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US to criminalize taping of animal cruelty

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Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
April 11 2013 18:39 GMT
#1
A dozen of US states are voting, or have voted what some call "ag-gag" laws, which prohibit anyone from taping and exposing animal cruelty in american farms. It goes as far as requesting new employees to declare any links with animal rights groups, and forcing the latter to give any footage already in their possession.

On one covert video, farm workers illegally burn the ankles of Tennessee walking horses with chemicals. Another captures workers in Wyoming punching and kicking pigs and flinging piglets into the air. And at one of the country’s largest egg suppliers, a video shows hens caged alongside rotting bird corpses, while workers burn and snap off the beaks of young chicks.

Each video — all shot in the last two years by undercover animal rights activists — drew a swift response: Federal prosecutors in Tennessee charged the horse trainer and other workers, who have pleaded guilty, with violating the Horse Protection Act. Local authorities in Wyoming charged nine farm employees with cruelty to animals. And the egg supplier, which operates in Iowa and other states, lost one of its biggest customers, McDonald’s, which said the video played a part in its decision.
[...]
But a dozen or so state legislatures have had a different reaction: They proposed or enacted bills that would make it illegal to covertly videotape livestock farms, or apply for a job at one without disclosing ties to animal rights groups. They have also drafted measures to require such videos to be given to the authorities almost immediately, which activists say would thwart any meaningful undercover investigation of large factory farms.

Critics call them “Ag-Gag” bills.

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The law has been voted in Iowa, Utah and Missouri, and is expected to be voted in Indiana and Tennessee.
The initiative comes from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative think tank also responsible for the "stand your ground" legislation showcased in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. In 2002, the ALEC had already proposed a similar law, which labeled the unauthorized taping of farming infrastructures and methods as "terrorism". The logic behind this is that the exposure of animal abuse gives a bad reputation to the agricultural industry, and that farms are private property.

However,
Factory farms, like all homes and businesses, are already protected by law against trespassing. The so-called “ag-gag” laws now being considered by several states, including California, Illinois and Indiana, have nothing to do with protecting property. Their only purpose is to keep consumers in the dark, to make sure we know as little as possible about the grim details of factory farming. These bills are pushed by intensive lobbying from agribusiness corporations and animal production groups.

The ag-gag laws guarantee one thing for certain: increased distrust of American farmers and our food supply in general. They are exactly the wrong solution to a problem entirely of big agriculture’s own making. Instead of ag-gag laws, we need laws that impose basic standards on farm conditions and guarantee our right to know how our food is being produced.

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Such is the price of cheap meat.


(NB : interesting fact, I read this on a French newspaper, only to realize that it was the direct translation of a NY Times article... without any mention of the original source. I wonder if it's a normal thing to do...?)
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
April 11 2013 18:41 GMT
#2
On April 12 2013 03:39 Kukaracha wrote:
requesting new employees to declare any links with animal rights groups


"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of an animal rights organization?"
shikata ga nai
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
April 11 2013 18:41 GMT
#3
What? They're making taping of animal mistreatment illegal, but the actual treatment is a-ok?

What the motherfuck. AFK, I need to hit something, or someone.
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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
April 11 2013 18:43 GMT
#4
Doesn't this take Freedom of the Press and kick it under the bus?
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
April 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#5
Not surprised, sadly. This is basically governments putting on their Bill Lumbergh face and saying "Hey guys, I know we have animal welfare laws and stuff, but big farming is big money, so we don't enforce them. Actually, we don't enforce very many policies in agriculture, since our monitoring agencies are run by the entities they're supposed to be monitoring in the first place. You're telling people about that, which we don't like, as it ultimately costs us money and makes us look bad, so we're just going to make making us look bad illegal. Thanks a bunch!"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18824 Posts
April 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#6
I think the organization behind this movement is severely discounting how pissed off animal rights folk already are and will be in the face of something as ridiculous as this.

What they ought to be focusing on is the banning of any and all Sarah McLachlan songs from animal rights commercials.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
April 11 2013 18:48 GMT
#7
Reading the OP made my soul sick.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
April 11 2013 18:49 GMT
#8
Interesting essay on it here:

http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2013/04/are-those-who-expose-animal-torturers-terrorists-us-lawmakers-think-so/
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:52:22
April 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#9
In 2002, the ALEC had already proposed a similar law, which labeled the unauthorized taping of farming infrastructures and methods as "terrorism"


Seriously?

That is just crazy. Any links to this too? Can't seem to find the exact info :S
Bleh.
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
April 11 2013 18:51 GMT
#10
On April 12 2013 03:41 sam!zdat wrote:
"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of an animal rights organization?"

I heard that freedom can only be ensured by developping the largest prison system ever seen.

On April 12 2013 03:41 plated.rawr wrote:
What? They're making taping of animal mistreatment illegal, but the actual treatment is a-ok?

It's not THAT bad, it's still illegal if the understaffed administrations in charge of controlling animal cruelty in the agricultural industry catch them red-handed.
Budget cuts are coming, but there is still a chance that some will get caught. Others will win the lottery, so everything balances out.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
April 11 2013 18:53 GMT
#11
lol
this is by far the most stupid thing i have ever heard from a non muslim extremist country.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 18:57:28
April 11 2013 18:57 GMT
#12
(NB : interesting fact, I read this on a French newspaper, only to realize that it was the direct translation of a NY Times article... without any mention of the original source. I wonder if it's a normal thing to do...?)

its called plagiarism, its pretty normal :p.

Incredibly fucked up situation, contact your legislator!
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#13
The law is Anti PETA, ajnd/or so called "Eco Terrorists" (I don't equate filming with bomb threats or acts of violence/vandilism, but its usage in the law is hyperbolic so why not be myself) and their becoming employees of big agriculture thus circumventing a lot of the trespassing and filming in secret.

I have no issue with their filming, animal rights isn't a big pet issue for me, but if activists are getting through your presumably exhaustive screening process for employment their activities are on you as a company. Your employees shouldn't have to be made party to abuse by virtue of you not adhering to existing legislation whether they are activists or not. If employees are doing this for fun, that video should serve as excellent evidence for their termination.

If they are simply documenting industry standard slaughterhouse procedure which is within the limits of the current law I don't see any problem either (unless they have industry secrets, which I doubt but may allow for some peripheral legal case). Agriculture isn't a glamorous industry, but at some point the cow that made your burger was killed so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#14
I think they have that all backwards...
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
April 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#15
On April 12 2013 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
but at some point the cow that made your burger was tortured so you could have it. I eat meat and recognize this fact.


fixed it

User was warned for this post
shikata ga nai
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 11 2013 18:59 GMT
#16
How does this even make sense. This world is so crazy.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1989 Posts
April 11 2013 19:00 GMT
#17
That is pretty disgusting.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
April 11 2013 19:04 GMT
#18
Well... "puts hands in air" usually I'd be floored but I've become desensitized to ridiculous laws stemming from Western Europe and North America for the past few years so I kind of feel numb as if it isn't that shocking.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
April 11 2013 19:06 GMT
#19
Lol, I thought this thread would be about making you and your friends taping abusing that stray cat illegal.

Oh boy, was I wrong.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
April 11 2013 19:08 GMT
#20
Well the basis of the law is that these farms are private property so they should be able to control this kind of stuff. I can understand that as long as regulators do there job.
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