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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On October 19 2019 08:50 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Pretty sure Macron was also against an extension the last time, and the time before that.Macron is now also saying the same thing. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/18/brexit-extension-unavoidable-if-mps-reject-deal-says-merkel | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On October 19 2019 08:53 Gorsameth wrote: Pretty sure Macron was also against an extension the last time, and the time before that. To be fair last time he agreed to the extension he said "I think this is the final, final deadline". Anyway, see what happens today and it will become clearer. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On October 19 2019 16:36 Artisreal wrote: The EU doesn't want a crash, and would very much prefer this deal over no-deal.I'd be rather suprised if the EU would have the UK crash out, it's all drumming support for the deal that BJ desperately needs However, it would be even happier if the deal fails, elections happen followed by a referendum between the deal and remain and have remain win. Causing the UK to remain in the EU. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On October 19 2019 19:20 Silvanel wrote: Yeah, the amount of false information coming out of Johnson is... impressive.Anyone listening to debate before vote on BoJo deal? | ||
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pmh
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Letwin:nay Kyle:not relevant Deal:yay | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Also nice of Boris to admit that they haven't bothered to look at the impact of any Brexit deal. Its basically looking like that they want to exit the European Union first then figure everything out later, including the whole deal with Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Union in general. Which is definitely the best way of going about your day to day life...how the Brexit process is occurring is the same as some guy quitting their job, telling their family to not worry about mortgage and how everything will be OK because they're British and British are hard working winners. You do have to wonder about the merits of the "democratic process" if this is the end result of it. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
The dance will continue. Boris saying he will not ask for a delay and claiming he is not required to do so. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On October 19 2019 23:25 Sent. wrote: Because the EU likely isn't going to refuse and be responsible for a hard brexit that they have been working to avoid for the last 3 years.Why not just ask for an extension and let the EU refuse as promised? I suspect the EU will wait to see what happens next week when parliament is supposed to vote on laws to implement Boris's deal. If those all pass then the UK leaves with Boris's deal, no extension needed. If they fail I expect the opposition to address the EU to give an extension so they can hold elections, EU doesn't want a deal deal exit so they grant the extension, Vote of no confidence throws out Boris and the UK will have elections. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On October 19 2019 23:36 Sent. wrote: I mean getting a refusal to force the parliament to choose between hard brexit and Boris deal. The alternative is to grant an extension for an election which could lead to the UK remaining. 4-6 months of further uncertainty could be seen as preferable to the UK leaving with hard brexiteers at the helm. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On October 19 2019 23:36 Sent. wrote: They can simply wait with giving their answer to do that and I that is why I expect them not to give an answer until parliament has voted on the implementing laws.I mean getting a refusal to force the parliament to choose between hard brexit and Boris deal. The EU can in theory wait until 22:30 on 31st October to give their answer on an extension. Forcing parliament to chose between this deal and a hard brexit isn't in the EU's interest when they would ideally want remain. And they could have, but refused to, do this for May's deal which was technically better from the EU's perspective. | ||
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Longshank
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KwarK
United States44382 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
https://mobile.twitter.com/MehreenKhn/status/1185668229986955265/photo/1 | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
He's not pulling through on his lies, threats and tantrums. What a relief. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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