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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On June 17 2017 20:16 RvB wrote: Because they're not for requisitioning buildings? There are more ways to help these people... I hope this is what this 13% means, and not "respecting the holy private property of the super-wealthy still matters more than helping those people" | ||
KwarK
United States43968 Posts
On June 17 2017 19:39 TheDwf wrote: We also learn that 13% of the population is fairly cold-hearted lol Government should pay the market price for any housing they use, thus avoiding the whole requisitioning issue. And the entire issue is opportunism, there are a large number of homeless people in the UK and those displaced by this fire are a small minority who previously had somewhere to live and will have an insurance claim for their lost property etc. He's not suggesting requisitioning to fix homelessness, he's suggesting requisitioning to help this specific wedge of high profile cases who need it less than most. Either way housing benefit already exists, the government will already pay your rent to a landlord for a property deemed suitable to your needs. Corbyn is trying to make something from nothing. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23930 Posts
On June 18 2017 02:38 KwarK wrote: Government should pay the market price for any housing they use, thus avoiding the whole requisitioning issue. And the entire issue is opportunism, there are a large number of homeless people in the UK and those displaced by this fire are a small minority who previously had somewhere to live and will have an insurance claim for their lost property etc. He's not suggesting requisitioning to fix homelessness, he's suggesting requisitioning to help this specific wedge of high profile cases who need it less than most. Either way housing benefit already exists, the government will already pay your rent to a landlord for a property deemed suitable to your needs. Corbyn is trying to make something from nothing. The population seems to agree with him, also he seems pretty pro requisition in general, I agree. I'd happily trade literally any politician for him. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18285 Posts
On June 18 2017 03:46 Plansix wrote: Am I reading it correct that the properties are vacant simply because they are investment properties and there is some attempt to drive up surrounding housing costs? Welcome to London | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Glad to see someone is testing the limits of the "free market" and what governments are generally willing to put up with. Because governments have to deal with the fall out of rising housing costs, not the property investors. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 18 2017 05:02 Plansix wrote: Glad to see someone is testing the limits of the "free market" and what governments are generally willing to put up with. Because governments have to deal with the fall out of rising housing costs, not the property investors. As if the housing market in the UK is anywhere near free is just lul, also less than 1% of properties in London are vacant a lot of it is propaganda by people like Corbyn. | ||
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KwarK
United States43968 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 18 2017 05:58 Zaros wrote: As if the housing market in the UK is anywhere near free is just lul, also less than 1% of properties in London are vacant a lot of it is propaganda by people like Corbyn. I'd like to see the non-propaganda view of putting up displaced residents from people not bemoaning private property rights in general. There's too much stick-it-to-the-rich mixed in with how to show compassion. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On June 18 2017 05:58 Zaros wrote: As if the housing market in the UK is anywhere near free is just lul, also less than 1% of properties in London are vacant a lot of it is propaganda by people like Corbyn. I don't know anything about London's specific real estate market, but below 1% for any real estate market sounds unrealistically low. Where is that number from? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9843 Posts
On June 18 2017 05:58 Zaros wrote: As if the housing market in the UK is anywhere near free is just lul, also less than 1% of properties in London are vacant a lot of it is propaganda by people like Corbyn. I will refer you to this article: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/20/over-200000-homes-in-england-still-lying-empty-despite-housing-shortages Which is now two months old: The wealthy borough of Kensington and Chelsea was the worst performer in London as super-rich owners rejected renting them out or selling up in favour of leaving their properties lying idle. The royal borough had 1,399 empty homes worth £664m, compared with second-placed Croydon, which had 1,216 empty homes worth £577m. Simply looking at the percentage of vacant properties is devoid of context. This article clarifies some of the context of recent events. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
A vehicle has struck pedestrians "leaving a number of casualties" in north London, police said. One person has been arrested following the incident on Seven Sisters Road in Finsbury Park. Officers were called at 12.20 BST and are at the scene with other emergency services, the Metropolitan Police said. A London Ambulance Service spokesman said: "We have sent a number of resources to an incident in Seven Sisters Road." www.bbc.com | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
Several people have been injured after a van struck a crowd of pedestrians near a north London mosque in what police have called a "major incident". One person was arrested following the collision near Finsbury Park Mosque in Seven Sisters Road. Officers were called at 00.20 BST and remain at the scene, the Metropolitan Police said. The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said a van "intentionally" ran over worshippers. Many of the victims are believed to have just left evening prayers after breaking the Ramadan fast. London Ambulance Service said it had sent "a number of resources" to the scene. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40322960 | ||
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KwarK
United States43968 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4751 Posts
On June 19 2017 11:31 KwarK wrote: Now all that remains is to see whether driving a van into some Muslims solves terrorism. If it does then that'll be an exciting development and we should start testing whether driving a van into food solves third world hunger. I dont think anyone says that terrorism is proper response to terror. I think most people who advocate violence as solution to this problem have government violence in mind. Mass arrests/deprtations and the likes. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
EDIT: I like how you spammed the same post across two threads. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 19 2017 18:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Is this an example of how Governments fall overnight? https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/876561599506599937 That idiot is highly tipped to be our next PM. | ||
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