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On February 24 2013 19:04 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 15:26 red_ wrote:On February 24 2013 15:00 billy5000 wrote:On February 24 2013 14:46 forsooth wrote:On February 24 2013 14:35 billy5000 wrote:On February 24 2013 14:14 forsooth wrote:On February 24 2013 13:40 IPA wrote:On February 22 2013 03:54 1Dhalism wrote:
Also money and success are a pretty good measure of character. This is one of the more ridiculous things I've read on TL. I would say rather that it's one of the dumbest things I've read anywhere in my entire life. While I agree that's a naive thing to say, money and success can definitely boost your character if used the right way. Your character is what it is regardless of whether or not you have money. What you choose to do with wealth is nothing but a manifestation of what's already inside you. My point was that wealth creates more opportunities for a person to build his character. In other words, it can amplify a person's character more than someone without it. Compare a person who's living paycheck to paycheck and doesn't have the time to really "give back to the community" (or something else along the lines) other than what he can manage at the time, and someone who has enough time to commit his time to wholeheartedly help. The latter is more likely to be noticed as someone of character than the former. You sir, have just made an argument against yourself; that is a good reason why money and success might actually be terrible measures of character. Your definitions are confused. Whether or not money and success imply "good" or "bad" things about a person's character, does not imply they are not useful at measuring character.
If they were useful for measuring character, then you would be able to make a definitive, objective statement about the difference in character of a poor man who gives everything he is capable of in community service and volunteer work vs the rich man who does the same(but in more abundant amount as pointed out in the previous post). There is no difference in their character, they both display great quality as we define it in our society, one simply has more resources(he could have inherited his wealth for the sake of this argument even, so you can't even say his character gave him resources).
Thus, using wealth especially, and to a lesser extent success(because success can be use in an abstract sense and subjectively means something different to different people), is a bad measure of character.
The post I quoted basically says the exact opposite of what you are intimating from it.
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On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm.
What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
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On February 25 2013 04:16 Demonhunter04 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:On February 25 2013 03:01 Recognizable wrote:On February 25 2013 02:33 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 01:10 JieXian wrote:On February 24 2013 23:24 Feartheguru wrote:On February 24 2013 23:16 gedatsu wrote:On February 24 2013 23:09 Twinkle Toes wrote:On February 24 2013 19:01 sunprince wrote:On February 24 2013 17:46 Navane wrote:
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this makes sense.
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that is a circular argument. Men likes x in women so x will be given to the next generation and future men will like the next generation because it has x. X can be anything genetic here.
Correct. The real reason that men are attracted to beautiful women is because beauty implies youh, health, and fertility, all of which increase the likelihood of passing on their genes. No, just too many wrongs on this BS. Let me be a bit more honest and adult here with my reply, so if there are any kids/minors reading this, stay back. We ask why are men or why am I attracted to pretty women? Lets be honest, attracted here means FUCKING her. And if I may be even more honest, it means fucking her in the most animal and primal of ways, doggy, chained, titfuck, facial, cream pie, biting her lips, sucking her strawberry tongue, pink nipples, beating her pussy up til she cant walk for a week, etc etc.. You get what I mean, unless you are in grade school and think of attraction as holding hands and smelling her hair. Genes, fertility, and all those evolutionary bullcrap are secondary and almost unintended side-effects. What? That's really all I can say to that. On February 24 2013 22:35 llIH wrote:
Remember that evolution has more or less stopped by now. The conditions are not as they where before. Uh, no. Evolution carries on in full force. Conditions have never stayed the same. No. It doesn't.... evolution happens by natural selection which to a large extent no longer exists among humans. Just wow. In a thread talking about beautiful women and rich men being more popular and more attractive to the opposite sex you say that natural selection no longer exists? Weaker, sick and handicapped people don't die out as fast but how could you possible be this blind ? l o l . Because unlike in caveman times, ugly and stupid people such as yourself are also able to pass on their genes (unfortunately), not sure why that's hard to understand. l o l. Oh wow. You truly are an idiot. He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with. Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive. Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges. Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Let me explain this in detail. Modern society keeps alive those who would've died quickly in the past, such as the retarded or severely disfigured. But those people reproduce less often on average than those who bear desirable traits such as attractiveness, personality, social status, and wealth. In the ancient past, wealth and status revolved mostly around hunting, but now acquiring wealth and status requires a different skill set, which drives evolution towards increasing those traits in the population. Modern society is our new environment, and the rules of the game have changed. Far fewer people die, but evolution is still definitely happening in terms of sexual selection. Now, the environment favors hard-working but uncreative, cooperative, and socially adept people (coincidentally, women average higher scores than men on all of these traits). This is obviously a simplification, but the point should be clear.
I'm actually not sure if serious. Did you just try to say wealth and social status leads to more reproduction on average? Your point is plenty clear, it's just hilariously bad lol... In case you don't get this, it doesn't take wealth or status or anything for anyone to have a boatload of children, that usually leads to less.
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On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none?
Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago.
