UK Politics Mega-thread - Page 310

On April 04 2017 01:28 bardtown wrote:

Short answer: no. The real benefit they get from being British territories is the weight of the British military/economy in general. Scotland cannot afford the kind of research/military bases that the UK can, and does not have the international weight to stand up for the interests of territories. Also, people who feel ideologically British are pretty much the antithesis of the SNP.

On April 07 2017 00:30 Eridanus wrote:



So the long answer is 'Yes'?

If such a far-reaching scenario becomes reality, anything may happen.

Scotland doesn't need military bases. England needs Scotland for the nukes, yes. Maybe that is what you mean? The UK is an island. It is not going to get invaded any time soon. Unless you mean Scotland needs 'international weight' to 'stand up for it's territories' because it is under thread from a country with which it shares a land border?

On April 07 2017 00:14 bardtown wrote:
Then why don't you post it in the European thread? Or is your intention to gloat? I wouldn't rule out that it will continue to apply to the UK after Brexit anyway.

On April 07 2017 03:06 Eridanus wrote:
If Scotland leaves the UK, the UK needs a new spot for their nukes. Ever since the Scottish referendum, where they voted against independence, there has been debates about where the UK puts it's nukes if Scotland were to leave.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/10/britain-needs-a-new-place-to-park-its-nukes/

But you seem to think England is thrilled to relocate their nuclear sub base. To where? And if it gains them money to buy and build a new base, why don't they? Developing next-gen subs and missiles and fixing current design flaws is very expensive. Building a second sub base could therefore save a lot of money.

Now, Scotland has no military bases in England that it would need to relocate in case of independence.


The nature of my comments go way over your head, yet you call me 'illiterate'. Why?


Gibraltar isn't Scottish. And if it was, they'd probably hand it over to Spain freely. So I don't see the issue.

On April 07 2017 20:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Please stop saying "we" bardtown. You do not represent me. You do not represent the UK. You do not represent the government of the UK, nor do you represent future governments of the UK. The UK is not a football team.

On April 07 2017 21:02 Danglars wrote:

Do you not realize how tame the use of "we" is when comparing different countries or groups? It's expected and assumed what follows is the opinion of the speaker "we have good trade deals in motion/we have sufficient leverage/we're not too thrilled with foreign sovereignty."

The UK Government plans to water down regulations surrounding climate change and illegal wildlife trading in an effort to help secure post-Brexit trade, civil service documents have reportedly revealed.

Tim Hitchens, the director general of economic and consular affairs at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO), will say in a speech later this month that the UK must change its focus to carry out Prime Minister Theresa May’s vision of the country as a “great, global trading nation”.

“You have a crucial role to play in posts in implementing our new approach to prosperity against the huge changes stemming from last year’s Brexit vote,” the notes seen by The Sunday Times read.

“Trade and growth are now priorities for all posts – you will all need to prioritise developing capability in this area. Some economic security-related work like climate change and illegal wildlife trade will be scaled down.”

A changing focus would reportedly make it easier for the UK to sign deals with Africa and Latin America.

The speech will take place on 26 April at a conference called Prosperity UK, sponsored by think tanks Legatum Institute and Open Europe.

The documents were contained in a folder belonging to a senior civil servant at the Department for International Trade, and were photographed by a passenger on a train.

They also expose tensions between that department and the FCO, which are in the same building.

Some senior civil servants have expressed frustration that Liam Fox, the International Trade Secretary, is more focused on signing tariff-free trade deals around the world than rolling back regulatory burdens.

On April 10 2017 18:13 Tegenaria wrote:
Hi guys.
Its soon the presidential election in French.
Some candidate want the "Frexit" but i have no clue if its a good or bad idea.
How the "Brexit" is received in UK ?