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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 11:14 GMT
#681
On November 13 2013 20:10 vndestiny wrote:
White has to play for the win now, since his position is advantageous but is a pawn down. So either Anand has to press his advantageous position or he'll lose. That's why this is gonna be exciting :D

Carlsen plays like 95% computer moves and engines are always happy to be a pawn up since they can always find some defense and later on exploit the material advantage.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 13 2013 11:15 GMT
#682
On November 13 2013 20:10 vndestiny wrote:
White has to play for the win now, since his position is advantageous but is a pawn down. So either Anand has to press his advantageous position or he'll lose. That's why this is gonna be exciting :D


Honestly there's not much for white to press, it's not a very dynamic position. It's not clear that white has anything here.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 13 2013 11:17 GMT
#683
It's funny how Carlsen's pieces are completely uncoordinated right now.
But it takes only a few pawn breaks and everything seems fine.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 13 2013 11:17 GMT
#684
On November 13 2013 20:17 urboss wrote:
It's funny how Carlsen's pieces are completely uncoordinated right now.
But it takes only a few pawn breaks and everything seems fine.

Welcome to the Berlin Wall :>
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 11:19 GMT
#685
what accent do people prefer? the hungarian or the indian?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 11:23 GMT
#686
Good example right here of why you actually need to look at lines. Strategically Nb5 makes sense, you want to start targetting the c7 pawn. In this position though, it's simply the wrong move order. Carlsen has a6 now, there's no sac so the knight will probably be forced to d4 where it doesn't really belong.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 11:26:24
November 13 2013 11:23 GMT
#687
If Carlson somehow lets Anand play Nc5 it would turn quite badly.
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 11:29:51
November 13 2013 11:29 GMT
#688
On November 13 2013 20:23 Orome wrote:
Good example right here of why you actually need to look at lines. Strategically Nb5 makes sense, you want to start targetting the c7 pawn. In this position though, it's simply the wrong move order. Carlsen has a6 now, there's no sac so the knight will probably be forced to d4 where it doesn't really belong.


Yeah I am also questioning this move.. what did it do exactly for white?!
gg no re
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 11:32:18
November 13 2013 11:31 GMT
#689
On November 13 2013 20:23 Orome wrote:
Good example right here of why you actually need to look at lines. Strategically Nb5 makes sense, you want to start targetting the c7 pawn. In this position though, it's simply the wrong move order. Carlsen has a6 now, there's no sac so the knight will probably be forced to d4 where it doesn't really belong.


Nd4 looks quite annoying to have to do for white.

I don't know where this is going though.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#690
a6 is best right now, you can't let that knight stay there.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#691
On November 13 2013 20:29 Malli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 20:23 Orome wrote:
Good example right here of why you actually need to look at lines. Strategically Nb5 makes sense, you want to start targetting the c7 pawn. In this position though, it's simply the wrong move order. Carlsen has a6 now, there's no sac so the knight will probably be forced to d4 where it doesn't really belong.


Yeah I am also questioning this move.. what did it do exactly for white?!


I don't know, maybe he's hoping he gets to play e6 and put a knight there? e6 with knights on d4 and f4 looks quite crushing. Hard to believe that's realistic though.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 13 2013 11:40 GMT
#692
wow, no a6
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 13 2013 11:41 GMT
#693
oh.. Rc1 was totally possible there. I wonder what would have happened with this move..
gg no re
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 13 2013 11:42 GMT
#694
And now Anand misses his shot, wow...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3458 Posts
November 13 2013 11:44 GMT
#695
Anand went for Nb5 but didn't go for R to c file immediately? Why?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 11:44 GMT
#696
Has anyone read this story?

http://www.amazon.com/Schachnovelle-German-Edition-Stefan-Zweig/dp/3596215226

Sometimes seeing a player think about a move for a very long time I start to worry that he's becoming too absorbed in the different variations and starts to lose touch with the actual game.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 11:45 GMT
#697
Adaptation(GM) kibitzes: Rc2 was a draw
Adaptation(GM) kibitzes: it wasnt easy though. Rc2 Nd5 Nb4!! Nxb4 Rxc7 Ka6 Nd6 b5 Rxf7 is enough for white
Adaptation(GM) kibitzes: they both thought the recapture was automatic
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
November 13 2013 12:08 GMT
#698
I think Carlsen have good alternatives to play here, but I'm worried that he has begun taking lots of time for his moves.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 13 2013 12:09 GMT
#699
This is precisely the right time to take lots of time for his moves ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 12:10 GMT
#700
I'm curious what he didn't like about the immediate a6. Seemed much more straightforward than what he's gone for here.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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