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My problem is that when i am playing starcraft 2, i get ice fingers, i mean RLY cold fingers and even the whole hand, (so cold that it hurts touch my arm or anything because they are SO cold) There are 20°C + in my room, i even sit in my t-shirt because i am heavy sweating when i play. When i play relaxed i dont get it so hard but when i am playing my normal 300+apm game my fingers start hurting from coldness after 10-20 minutes.
Anyone has the same problem or an idea how to work against it ? it prevents me from playing alot when i have to run to the bathroom after every game to use the hair drower to warm my hands up again ...
update: i also get damn cold feets and sweat my socks wet oO
Try wearing a particularly warm woolen sweater and a scarf. Your core will heat up and your body will divert blood into your extremities to cool down.
About those cold hands, that's a reaction your body has under stress. Adrenaline does something to the circulation to prepare the body for action on a hunt or a fight or something like that, which of course makes no sense when sitting in front of a computer but there's still nothing you can do about this.
I got the same problem even without 180 apm, it doesn't neccessarily have to do with that, it's just about circulation and some amounts of adrenaline. move them arround a bit, put em under your shirt or something to warm them back up.
also, maybe that's just because i'm lazy as hell, but if you have to run to the bathroom after every game why not just move your hairdryer to your pc? :p
I had that problem with a heavy mouse. Switched to a lighter one, problem almost gone. Now it only comes back if the floor is pretty cold, and that can be remedied by two pairs of socks.
1) Take shower 2) Wrap hands around your ballsack 3) Wash hands with warm water 4) Contain body heat by wearing shoes/slippers 5) Experience fire hands 6) gg
Ive got the same problems as you when i played fps for hours and for me it was the lack of movement. To get rid of it i had to excercise between games or every few minutes for example stretching or do pushups after deaths. At one point i increased the difficult so i started lifting everytime i died and i died even more because of it. My hands started to shake of the exercise and i couldnt aim at anything. Fun times! :D
Grab some fingerless gloves. luckily I'm in australia where you can get the best soft gloves for this sort of thing, blended possum fur and sheepswool (called possum merino) gloves. I get mine from a place called mongrel socks, but there's loads of places in AU and NZ that sell them online so you should be able to get them easy enough.
It's not a perfect solution, but it's comfy and it helps a fair bit, especially if you make sure to get tight fitting gloves. possum merino is super stretchy and soft so you shouldn't have fitting problems.
you can also try the old trick of friction rubbing your hands a lot to warm them, but you need insulation like gloves to keep things like that.
On May 25 2013 20:38 Rimstalker wrote: I had that problem with a heavy mouse. Switched to a lighter one, problem almost gone. Now it only comes back if the floor is pretty cold, and that can be remedied by two pairs of socks.
i have a computer table which is metal and my feets are on the lower level so on cold metal, jaeh thats bad i guess i try with shoes etc, also i already make a towel under my keyboard so i not get in contact with cold metal there socks are problem because i sweat there while gaming too and then i have to change them often (like my tshirts i ryl switch them every 2 hours while playing) after i stop gaming and watch some dvd after just 10 minutes my hands back warm its rly only the sc2 gameing (other games no problem)
I have Raynaud's disease so my fingers and feet are always plenty chilly, especially while I'm at the computer or practicing as I'm just sittin there doing fuck all but playing/typing. In order to keep it at bay I wear gloves year round and fingerless gloves while I play. I would really suggest investing in a pair, but if you're worried it might impact your RoM then be sure to try them on in person instead of order them online. I have a set for gaming and a set for playing the piano because of this. Thumbs don't do much playing SC2, but I need full RoM in my thumbs when i practice.
It would also help to get your blood flowing, do some jumping jacks or push ups before you sit down to play, when it's cold outside I always sync up my gym visits prior to practicing because it makes quite a noticeable difference. Aside from that I would really suggest going to a Dr. and just getting his opinion, possibly a blood panel too if this is a reoccurring thing. The fact that the rest of your body is warm isn't good. Better be safe than sorry, gl!
