my opinion he is being silly. Carlsen is handling the pressure well, it's a huge amount of pressure to deal with while trying to play great chess.


I wouldn't imagine it is the most unbiased bit of commentary, there is a bit of a rivalry there isn't there?
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 13 2013 20:59 GMT
#850
It's amazing how many variations had to be calculated in this game alone.
And there were not even queens on the board.
TLisNot4politics
Profile Joined November 2013
4 Posts
November 13 2013 21:06 GMT
#851
As much as I hate seeing Carlsen throw away an advantage, this was an excellent game, definitely worth the 6 hours I spent watching it. I suspect the time and pressure took a big toll on Anand today, and he's going to get worn down eventually.
"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period." -Barack Obama
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 13 2013 21:09 GMT
#852
On November 14 2013 05:59 urboss wrote:
It's amazing how many variations had to be calculated in this game alone.
And there were not even queens on the board.


I don't think there is such a relation that having queens means necessarily more variations.
I'm speculating, but to me it seems that with queens on the boards, there are more lines, of course, but there are less plausible variations, due to the high hostility provided by having both queens on the board.

What I mean is, moving my knight with an enemy queen on the board is tougher than if she wasn't there.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 13 2013 21:11 GMT
#853
On November 14 2013 06:06 TLisNot4politics wrote:
As much as I hate seeing Carlsen throw away an advantage, this was an excellent game, definitely worth the 6 hours I spent watching it. I suspect the time and pressure took a big toll on Anand today, and he's going to get worn down eventually.


Carlson "throwing away an advantage" is kinda harsh
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 13 2013 21:37 GMT
#854
On November 14 2013 05:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 05:38 Arevall wrote:
On November 14 2013 05:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
The more I watch of these games, and I have watched the last two a couple times now and gone over them in the app for FIDE 2013, the more I agree with Nakamura that Carlsen is having trouble with the spotlight and pressure.

Polgar also tweeted that she thinks Kasparov's appearance would affect Magnus which is an interesting consideration. For those who don't know Kasparov used to mentor Carlsen before Carlsen decided to end the partnership.



I read Nakamura's twitter and in my opinion he is being silly. Carlsen is handling the pressure well, it's a huge amount of pressure to deal with while trying to play great chess.


I wouldn't imagine it is the most unbiased bit of commentary, there is a bit of a rivalry there isn't there?


You can only have rivalry between equals. Jealousy might be more accurate.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
November 13 2013 21:38 GMT
#855
On November 14 2013 06:37 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 05:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
On November 14 2013 05:38 Arevall wrote:
On November 14 2013 05:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
The more I watch of these games, and I have watched the last two a couple times now and gone over them in the app for FIDE 2013, the more I agree with Nakamura that Carlsen is having trouble with the spotlight and pressure.

Polgar also tweeted that she thinks Kasparov's appearance would affect Magnus which is an interesting consideration. For those who don't know Kasparov used to mentor Carlsen before Carlsen decided to end the partnership.



I read Nakamura's twitter and in my opinion he is being silly. Carlsen is handling the pressure well, it's a huge amount of pressure to deal with while trying to play great chess.


I wouldn't imagine it is the most unbiased bit of commentary, there is a bit of a rivalry there isn't there?


You can only have rivalry between equals. Jealousy might be more accurate.


This. It's like saying Targa and Jaedong are rivals, haha
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 13 2013 21:43 GMT
#856
Don't make Nakamura worse than he is. At the Sinquefield Cup this year he displayed some amazing play, and stayed head to head with Carlsen.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 21:48 GMT
#857
On November 14 2013 06:43 Nyxisto wrote:
Don't make Nakamura worse than he is. At the Sinquefield Cup this year he displayed some amazing play, and stayed head to head with Carlsen.

Carlsen still won the tournament though.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
November 13 2013 21:57 GMT
#858
On November 14 2013 06:11 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 06:06 TLisNot4politics wrote:
As much as I hate seeing Carlsen throw away an advantage, this was an excellent game, definitely worth the 6 hours I spent watching it. I suspect the time and pressure took a big toll on Anand today, and he's going to get worn down eventually.


Carlson "throwing away an advantage" is kinda harsh


Were there misplays afte Bxa2? It's hard to see those !! or ?? annotations in the chess games anymore.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
November 13 2013 22:03 GMT
#859
Haha, guys, Nakamura is like #4 in the world. If he was in Carlsen's seat today, we would have equally hot battle, if not hotter.

Anyway, that stuff with 18...Bxa2 simply blows my mind. If this was a part of Anand's home preparation, he did tremendous job at figuring out the positional benefits he can get from that and ways to actually maintain his pressure without letting Black pieces out and use their extra material. Magnus reacted as many would react: if the pawn ain't poisoned, why not just take it? However, snatching it was by no means forced and it really shows how much suffering the Norwegian is willing to go through to get the slightest of long-term advantages. I guess this trend will continue, since Carlsen so far managed to avoid blunders everytime he was forced into prolonged defense. The question is whether Vishy can finally translate the activity into a win?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 13 2013 22:10 GMT
#860
I don't think Carlsen misplayed after Bxa2, but i do not get Kc3 by Anand later in the game. It disturbs the connection of his rooks, and allows Carlsens rook to come in on f3. What was so terrible about e3?

Carlsen still won the tournament though.


Sure, but he suffered quite a bit in the games against Hikaru. To say that he's jealous of Carlsen is quite the exaggeration when it comes to comparing their playing strength.
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