Edit: At least it is true here in Spain. I am not refering to third world countries where the rules of natural selection are much more raw and depend a lot less on social statuss and wealth.
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On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago.
What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada.....
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On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada.....
Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from.
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On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from.
This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs.
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On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility. Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. Edit: At least it is true here in Spain. I am not refering to third world countries where the rules of natural selection are much more raw and depend a lot less on social statuss and wealth.
I don't have any raw data to support my viewpoint, but I was under the impression that poorer families generally have more children. Not only that, but that there is a slight correlation between lower IQ's and higher reproduction rates. In other words, assuming that intelligence is somewhat hereditary, we are slowly shifting to a lower average IQ over time.
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On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs.
I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again.
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On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
I think you mean Eugenics.
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On February 25 2013 07:08 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs. I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again.
Ya, 'evolution'(in quotes because we're treating it as some kind of entity, not a concept here) doesn't really know or care about anything other than ability to produce viable offspring. Rich, good looking, successful(in society) people may individually have the best pick of mates, but that hardly means they're the only ones mating, and thus aren't the only ones successful in the eyes of evolution.
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On February 25 2013 07:08 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs. I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again.
When 1/2 of people died before they could reproduce, evolution works quickly (relatively obviously), now almost everyone can reproduce so evolution among humans happens so slowly it's essentially negligible. The current factors that affect reproductive rates like income are not hereditary.
Even if you believe that wealth/personality/social status etc. affects how likely one is to reproduce, for my point to be false, you'd also have to believe that those things are hereditary (as in, through genes)?
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On February 25 2013 07:23 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 07:08 kmillz wrote:On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs. I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again. When 1/2 of people died before they could reproduce, evolution works quickly (relatively obviously), now almost everyone can reproduce so evolution among humans happens so slowly it's essentially negligible. The current factors that affect reproductive rates like income are not hereditary. Even if you believe that wealth/personality/social status etc. affects how likely one is to reproduce, for my point to be false, you'd also have to believe that those things are hereditary?
What are you even talking about? Evolution has always happened slowly. Evolution is by no means "over" it can never so long as species exist be "over".
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On February 25 2013 07:25 Elsid wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 07:23 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 07:08 kmillz wrote:On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:On February 25 2013 04:02 Figgy wrote:
He isn't an idiot. Pretty much any retarded person (literally, not even figuratively) can procreate now when previously they would die much younger or never get the chance to begin with.
Natural selection has disappeared off the face of the planet in first world countries due to modern medicine and the lack of a need to actually develop special skills (especially physically) to survive.
Evolution is Humans is absolutely gone until the next major apocolypse or subspecies we let live ( like that would ever happen) emerges.
Or until someone gets the ability to start procreating with animals. Sick but true.... Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs. I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again. When 1/2 of people died before they could reproduce, evolution works quickly (relatively obviously), now almost everyone can reproduce so evolution among humans happens so slowly it's essentially negligible. The current factors that affect reproductive rates like income are not hereditary. Even if you believe that wealth/personality/social status etc. affects how likely one is to reproduce, for my point to be false, you'd also have to believe that those things are hereditary? What are you even talking about? Evolution has always happened slowly. Evolution is by no means "over" it can never so long as species exist be "over".
Evolution is based upon natural selection. Meaning, people dying before they can effectively reproduce. When the average life expectancy is around 80 years, there is less natural selection, and therefore less evolution.
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On February 25 2013 07:52 rusedeguerre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 07:25 Elsid wrote:On February 25 2013 07:23 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 07:08 kmillz wrote:On February 25 2013 06:58 Feartheguru wrote:On February 25 2013 06:49 rusedeguerre wrote:On February 25 2013 06:42 Impervious wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 Ender985 wrote:On February 25 2013 05:39 FallDownMarigold wrote:On February 25 2013 04:12 Tien wrote:
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Sick but true....
Exceptional children can still be born from 2 below average intellect parents, but its not the norm. What about genetic intervention-mediated evolution? It is becoming a near-future possibility.
Ever noticed how wealthy families have 3-4 kids, where poor families have 1 or none? Yeah. Evolution and natural selection did not just stop because we invented medicine a few centures ago. What? If anything, I've noticed the reverse in Canada..... Yeah, the opposite is the reality actually... not sure where he got this idea from. This is like election time all over again, people imagining themselves in alternate realities to fit their beliefs. I'm not sure exactly where people are getting this evidence that evolution has stopped in humans...this is kind of an absurd claim to me. Evolution doesn't have to mean the trends are always positive, the movie Idiocracy is a pretty good example of this (and I think there is a tiny bit of truth to it). Evolution is a result of change for survivability, when less things are needed to change for survivability we evolve different traits until more changes are needed to survive again. When 1/2 of people died before they could reproduce, evolution works quickly (relatively obviously), now almost everyone can reproduce so evolution among humans happens so slowly it's essentially negligible. The current factors that affect reproductive rates like income are not hereditary. Even if you believe that wealth/personality/social status etc. affects how likely one is to reproduce, for my point to be false, you'd also have to believe that those things are hereditary? What are you even talking about? Evolution has always happened slowly. Evolution is by no means "over" it can never so long as species exist be "over". Evolution is based upon natural selection. Meaning, people dying before they can effectively reproduce. When the average life expectancy is around 80 years, there is less natural selection, and therefore less evolution.
