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Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 13 2013 12:16 GMT
#701
really strong play by Carlsen here. Doesnt care about the threat on c7
gg no re
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 13 2013 12:20 GMT
#702
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
November 13 2013 12:21 GMT
#703
On November 13 2013 20:44 Grumbels wrote:
Has anyone read this story?

http://www.amazon.com/Schachnovelle-German-Edition-Stefan-Zweig/dp/3596215226

Sometimes seeing a player think about a move for a very long time I start to worry that he's becoming too absorbed in the different variations and starts to lose touch with the actual game.


Yes, read it a few weeks ago, left a huge impression on me and really got me into chess in a weird way.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 12:25 GMT
#704
On November 13 2013 21:20 Kreb wrote:
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?

king can't move to a6 to escape and threaten the knight (you meant the move a6 instead of a5?)
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 13 2013 12:26 GMT
#705
On November 13 2013 21:25 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 21:20 Kreb wrote:
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?

king can't move to a6 to escape and threaten the knight (you meant the move a6 instead of a5?)

Yes thats what i meant.

Ok. Hmm.
jammedk
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark315 Posts
November 13 2013 12:26 GMT
#706
On November 13 2013 21:20 Kreb wrote:
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?

He wants to move it to A4, effectively freeing his rook on the A file.
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 13 2013 12:29 GMT
#707
wow he saw g6
gg no re
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 13 2013 12:35 GMT
#708
On November 13 2013 21:29 Malli wrote:
wow he saw g6

He didn't seem to have many other moves... fortunately it's a decent one!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 12:37:03
November 13 2013 12:36 GMT
#709
I hope I don't embarass myself now, but who the hell is who? I mean who is playing white atm? (No sound for me and I can't see it being displayed anywhere)

edit: ok Anand seems to play white
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 12:36:53
November 13 2013 12:36 GMT
#710
Yeah, but now it's messy!

Anand as white.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 12:37 GMT
#711
On November 13 2013 21:26 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 21:25 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 21:20 Kreb wrote:
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?

king can't move to a6 to escape and threaten the knight (you meant the move a6 instead of a5?)

Yes thats what i meant.

Ok. Hmm.


Apart from certain a4 ideas to free the rook, it provides an escape square which is really important in this particular case.
30. .. a6 31. Rdc1 Bd7 (axb5 is definitely no good here) 32. e6! fxe6 33. fxe6 and black is forced into axb5 exd7 Rh6, which is hardly better for white. If instead he plays 33. .. Be8, white has 34. Nd4! and suddenly he's wining (34. .. Nxd4?? 35. Rxc7+ Kb8 36. Rc8+ Kb7 27. R1c7#).

On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
November 13 2013 12:37 GMT
#712
On November 13 2013 21:36 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
I hope I don't embarass myself now, but who the hell is who? I mean who is playing white atm? (No sound for me and I can't see it being displayed anywhere)

edit: ok Anand seems to play white

http://chennai2013.fide.com/fide-world-chess-championship-2013-live/

are you watching there?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 13 2013 12:43 GMT
#713
I will be seriously disappointed if Magnus let him draw this.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 13 2013 12:46 GMT
#714
newbie question.
so the chesscomputer prefers blacks position quite a bit.
are those predictions of the current state always appropriate?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 12:48 GMT
#715
On November 13 2013 21:46 75 wrote:
newbie question.
so the chesscomputer prefers blacks position quite a bit.
are those predictions of the current state always appropriate?


They're not fully accurate, but they're the best evaluation you're going to get in a position like this (i.e. better than any human evaluation).

Practically speaking though, the position is extremely complex. A lot of room to go wrong for both sides.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 13 2013 12:49 GMT
#716
why can't the bishop take e6?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 12:50 GMT
#717
On November 13 2013 21:49 Doraemon wrote:
why can't the bishop take e6?


the knight's hanging
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
November 13 2013 12:51 GMT
#718
On November 13 2013 21:49 Doraemon wrote:
why can't the bishop take e6?


c6 will be weakened way too much.
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 13 2013 12:52 GMT
#719
prolly hard to evaluate with 12min remaining for anand..
gg no re
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 13 2013 12:52 GMT
#720
On November 13 2013 21:37 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 21:26 Kreb wrote:
On November 13 2013 21:25 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 21:20 Kreb wrote:
Can someone elaborate on why he didnt threaten the knight instead of moving past it?

king can't move to a6 to escape and threaten the knight (you meant the move a6 instead of a5?)

Yes thats what i meant.

Ok. Hmm.


Apart from certain a4 ideas to free the rook, it provides an escape square which is really important in this particular case.
30. .. a6 31. Rdc1 Bd7 (axb5 is definitely no good here) 32. e6! fxe6 33. fxe6 and black is forced into axb5 exd7 Rh6, which is hardly better for white. If instead he plays 33. .. Be8, white has 34. Nd4! and suddenly he's wining (34. .. Nxd4?? 35. Rxc7+ Kb8 36. Rc8+ Kb7 27. R1c7#).



Oh, look at that, we got to almost the same position by transposition, except with a5 instead of a6. :D

If the pawn was on a6, white would again have Nd4! here and would probably be winning. Because the pawn's on a5 however, the entire line doesn't work. The king has an escape square on a6.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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