UK Politics Mega-thread - Page 17

On September 11 2013 09:22 Eufouria wrote:
I don't know why his brother wasn't voted as leader. I've passed Ed Milliband in the street before and he looked as awkward and scared of the world as he does in front of a camera, I really don't think he's cut out to lead anyone.

On September 11 2013 09:27 Zaros wrote:


His brother wasn't much better tbh, a mini-blair a slightly better performer and slightly better ideas but still meh. I don't think labour really have anyone good enough.

On September 11 2013 08:21 Zaros wrote:


another bland boring speech, I think Labour's poll rating will implode before the election. Cons are already level with Labour 1.5 years before the election and I would think their ratings can only go up unless something really bad happens, they might actually get a majority government in 2015.

José Manuel Barroso launched into a sensational attack against David Cameron today, declaring Ukip will trounce the Tories in next year's European elections to become the "first force" in British politics.

The European Commission President accused the Prime Minister of manipulating his personal views for political gain, implying that while Cameron's Euroscepticism is an act, Ukip's is genuine - granting them favour with voters.

He argued the Tories were moving out of the European mainstream, to become more like Ukip in an effort to placate voters.

“I’m not saying that happily, because I think increasingly your party and your group is looking like Ukip and the eurosceptic, anti-European group,” Barroso said.

But he added that he did not think the Tories' tactics would work in the polling booths, and that voters would choose to support Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

"I have some doubts whether you are going to be elected in Britain or if it is not Ukip that will be the first force in British elections," he told MEPs today.

"Because when it comes to be against Europe people prefer the original to the copy. That is probably why they are going to vote for Mr Farage," he argued.

Shockingly, he declared that critics of the European Union could instigate a new world war.

On September 12 2013 06:53 GhastlyUprising wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't even be a debate over immigration.

We live on a planet that's so vastly overpopulated that we're rapidly depleting the planet's resources and might be heading toward destruction if we try to maintain our present lifestyles. That isn't my opinion, but the consensus of the scientific community.

England is one of the most densely populated countries on a dangerously overpopulated planet.

On September 12 2013 07:10 3Form wrote:
Having just got back from a railway trip through Siberia and Mongolia, I can tell you you are categorically talking out of your arse.

On September 12 2013 07:10 3Form wrote:Having just got back from Guangdong province I can tell you "you ain't seen nothing yet". It's TWICE as densely populated as the UK.

On September 12 2013 07:41 Zaros wrote:
90% of the UK is countryside, clearly overpopulated.

On September 12 2013 07:50 GhastlyUprising wrote:
Yes, if your definition of countryside is "not buildings". I go for walks across Britain quite a lot and I wouldn't define most of what I see as "countryside".

By your logic the country isn't overpopulated until it looks like Blade Runner.

The latest Ipsos MORI poll puts Labour on 37 per cent and the Tories on 34 per cent, up four points from last month. The Liberal Democrats are unchanged on ten per cent.

Six in ten people – 60 per cent – said they were dissatisfied with the Labour Leader, while 24 per cent are satisfied.

This puts his overall satisfacting rating at -36 per cent – his lowest ever since he became leader – and on a par with Iain Duncan-Smith and William Hague (both on -37).

The poll also shows almost twice as many people think David Cameron is a capable leader compared to Mr Miliband.
Some 47 per cent say Mr Cameron is good in a crisis compared with 20 per cent who the same of Mr Miliband.

On September 12 2013 08:26 Zaros wrote:


its an official survey of the whole of the UK got the figures slightly wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096

On September 12 2013 09:18 GhastlyUprising wrote:
So only 2% of the area of the UK is build on. Not sure why you think that's interesting.

For those of us who don't have wet dreams about the future described by Blade Runner, the fact that there's room for more buildings has NOTHING to do with whether an increased population makes for a sensible policy.

The reality is that much poverty in the world has to do too many people inhabiting too small a patch of land. Nor do countries that don't subsist primarily by agriculture have any godlike powers relative to the developing world. Already we're struggling to maintain the lifestyle that we experienced before 2008. An additional wave of immigrants would be disastrous. Building houses on the remaining 98% of land and inviting the rest of the world to come to stay for tea and crumpets, and possibly forever if they want, would be as sure a way of inviting catastrophe as dropping a nuclear warhead.

On September 12 2013 09:18 GhastlyUprising wrote:
So only 2% of the area of the UK is build on. Not sure why you think that's interesting.

For those of us who don't have wet dreams about the future described by Blade Runner, the fact that there's room for more buildings has NOTHING to do with whether an increased population makes for a sensible policy.

The reality is that much poverty in the world has to do too many people inhabiting too small a patch of land. Nor do countries that don't subsist primarily by agriculture have any godlike powers relative to the developing world. Already we're struggling to maintain the lifestyle that we experienced before 2008. An additional wave of immigrants would be disastrous. Building houses on the remaining 98% of land and inviting the rest of the world to come to stay for tea and crumpets, and possibly forever if they want, would be as sure a way of inviting catastrophe as dropping a nuclear warhead.

On September 11 2013 09:22 Eufouria wrote:
I don't know why his brother wasn't voted as leader. I've passed Ed Milliband in the street before and he looked as awkward and scared of the world as he does in front of a camera, I really don't think he's cut out to lead anyone.