A) Fist your dogs ass hole B) Fist your own ass hole C) Wrap your ball sack firmly around your hands for about 3 minutes D) Swirl your hand around in some throw up (either yours or your fat old girlfriend)
On May 25 2013 21:52 NaEjeOn88 wrote: A) Fist your dogs ass hole B) Fist your own ass hole C) Wrap your ball sack firmly around your hands for about 3 minutes D) Swirl your hand around in some throw up (either yours or your fat old girlfriend)
On May 25 2013 21:52 NaEjeOn88 wrote: A) Fist your dogs ass hole B) Fist your own ass hole C) Wrap your ball sack firmly around your hands for about 3 minutes D) Swirl your hand around in some throw up (either yours or your fat old girlfriend)
On May 25 2013 21:52 NaEjeOn88 wrote: A) Fist your dogs ass hole B) Fist your own ass hole C) Wrap your ball sack firmly around your hands for about 3 minutes D) Swirl your hand around in some throw up (either yours or your fat old girlfriend)
On May 25 2013 21:52 NaEjeOn88 wrote: A) Fist your dogs ass hole B) Fist your own ass hole C) Wrap your ball sack firmly around your hands for about 3 minutes D) Swirl your hand around in some throw up (either yours or your fat old girlfriend)
Huh? Lol
LOL! Don't forget to wash your hands! (With warm water ofc) ^^
Putting your hands and strechted fingers between your thighs? Between flabs of fat (if you have any). Your belly might warm them up too
Fingers are extremities, so are toes and your penis. They get colder than other more central regions of your body because of bloodflow and being farther away from your core.
My tips might just help
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Yah happens to me too and it makes no sense, I mean I'm sitting in a 30C room with sweaty balls then all of a sudden boom freezing hands after 2 games of SC!
It's definitely not an ambient temperature or circulation thing, like others have said adrenaline man, damn adrenaline.
I have the same problem in winter because my room gets too cold in the winter and I cant keep my hands warm.It doesnt effect me in casual games but games like starcraft you cant really play with cold hands. What I do is wearing hacker gloves(gloves with cut fingertips) when I play high apm games.
You stand up with your arms out and spin around and around really fast so that blood gets pushed into your hands which makes them warm. Swirl your ice fingers away.
Standard Fight or Flight reaction. Bloodflow diverts to the more important systems to keep you alive, flowing from your extremities to your torso. Only way to "fix" it is to play so many games you don't get that reaction anymore from the ladder.
On May 25 2013 23:57 Uncultured wrote: Standard Fight or Flight reaction. Bloodflow diverts to the more important systems to keep you alive, flowing from your extremities to your torso. Only way to "fix" it is to play so many games you don't get that reaction anymore from the ladder.
Just some nitpicking: it's not really flowing away from the extremities. It's constricting the comparably tiny blood vessels in the skin. It's just that hands are mostly skin. The muscles in the forearm will still get more blood because of higher blood pressure than normal, helping you in gripping your weapon better in a fight or flight scenario. That reaction of the body is of course totally useless when you want to do sensitive tasks with your hands like using a mouse and keyboard.
It could either be nervousness and adrenaline, or it could be you are just unhealthy.
If your cold hands are accompanied by anxiety, shaky hands, or the sudden need to urinate, then your problem is likely mental.
In intense situations our body does things to increase our chances of survival. It makes us on edge, ready for a sudden threat (anxious). We (along with most mammals) will urinate ourselves when threatened, making us stinky and unappetizing . Blood flows less to our extremities like fingers and toes, instead we protect our bodys core by keeping it warm and our body focuses on delivering fresh oxygenated blood to the larger more important muscles (the ones that matter in a fight for our life).
If you are psyching yourself out in each game because winning or loosing is all-important or you just get too excited, then you can try breathing exercises but beyond that it's something that mentally you will just have to overcome. The more and more games you play, the less stressful it should become.
If none of this applies to you, you are probably unhealthy and just need to do some stretches and maybe go on a walk once or twice a week.
I had this problem pretty bad a few months ago, but I've gradually managed it just by trying to hold the mouse in different ways and not tensing my hand too much while playing it.I found that because I rested my wrist on the table, it puts a lot of pressure on the wrist which restricts the blood flow.
