EPTOn April 12 2013 12:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
im not sure you're using that term as it applies to rational people.
im not sure you're using that term as it applies to rational people.
Then I guess there's no hope for a free market at all.
US to criminalize taping of animal cruelty - Page 10
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
Then I guess there's no hope for a free market at all. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:10 dAPhREAk wrote: correct. the illegality was the point of the example. I don't get it. The problem is still the property issue. But we already have laws for that... If you were trespassing and saw your neighbor dealing with the Mafia or the local drug dealer, that would be a more related discussion. After all, the law is on property rights when it concerns the recording of illegal actions. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:13 acker wrote: I don't get it. The problem is still the property issue. But we already have laws for that... If you were trespassing and saw your neighbor dealing with the Mafia, that would be a more related discussion. i suggest you stop cutting the quotes out then. it would make more sense if you read it in context. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:15 dAPhREAk wrote: i suggest you stop cutting the quotes out then. it would make more sense if you read it in context. Still doesn't make sense. Cases like that happen all the time. The law allows the police to arrest whoever violated property rights in the first place, but it still doesn't forbid the press or the public from referencing, narrating, or even broadcasting the video. Unless it's child porn or nuclear instructions or something*. The alternative would, quite frankly, be unenforceable. *Actually, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to disseminate classified nuclear instructions, long as you're not government-employed. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:15 dAPhREAk wrote: i suggest you stop cutting the quotes out then. it would make more sense if you read it in context. It's still doesn't make any sense. There's a difference between videotaping something as a whistleblower, and doing in it for your own pleasure. And so private property defends people from any sort of creep wanting to film them in secret, though it does not defend an individual from exposing a corporation's illegal and/ or immoral actions. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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gosublade
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On April 12 2013 20:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Man did I misunderstand this title. That's messed up. If you want to change the title, feel free ! | ||
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
On April 12 2013 04:22 FarmI3oy wrote: So many people have problems with big agriculture and worry about how their food gets to their plate. I'm glad I don't have this problem. Every bit of meat I eat is killed, butchered, and cooked with my own two hands. People whine and complain about how animal's are treated when they are being raised for slaughter. They even have the stones to complain about how they die. Don't like it? Do it yourself or fuck off. Ok so say your internet keeps disconnecting and is very slow. Do you lose the right to complain because you did not set up the server and pull the wires to your house? | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On April 12 2013 20:16 Kukaracha wrote: If you want to change the title, feel free ! I think he missread a T with a F | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
create one nonprofit organization/association that would work for the people (?, ye it's vague but w/e), financed by voluntary donations from (all off) them americans and lobby the shit out of your political puppets. else you can't win. else you will never win. it's time for 'the people' to play the game too. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
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xwoGworwaTsx
United States984 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 12 2013 20:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Man did I misunderstand this title. That's messed up. Don't worry. For many years I though your avatar was a dead fish with a big dorsal fin. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On April 12 2013 03:53 hfglgg wrote: lol this is by far the most stupid thing i have ever heard from a non muslim extremist country. You must not be very informed. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
but im wondering. If cruelty to animals is already illegal... how can they approach fimlming something illegal as illegal... It's so specific, its transparent, its a law made to help people get away with braking the law.... like what?! | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On April 12 2013 23:29 ComaDose wrote: yeah daPhreak was right in that it was already illegal to breech you contract with your employer. but im wondering. If cruelty to animals is already illegal... how can they approach fimlming something illegal as illegal... It's so specific, its transparent, its a law made to help people get away with braking the law.... like what?! They're not trying to make filming animal cruelty illegal, they're trying to make filming illegal. The fact that they asked for this specification of the law *after* they were caught performing animal cruelty is just "by chance"  | ||
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