evolution has a timescale so massive the alleged so-called "fact" that we've stopped evolving is like literally the least big thing that's happened to us. inventing things like forged metal and animal husbandry and agriculture so massively overshadow evolutionary changes it's kinda preposterous that anyone is even a tiny itty bit worried about this sooper dooper tiny decrease in the rate of change of human lives
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they are fine if you are just looking for some expensive sex. but if you want a relationship, a person who only is interested in you because of your money is not the kind of person you'd want to have one with, because ultimately you can't because they aren't even interested in you, only your money.
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I often don't understand how someone like J. Howard Marshall II can be brilliant enough to earn billions only to sign it all over to some random blonde instead of his own family.
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If annything this should be a good thing, as its a means of natural selection.
If we keep up this process for the next 1000 years we will end up with an earth full of highly succesfull and rich man, and verry beautifull women.
From this we can conclude, that the natural selection is working in the favour of man (who devellop multiple usefull traits during this path of evolution) while it is not working in the favour of women (who only develop the good looking trait).
In the long run these 2 factors should enforce eachoter.
Beeing rich becomes even more important for males, and beeing good looking becomes even more important for women.
For the feminism movement this is disastrous,in the long run women are digging their own revolutionary grave so to say, by picking the richest man.
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On February 25 2013 09:14 Bub wrote:
I often don't understand how someone like J. Howard Marshall II can be brilliant enough to earn billions only to sign it all over to some random blonde instead of his own family.
What did his family do exactly to deserve it more than she did? It could be that he's just brilliant enough to understand that DNA a fraction of a percent closer to his than the rest of humanity isn't much of an achievement. Whereas she'll have sex with him, something I doubt his family will.
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On February 24 2013 18:01 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 17:47 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On February 24 2013 17:38 kmillz wrote:On February 24 2013 14:57 smokeyhoodoo wrote:On February 24 2013 14:44 kmillz wrote:On February 24 2013 14:37 red_ wrote:On February 24 2013 14:35 billy5000 wrote:On February 24 2013 14:14 forsooth wrote:On February 24 2013 13:40 IPA wrote:On February 22 2013 03:54 1Dhalism wrote:
Also money and success are a pretty good measure of character. This is one of the more ridiculous things I've read on TL. I would say rather that it's one of the dumbest things I've read anywhere in my entire life. While I agree that's a naive thing to say, money and success can definitely boost your character if used the right way. You could literally say the exact statement with ALMOST ANYTHING inserted in place of 'money and success' aside from like rape and murder. It's really not saying a lot. Money and success don't even say anything about character anyway...what you do with your money and your success might however. Not everyone agree's with the Christian interpretation that only altruism reflects positive character. Some people actually experience elation when someone exhibits superior ability. Do you experience elation when you state the obvious? I never said that strictly altruism reflects positive character, only that it might. So how does success not say something positive about someones character? This is honestly blowing my freaking mind here. What exactly is obvious? What I thought was obvious moments ago has been contradicted by you. Perhaps I shouldn't assume what is obvious between us as we are seemingly worlds apart. Concerning your edit. Look up what character means, and determine which definition is being used when us naive folks say success reflects good character. I don't understand why ppl are treating money/success and character as independent variables. passion/drive and persistence are key to being successful. Thus when a woman sees a man with money/success, it can indirectly clue her into his way of life and his drive/desire to be great and not just some average joe. Obviously there are people just born into wealth, and there are those who are strong characters but cannot obtain wealth due to circumstance, however for the vast majority of people I say wealth and character are strongly correlated.
just not true , and in my book successful = not alway make the most money in life , for exemple i got 2 friend for my exemple , one got 150 000 $$ year and the other about 50 % of that . with the way you think the first one got more character and got more passion and drive ?? the first one from a rich family so he got it easy since he was young , he have go to private school and so on , got a bac , but this guy was alway LAZY ( honestly that not like school that hard... )
after that he got a big job because he have study . he was not happy the last time i have talk to him 9 year ago .
my other friend was poor , he stoped school at 16 , for then come back at 20 , did a job in mechanic , then did many website page and many random stuft , he was alway finding good job who make money ( strangely he never did many big studie , but he was alway fine with money , the type of guy who alway got money and live at a high standar but you dont know how ??  , he then started to travel , started to realy love diving , then he have open a dive shop in cancun and he realy happy right now with a girl he love and 1 year he got a litle girl . in my book this guy far more succesful that the first one
he got 3x the character of my other friend ( the first one not realy my friend anymore that why im talking like that )
character and money and completery separate , many people got wrong value in your society
money = just money , prove nothing and mean nothing .
just hope one day people will understand something basic like that .
when in your society get alot or more money that someone who got less mean you are better that someone who got less (
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