One way to reduce the pressure on your wrist is to not rest your hand too much on the table but use your arm muscles to slightly lift your mouse hand. Eventually this will put strain on your arm so you gotta balance it. Also, moving your mouse hand further away from you might help.
The worst thing is when your hand is at too much of an upwards angle. It feels so much more relaxed when your hand is in a straight line with your whole arm, and you can lower the angle by using a higher table or moving your mouse hand further away from you, as well as by having a lighter grip on the mouse.
As for your keyboard hand, it's all about not tensing it too much, and if you wrest it on the table then don't do that as much.
It doesn't help if the room is cold or if the window is open too much, which is annoying because I like to have fresh air in the room. But after a few weeks of practising these techniques, you should be able to manage it better and at least be able to last a game without having to warm up your hands mid way.
On May 26 2013 03:12 ZerO_0 wrote: Could be lack of movement and blood flow. You should between games stretch and move around to keep the blood moving.
I think it's this, I was having some very minor issues with numbness too, that ice fingers kind of feeling. I adopted a more relaxed grip on my mouse, moved the mouse up farther so more of my arm was resting on the table (taking pressure off my wrist) and have been trying to use my thumb and pinky/ring fingers to move the mouse more than using my wrist to do it and I haven't had trouble since.
Definitely roll your fingers, make a fist a few times etc. after each game too, to keep everything flexible and the blood flowing.
1- Eat and lift. The more you work out, the more you will run hot. Cold weather will begin to affect you less. 2- Get "hot hands" packets. They are so cheap. At Wal-Mart here in Texas it's like two bucks for five of them.
Man when I play big games especially with my team I get the same problem, now in Indian summers it gets pretty hot but ACs are often used and my favorite cyber PC is right below the godamn chilling machine ,so I just play a few rounds of thumb wrestling with our carry player cause we both have the same problem, it's most usually the adrenaline rather than the cold though
On May 25 2013 20:22 CoR wrote: dont know of sc2 or general section so ... move it if its wrong
My problem is that when i am playing starcraft 2, i get ice fingers, i mean RLY cold fingers and even the whole hand, (so cold that it hurts touch my arm or anything because they are SO cold) There are 20°C + in my room, i even sit in my t-shirt because i am heavy sweating when i play. When i play relaxed i dont get it so hard but when i am playing my normal 300+apm game my fingers start hurting from coldness after 10-20 minutes.
Anyone has the same problem or an idea how to work against it ? it prevents me from playing alot when i have to run to the bathroom after every game to use the hair drower to warm my hands up again ...
update: i also get damn cold feets and sweat my socks wet oO
You may want to get tested to see if you have Raynaud's or similar condition. It could just be something simpler like accidentally cutting off circulation because of bad mouse/keyboard posture, but because of the severity of the cold it could be more serious.
On May 26 2013 03:12 ZerO_0 wrote: Could be lack of movement and blood flow. You should between games stretch and move around to keep the blood moving.
I think it's this, I was having some very minor issues with numbness too, that ice fingers kind of feeling. I adopted a more relaxed grip on my mouse, moved the mouse up farther so more of my arm was resting on the table (taking pressure off my wrist) and have been trying to use my thumb and pinky/ring fingers to move the mouse more than using my wrist to do it and I haven't had trouble since.
Definitely roll your fingers, make a fist a few times etc. after each game too, to keep everything flexible and the blood flowing.
It absolutely is an issue with circulation and finger/hand activity. Although it might seem somewhat counter-intuitive, your hands and arms move far less when operating a keyboard and mouse for long periods of time and it is their activity that dictates blood flow to the hand, moreso than the specific fingers. So while it might be logical to stretch your fingers and hand when they are cold, it would actually help more to stretch the entire arm and do some arm circles.
On May 25 2013 20:39 shin_toss wrote: use hot packs
how they work ? like they stay warm after every game to use or what ?
In cold countries they usually have that, You put it in a warm thing , the pack absorbs the heat and it stays there for a while. but some uses chemical like this one.
