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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
On July 01 2023 17:12 Jockmcplop wrote: Have you guys considered that maybe KwarK is using the language and mannerisms of Nigel Farage to satirise Nigel Farage? If that's the case, he started doing it long ago in contexts completely free of Nigel Farage. But on the other hand... what if Kwark and NF are the same person? Can You tell them apart? I sure could not. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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KwarK
United States43620 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26301 Posts
Hm, doing some digging. Seems there might be some legs to this, possibly. Maybe, who knows? The Daily Mails of the world are delightfully biting into this story as part of their unending asinine ‘war on woke’ and other outlets aren’t really reporting on it, or if they are it’s mostly shrugging and saying they can’t confirm. Considering the banking sector’s practices for much of my mature life, it seems remarkably tone deaf and arrogant for them to unilaterally act as any kind of moral arbiter. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
Edit: link for source https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-names-banks-freeze-1.6376955 | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9776 Posts
He was subsequently offered a standard account by Natwest (a regular bank) and refused it, apparently. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22112 Posts
On July 04 2023 20:36 Jockmcplop wrote: I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that there was something to the story that he wasn't telling that dramatically changed the prespective.So it turns out, after all of his ranting and raving, Farage's account at Coutt's (a prestigious bank for the wealthy) was closed because he went under the limit for how much cash you are holding in the bank. He was subsequently offered a standard account by Natwest (a regular bank) and refused it, apparently. Never could have guessed it... | ||
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mathenalin
United Kingdom120 Posts
On July 04 2023 20:36 Jockmcplop wrote: So it turns out, after all of his ranting and raving, Farage's account at Coutt's (a prestigious bank for the wealthy) was closed because he went under the limit for how much cash you are holding in the bank. He was subsequently offered a standard account by Natwest (a regular bank) and refused it, apparently. Shocking that "man of the people" Nigel Farage refused having a standard account. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom1401 Posts
On July 04 2023 20:36 Jockmcplop wrote: So it turns out, after all of his ranting and raving, Farage's account at Coutt's (a prestigious bank for the wealthy) was closed because he went under the limit for how much cash you are holding in the bank. He was subsequently offered a standard account by Natwest (a regular bank) and refused it, apparently. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66097039 BBC confirming. I'm rolling. | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
May his coffers run ever dry. | ||
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mathenalin
United Kingdom120 Posts
On July 04 2023 23:47 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Well, the one time I defend Farage (on overreach grounds, not for his sake) and he's just being a lying idiot. May his coffers run ever dry. Don't worry, a lot of people took it as a dog-whistling opportunity and now look like idiots. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26301 Posts
So now for years ‘sure Nigel Farage had his bank account closed for being conservative’ will be used as an anecdote to augment the ‘loony left are taking our freedoms’ form of argumentation | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
I don't like Farage at all but he claims Coutts have only now decided to enfore this financial requirement despite him violating it for most of the last 10 years. Apparently many people fail to meet the financial requirements for keeping an account with them but do not have their accounts closed. He also claims that NatWest (Coutts' parent company) only offered him an account after the he went public. I don't know what has happened. I do not trust Farage, but neither can I trust Coutts. I find it very strange that left-wing people are uncritically accepting the word of a bank exclusively for the wealthy. If a prominent left-wing person was in a similar position I expect the response here would be that Coutts are using the financial requirements as an excuse/a cover for a politically motivated action. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9776 Posts
On July 05 2023 19:59 Melliflue wrote: This works both ways though. If you get your news from a right-wing source then you will see Farage's claims but little to nothing about Coutts financial requirements. Similarly if you use left-wing sources then you may never have seen Farage's initial claims but would have seen an article giving Coutts' side of the story, emphasising the missed financial requirements. I don't like Farage at all but he claims Coutts have only now decided to enfore this financial requirement despite him violating it for most of the last 10 years. Apparently many people fail to meet the financial requirements for keeping an account with them but do not have their accounts closed. He also claims that NatWest (Coutts' parent company) only offered him an account after the he went public. I don't know what has happened. I do not trust Farage, but neither can I trust Coutts. I find it very strange that left-wing people are uncritically accepting the word of a bank exclusively for the wealthy. If a prominent left-wing person was in a similar position I expect the response here would be that Coutts are using the financial requirements as an excuse/a cover for a politically motivated action. On the other hand, insinuating that a clearing bank for nobles is a part of some woke leftist conspiracy (I'm looking at YOU, GB NEWS) is equally as dumb The fact is, Farage has lied, been caught in his lie, rolled back some of the stuff he said and has now moved the goalposts and is now furious about the bank making a statement about his accounting. When he's already lied in this case just a few days ago, i simply refuse to believe him at all about it any more. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18224 Posts
