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On August 14 2016 01:10 xM(Z wrote:http://stv.tv/news/politics/1363850-nicola-sturgeon-points-to-reverse-greenland-eu-option/ Show nested quote +Nicola Sturgeon has drawn attention to a proposal which could see England and Wales withdraw from the European Union while Scotland retains its membership.
Denmark-based academic Ulrik Pram Gad has suggested the UK could seek inspiration from Greenland, which withdrew from the European Economic Community in 1985 while the rest of the Kingdom of Denmark remained.
England and Wales could do a "reverse Greenland" by seeking a territorial exemption from the continuing UK member state, allowing Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar to retain their EU membership, Mr Gad said in an article for the London School of Economics.
Citing the contrasting referendum results north and south of the border, Ms Sturgeon has vowed to do everything in her power to maintain Scotland's place in the EU.
The First Minister took to Twitter to highlight the Mr Gad's proposal as a potential solution that would guarantee Scotland's continued EU membership, despite the UK's vote to leave. valid option or ... ?
Not valid I'd say, Scotland/NIR/Gibraltar aren't autonomous, unlike Greenland/Denmark. They would have to obtain full fiscal autonomy before this can happen, and that comes with a swathe of other problems. For example Scotland's deficit is much higher than the UK's, and not in the acceptable EU margin.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On top of that they would have much less influence in the EU as Scotland and Northern Ireland than they would as a part of the UK.
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Sturgeon is completely delusional, none of her proposals are grounded in reality.
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On August 14 2016 02:34 jello_biafra wrote:
Sturgeon is completely delusional, none of her proposals are grounded in reality.
She's a socialist so of course her policies don't make sense.
It's all academic now anyway, Times reporting they've pushed Brexit back to "at least" end of 2019.May was expected to enact Article 50 in January but that date is looking increasingly shaky.Wouldn't surprise me if they can it altogether - too much pork-barreling from the EU for the establishment to give it up so easily.If that happens look for a huge UKIP boost at the next general.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/brexit-will-be-delayed-until-end-of-2019-6kxb7sgrr
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Wow. This must make all people kind of unhappy. Not only did they destroy their own economy with the Brexit vote but now they dont even follow through with it. This sounds outrageous.
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On August 14 2016 23:20 RoomOfMush wrote:
Wow. This must make all people kind of unhappy. Not only did they destroy their own economy with the Brexit vote but now they dont even follow through with it. This sounds outrageous.
Well, I'll be happy if they revert Brexit and go for a new referendum. I'm sure a lot of people have changed their views after NHS lies,"take back control" lies, weaker pound, etc. Democracy works when there is honesty.
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At this point, the best the UK can hope for is that the negotiations drag long enough that a party which as a electioneering platform to remain within the EU win the general election.
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United States42880 Posts
I'm pretty sure that's the plan.
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On August 09 2016 00:23 bardtown wrote:
In other news, Owen Smith demonstrates that he is an absolute moron. Now below JC in my estimation, and that is quite the achievement.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37104864
If you weren't convinced: how about now? Inconceivably stupid.
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Jesus.. I thought the whole point of Owen Smith challenging Corbyn was to steer Labour away from such hippie nonsense, but it's more of the same.
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Actor says he impersonated Russian mercenary in Syria for Sky News report
A Russian actor claims the recent Sky News documentary about undercover Russian mercenaries in Syria was staged. RT spoke a man who claims to have impersonated one of the fighters the British outlet spoke to.
In a recently-aired Sky News investigation the channel claimed it uncovered facts about Russian mercenaries in Syria operating undercover.
One of the key pieces of evidence provided was an interview conducted by Sky News’ Moscow correspondent, John Sparks, who spoke to two males who allegedly comprised part of a secret Russian force, called “Wagner” operating in Syria.
One of them, named Dmitry said that some 500 to 600 people of the unit died while serving in the country. The faces of the men were hidden and voices changed “to protect their identities.”
Following the report, Russian television channel, NTV, aired its own investigation, claiming to have found Dmitry, who apparently turned out to be a Russian actor living in Moscow.
RT also contacted a man, whose real name is Aleksandr Agapov, and he said that he played the role of a “Wagner” fighter at the request of the Sky News.
“They said we have this information. You simply need to prepare yourself based on that information and make out you were in the military in Syria in a service of a private company,” Agapov told RT.
In the interview, Agapov said he had been told by the clip would be part of a movie. However after getting suspicious Agapov decided to record a conversation with Sparks that supposedly took place in a Moscow hotel. The recording was initially passed to NTV.
RT went on to check this claim as well. Our channel forwarded the recording to an acoustic analysis laboratory in Moscow for detailed information. Audio analyst Ivan Ursov said that the outcome clearly pointed to one of the voices belonging to Aleksandr Agapov.
"The results of the analysis demonstrate a 75.5 percent match between the recordings. That's good enough to conclude they are indeed the same person," Ursov said.
While analyzing the second voice the specialist found that with “85 percent certainty” it was that of Sky News correspondent John Sparks.
To clarify Agapov’s allegations we reached out to the Sky News representatives. Sky News maintained its journalistic integrity.
“Sky News stands fully behind the story which is the product of a detailed investigation over many months,” the media outlet said in an email.
https://www.rt.com/news/356422-russia-skynews-syria-actor/
I'm aware that RT is guttertrash, I'm only linking them because it's the first proper article about this in English that I've found but it's not RT that discovered this, and the actor even recorded a part of him talking with a Sky journalist about what he has to do on camera. There's a video as well in that link and you can hear it there.
Given that Sky News have done this in Romania less than 2 weeks ago where they've also lied to the actors about the video being presented as fictional, I find this believable enough to not instantly dismiss it as Russian propaganda, though Agapov's evidence is not enough yet to draw a certain conclusion.
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Lol, Sky News has pushed journalism to a whole new level, it seems.
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Fake it until you make it they say.
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So Corbyn has stepped in it apparently.
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Oh dear, bit of a stupid move on his part but his point about British railways being overpriced and generally overcrowded still stands.
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United States42880 Posts
Trainghazi time. This could be even bigger than plebghazi. British politics has the dumbest fucking scandals.
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I dont get it. What is the context of this?
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On August 24 2016 04:01 RoomOfMush wrote:
I dont get it. What is the context of this?
Judging by the article Corbyn was complaining about packed trains and that the railway should go back to being publicly owned, he did this with a video/picture of him sitting on the floor because of how full the train was.
The train company retaliated by showing CCTV images of Corbyn on the train in question and that there was clearly plenty of space.
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United States42880 Posts
It's pastyghazi all over again. A politician pretending to be a man of the people in front of cameras.
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