EPTI really don't think China would object with overmuch vehemence if North Korea did something really dumb and the U.S and South Korea decided to put an end to this nonsense.
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
I really don't think China would object with overmuch vehemence if North Korea did something really dumb and the U.S and South Korea decided to put an end to this nonsense. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
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Cornstyle
United States147 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
only thing i can think of was "you're indeed correct north korea, only in your dreams" On February 06 2013 03:35 Cornstyle wrote: Anyone know if there was any official US response to the video? Or is it just so laughably bad we're ignoring it completely? they should completely ignore it...its just homeland propaganda. remember, usa = evil, bad things happen to bad people. video showed korea unified, usa in ruins. its a dream sequence of a north korean man going around the earth in north korean space shuttle  | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
On February 06 2013 03:44 jinorazi wrote: that video...lol only thing i can think of was "you're indeed correct north korea, only in your dreams" they should completely ignore it...its just homeland propaganda. remember, usa = evil, bad things happen to bad people. video showed korea unified, usa in ruins. its a dream sequence of a north korean man going around the earth in north korean space shuttle The video ends with the young man concluding that his dream will "surely come true". Is what makes the video more than just "propaganda" that to me, is a direct threat? Is it not? Even if to most people it is laughable, this is the biggest opportunity along with all these missile launch tests, of a chance to go into North Korea and get rid of its dictatorship and save the North Koreans from all their problems of no food or water. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Can anyone confirm if that is footage from COD/MW? Feel like i've seen it before. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On February 06 2013 03:48 Pandemona wrote: Is what makes the video more than just "propaganda" that to me, is a direct threat? Is it not? Even if to most people it is laughable, this is the biggest opportunity along with all these missile launch tests, of a chance to go into North Korea and get rid of its dictatorship and save the North Koreans from all their problems of no food or water. There's a reason it's not as easy as just rushing in and destroying them. It's not even a question as to whether or not we can. But because so much of SK would be destroyed, including seoul, you gotta wonder if it would be worth it? | ||
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KentHenry
United States260 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On February 06 2013 03:48 Pandemona wrote: Is what makes the video more than just "propaganda" that to me, is a direct threat? Is it not? Even if to most people it is laughable, this is the biggest opportunity along with all these missile launch tests, of a chance to go into North Korea and get rid of its dictatorship and save the North Koreans from all their problems of no food or water. i guess depends on how you interpret it, imo it was just a fitting ending sentence for a short film based on a dream. i just see it as another propaganda since stuff like this exists (destroy america) in north korea already. i guess the fault comes from releasing the video during a sensitive time but as for the video it self, i think those who wants to pick a fight will see this as a threat. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:02 BlueRoyaL wrote: There's a reason it's not as easy as just rushing in and destroying them. It's not even a question as to whether or not we can. But because so much of SK would be destroyed, including seoul, you gotta wonder if it would be worth it? I think you are overstating the military capacity of North Korea. The only way they could inflict any serious damage to South Korea is with nuclear weapons. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
I see your point of lots of destruction would lead as the North Korean army isn't exactly small, but im sure it could be done, and the ends would justify the means. Espescially considering the damage one of the nukes could do if it lands/goes off. Not saying that if they launched it right now that American wouldn't quite easily swat it out of the sky somewhere over the Atlantic, BUT if for some reason something failed in the USA defense system and a nuke would land somewhere in America, that devastation would be so huge. The only problem i see is it North Korea launch one of their Nukes at South Korea in a last ditch attempt when they realize they cannot win vs the world. That would be pretty hard to stop as the distance would be to hard to cover. Anyway, all in the early stages of development ^_^ i just don't like the way North Korea keep flexing muscles without being swatted down, and like many people know in this thread who keep involved with North Korea and it's military actions. Is that the Chinese don't even want anything to do with them lately and would not stop any action against them, so when you know China will not get involved you should not have any problem in planning anything. Only thing i would hate, is if any of our beloved Korean gamers had to be drafted into the war  | ||