On July 05 2023 19:59 Melliflue wrote: This works both ways though. If you get your news from a right-wing source then you will see Farage's claims but little to nothing about Coutts financial requirements. Similarly if you use left-wing sources then you may never have seen Farage's initial claims but would have seen an article giving Coutts' side of the story, emphasising the missed financial requirements. I don't like Farage at all but he claims Coutts have only now decided to enfore this financial requirement despite him violating it for most of the last 10 years. Apparently many people fail to meet the financial requirements for keeping an account with them but do not have their accounts closed. He also claims that NatWest (Coutts' parent company) only offered him an account after the he went public. I don't know what has happened. I do not trust Farage, but neither can I trust Coutts. I find it very strange that left-wing people are uncritically accepting the word of a bank exclusively for the wealthy. If a prominent left-wing person was in a similar position I expect the response here would be that Coutts are using the financial requirements as an excuse/a cover for a politically motivated action. Mostly I think people were up in arms about the government getting involved. Left wing people (at least me) are perfectly happy to say Coutts is a piece of shit bank doing shady shit with selectively reinforcing rules. They deserve to get shut down. Meanwhile they are (I am) also perfectly happy agreeing that this is NOT the government doing jack shit. This is two spectacularly shitty individuals having a shit flinging contest, so grab the popcorn and pray BOTH of them lose! And no, I know nothing about Coutts or NatWest, but it's a bank, I don't need to know much more than that to be quite confident they are up to their elbows in dubious shit. And, well, Farage is a walking, talking turd. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22112 Posts
On July 05 2023 19:59 Melliflue wrote: If Farage's initial reaction hadn't been a lie then perhaps people would be more willing to believe his later explanations.This works both ways though. If you get your news from a right-wing source then you will see Farage's claims but little to nothing about Coutts financial requirements. Similarly if you use left-wing sources then you may never have seen Farage's initial claims but would have seen an article giving Coutts' side of the story, emphasising the missed financial requirements. I don't like Farage at all but he claims Coutts have only now decided to enfore this financial requirement despite him violating it for most of the last 10 years. Apparently many people fail to meet the financial requirements for keeping an account with them but do not have their accounts closed. He also claims that NatWest (Coutts' parent company) only offered him an account after the he went public. I don't know what has happened. I do not trust Farage, but neither can I trust Coutts. I find it very strange that left-wing people are uncritically accepting the word of a bank exclusively for the wealthy. If a prominent left-wing person was in a similar position I expect the response here would be that Coutts are using the financial requirements as an excuse/a cover for a politically motivated action. Well they wouldn't because of his entire history of lies but you get my point I hope. And its always "but if this happened to the left they would do the same" and it is so rarely true. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10854 Posts
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On July 05 2023 21:11 Gorsameth wrote: If Farage's initial reaction hadn't been a lie then perhaps people would be more willing to believe his later explanations. Well they wouldn't because of his entire history of lies but you get my point I hope. And its always "but if this happened to the left they would do the same" and it is so rarely true. My point was not that people should have believed Farage. He is a conman with a long history of deceit. My point was that people were very quick to believe the bank. (It was not even an official statement from the bank. The BBC article quoted "people familiar with Coutts' move".) For example, Wombat went from disbelieving Farage to fully believing Coutts. How many people in this thread would normally believe Coutts/NatWest? I wouldn't. The BBC journalist who wrote that article has since tweeted that people have been in touch to say their accounts haven't been suspended despite failing to meet the financial requirements. I should show the same critical thinking about the people claiming Farage is lying as I do about Farage (part of which is considering their history of honesty/integrity where Farage falls very short but banks don't fare well either.) Btw, I am appalled (but sadly not surprised) that politicians and "news" outlets like GB News ran with the story. | ||
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