Hot water does wonders, i dip hands in for a while and do some hand exercises (underwater) pretty often when i play hard (every hour or two, or after a big game)
Love the adrenaline and frozen hands just come with that so that's the best solution i found (: gl
Used to have this problem, dont remember how/when/why it disappeared. Probably connected to heartrate and stuff since I have severe problems like this when I compete in XC skiing.
This occurs from blood circulation being cut off when you're really tense. You need to open up your posture more so that the blood gets to your hands (and feet for some). Make sure you're sitting with your back straight and arms forming at least a 90 degree bend at the elbow (same with your legs at the knee).
At least, this solves it completely for me. Used to happen to me during Counter-Strike and WoL beta.
I had that problem with my mouse hand when I was using a very heavy wireless mouse, I switched to a much lighter wired one and the problem is now completely gone
What it very well could be is just where your hand are. If your keyboard/mouse are above "level," then your hands will get cold as the blood is being rushed away from them. A simple solution to that issue is to lower your play setup.
The other stuff is nerves. Find a way to collect yourself before and after a game. You're getting tensed up, causing the blood circulation to act in ways it is not used to behaving. Take time in between each game, and perhaps read up on some sports psychology tips to perform under pressure (they really helped me).
I wish you the best of luck moving forward, coming from someone who had nearly the same issue!
None of the warming techinques, involving soaking in hot water or drinking something hot, seem to work for me but the pressure points and stretches described in this article seemed to help me tons. http://drbenkim.com/blood-circulation-arms-hands.html
Warm your hands up between each game with basic stretching. Also, if you are low on water, your blood is gonna have a harder time getting to your fingers fast enough for them to keep warm.
I kinda had those problems in my early BW days, however somewhere along the lines i learned to control my bloodflow ;p This means i can warm up any part of my body i want, including fingers, so i have no problem with that anymore.
However, streching and massagin exercises are still the next best thing to do. Useing things like hot packs, is like pissing yourself to keep the warmth. Your fingers will be very hot for a while, then get really cold again.
Playing in the marching band back in high school, I'm reminded of those sub freezing days outside before the sun came up and having to do remarkable amounts of finger coordinating things. It's never felt the same way with cold hands while being on the computer. The former could usually be remedied with warmer clothing, hot packs, and/or a warm drink. However, with gaming, those things always make it worse for me. Instead, what helps the most is relaxing and doing relaxing things, like listening to music or going to the bathroom. I have a feeling that things like posture probably play a role as well, but the general idea is to find a way to relax.
On the note of adrenaline, I have always found there is a "sweet spot," where you're pumped full of adrenaline but don't feel frantic.
Poor posture in the neck/shoulders can lead to your hands falling asleep which can make them feel cold and unresponsive. If the poor posture is in the wrists bloodflow can be cut off and they can become cold and painful. First thing to check is if you are reaching forward or hunching down to reach your mouse and keyboard or to view your monitor.
The next thing to check is to make sure your feet are flat on the floor. If it's a hassle to maintain good posture while doing so you need to change the elevation of your screen, chair, mouse and keyboard. Also you may need to move everything including your chair closer or farther from the desk (most likely closer).
Also check out RSI (carpel tunnel) you may have this as well. It is caused by bad posture as well. It contributes to lack of bloodflow and can cause pain in the wrists forearms and thumbs. Depending on the severity (if postural correction doesn't do it) you will have to do some stretching and simple quick exercises or you may have to take some time off. It's not a big hassle as you should be doing them already if you are an avid PC user to help reduce injury and fatigue.
I can help you with streches/exercises if you need. Just send a pm.
I got a pair of fingerless gloves and stuck small heating packs inside of them on the back of my hand. They dont get in the way and your entire hand stays warm.
On May 26 2013 15:29 Inoshishi wrote: None of the warming techinques, involving soaking in hot water or drinking something hot, seem to work for me but the pressure points and stretches described in this article seemed to help me tons. http://drbenkim.com/blood-circulation-arms-hands.html
Could you have problem in your circulatory system? xD
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