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:07 KentHenry wrote: I'm just afraid China will step in since North Korea and China are allies. If anything, China will step in to calm or ameliorate any potential for wide-spread conflict. While they may be allies with NK, they have far more vested interest in keeping the region peaceful and open for business. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:08 McBengt wrote: I think you are overstating the military capacity of North Korea. The only way they could inflict any serious damage to South Korea is with nuclear weapons. Are you sure? Don't they have a massive amount of artillery aimed at Seoul, the heart of south korea, at any given moment? From what I've heard, the amount of weapons aimed at seoul is so immense that supposedly it would be decimated in the beginning of any real conflict. Just losing seoul, in itself, would be a huge hit for korea | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:09 Pandemona wrote: Would it be worth it after you look back on it in 20-50years, yes it would. The result of what you would get is a united Korea, and surely a better economy and production rate of the country. I see your point of lots of destruction would lead as the North Korean army isn't exactly small, but im sure it could be done, and the ends would justify the means. Espescially considering the damage one of the nukes could do if it lands/goes off. Not saying that if they launched it right now that American wouldn't quite easily swat it out of the sky somewhere over the Atlantic, BUT if for some reason something failed in the USA defense system and a nuke would land somewhere in America, that devastation would be so huge. The only problem i see is it North Korea launch one of their Nukes at South Korea in a last ditch attempt when they realize they cannot win vs the world. That would be pretty hard to stop as the distance would be to hard to cover. Anyway, all in the early stages of development ^_^ i just don't like the way North Korea keep flexing muscles without being swatted down, and like many people know in this thread who keep involved with North Korea and it's military actions. Is that the Chinese don't even want anything to do with them lately and would not stop any action against them, so when you know China will not get involved you should not have any problem in planning anything. Only thing i would hate, is if any of our beloved Korean gamers had to be drafted into the war i have this feeling that if for some reason north korea launches a nuke at a last ditch attempt, it'll be pointed at japan XD | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6518 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:08 McBengt wrote: I think you are overstating the military capacity of North Korea. The only way they could inflict any serious damage to South Korea is with nuclear weapons. You think the leaders of North Korea would be above launching nukes at the South if any one tries to invade? That is their one and only ace in the hole. They know that unless they actually attack some one the threat of them nuking South Korea will keep other countries at bay. They know they would be fucked if the US actually decided to invade and I'm fairly certain they hold no regard for the possible harm to their citizens of launching nukes that close to home. So I can see the US just ignoring this completely, they won't risk invading until it's absolutely necessary. This laughable video is far from worrying to the US. I'm by no means a political expert so I could be way off here but that's just my thoughts on the situation really | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On February 06 2013 02:16 McBengt wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong here, but there were leaks from China a few years back that strongly indicated that patience in Bejing for North Korean sheninigans is running dry, and there was also an official/semi-official statement that China would support a reunited Korea under Seoul. Many of the younger members of the chinese parliament find North Korea to be a burden and an embarrassment more than an ally at this point. At least that was the gist of it. I really don't think China would object with overmuch vehemence if North Korea did something really dumb and the U.S and South Korea decided to put an end to this nonsense. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/22/china-block-korean-unification-us | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:12 BlueRoyaL wrote: Are you sure? Don't they have a massive amount of artillery aimed at Seoul, the heart of south korea, at any given moment? From what I've heard, the amount of weapons aimed at seoul is so immense that supposedly it would be decimated in the beginning of any real conflict. Just losing seoul, in itself, would be a huge hit for korea I won't say you are wrong, but this does sound a lot like typical North Korea propaganda to me. And one thing to keep in mind, the U.S backed SK army would have complete air dominance, they could wipe out pretty much any installation that isn't buried underground with complete impunity. Pin point strikes could destroy any artillery dugout before anyone knew what was happening. The conventional army of NK is horribly outdated, their nuclear arsenal really is the only plausible option for retaliation. | ||
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On February 06 2013 04:02 BlueRoyaL wrote: There's a reason it's not as easy as just rushing in and destroying them. It's not even a question as to whether or not we can. But because so much of SK would be destroyed, including seoul, you gotta wonder if it would be worth it? It absolutely would not be "worth it" if any civilian lives in SK would have to be sacrificed. There has to be a better way. I would imagine it's very possible with our current technology and training to remove the dictatorship without much harm done. As others have mentioned the only major concern would be if NK launched a nuke at SK out of hate because they know they're going down. But I'm confident we could anticipate that and prevent it. I would seriously consider taking out that dictatorship. It's literally good for nothing. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On January 24 2013 15:04 acker wrote: We give their government food and stuff. Not sure how much of it actually reaches their citizens, even their soldiers are going hungry over there. IMO, best thing we could do is convince China to open up their side of the border to NK migrants instead of, say, deporting them back to North Korea to be shot. Well, nearly 40% of NK's population serves in the military in some respect, so the situation, while dire, is not as bad as that makes it sound. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On February 06 2013 03:52 On_Slaught wrote: That video sure is... interesting. Can anyone confirm if that is footage from COD/MW? Feel like i've seen it before. It is, they ripped it right out of Modern Warfare 3. Basically they made a anti American video with American music, and a scene from a American video game. | ||
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