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On March 30 2013 01:33 Seldentar wrote:
Obama shut down TARS this month. What amazing timing now that NK is threatening CA and TX. And how convenient that NK sent out a satellite a while ago that will arrive above Texas on Sunday. Hmm...

Not only will this closure mean hundreds of people will be out of jobs, but it also means our borders will not be safe, especially along the remote U.S. Mexico Border like in Texas.

On March 30 2013 01:33 Seldentar wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9960933/North-Korea-plan-to-attack-US-mainland-revealed-in-photographs.html

North Korea threatens to nuke DC, LA, or Austin, TX.

Obama shut down TARS this month. What amazing timing now that NK is threatening CA and TX. And how convenient that NK sent out a satellite a while ago that will arrive above Texas on Sunday. Hmm...

Not only will this closure mean hundreds of people will be out of jobs, but it also means our borders will not be safe, especially along the remote U.S. Mexico Border like in Texas.

On March 30 2013 01:58 calgar wrote:
Your post is illogical and factually inaccurate. You realize that experts agree that mainland US is way, way out of NK's range right? Because from your post it doesn't sound like that's the case. Their max range is maybe 2500km. California is 9500 away. The threat is completely empty and all bluster. Why are you vaguely suggesting Texas is in danger? And on another note, what exactly does a drug war balloon have to do with intercepting ICBMs?

While admittedly hard to find anything on the subject, http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2013/03/05/348456 suggests you are wrong and TARS has not been shut down. It looks like you read stuff months ago saying it might be shut down with budget cuts and never followed up with the story. Your canned story about job loss and border insecurity is cute, though. Feel free to link me a more credible source indicating it has, in fact, been shut down.

On March 30 2013 01:58 calgar wrote:
Your post is illogical and factually inaccurate. You realize that experts agree that mainland US is way, way out of NK's range right? Because from your post it doesn't sound like that's the case. Their max range is maybe 2500km. California is 9500 away. The threat is completely empty and all bluster. Why are you vaguely suggesting Texas is in danger? And on another note, what exactly does a drug war balloon have to do with intercepting ICBMs?

While admittedly hard to find anything on the subject, http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2013/03/05/348456 suggests you are wrong and TARS has not been shut down. It looks like you read stuff months ago saying it might be shut down with budget cuts and never followed up with the story. Your canned story about job loss and border insecurity is cute, though. Feel free to link me a more credible source indicating it has, in fact, been shut down.

On March 29 2013 10:51 Taekwon wrote:


He's not crazy. He's smart. A maaaaaajor problem with a lot of cosmopolitan citizens: they lack the perspicacity to look through things from a bigger framework. War isn't about fighting anymore - in fact, winning or hegemony isn't about war anymore.

Trust me, it's not lost on anyone outside of North Korea that they'd get obliterated if they so much as engage in any form of military engagement with the United States. The question is one of proliferation and of regional tensions. The nuclear test just conducted is North Korea's first uranium bomb (though not highly enriched). In other words, they have both capacities to produce Plutonium and Uranium technologies. Progress is now mostly a matter of whether or not they develop cruise and ballistic missiles capable of carrying these weapons (or progressing in making better bombs which is unlikely).

The reason US/EU policy makers are worried about North Korea/Iran getting their hands on nukes isn't because they fear that they'd inanely try and shoot their nukes at New York. They're worried about selling the technology. Dr. AQ did the honors for Pakistan, and USSR gave North Korea hot cells to do plutonium separation. These are easily usable and regimentable technologies. The concern for genuine nuclear terror is also false. However, in what scenario would it be possibly good to have more and more states propagating nuclear weapons left and right? Kim Jong Un, young though as he may be, has all the cards he needs to pretend brinkmanship for a few more years.Unless you're part of the Kenneth Waltz school of nuclear optimism, any test is gawd awful news.

North Korea, while incapable of espousing a nuke to an ICBM, they can easily marry a nuke to a centi-mile missile. In other words, South Korea and Japan are in danger. So what would they think? It becomes a question of US credibility and their nuclear umbrella - something that we clearly will not use. Does that mean we're going to use our tripwire troops in Fukashima and South Korea? Heck no. Thus, South Korea and Japan will push for belligerent policies, relations grow truculent and missile defense becomes questioned policy again. So? China freaks out. And that's never good news for reasons I certainly do NOT need to elaborate on. This scenario is all the more likely especially considering how the Senkaku islands dispute is going. Furthermore, Abe Shinjo is now the new PM of the Japanese diet and he is pretty much as war hawk as you get in Japan. He's pushing for the eradication of Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution. He really isn't helping considering citizens in Japan that support getting rid of A9 is close to 50% now.

On March 30 2013 02:03 Seldentar wrote:


I'm well aware of that. I was being sarcastic towards the doomsayer posts. I highly doubt Texas is at any real risk of being hit by a nuclear device.

There was speculation it would be shut down on March 15, but it never was.

On March 30 2013 02:03 Seldentar wrote:


I'm well aware of that. I was being sarcastic towards the doomsayer posts. I highly doubt Texas is at any real risk of being hit by a nuclear device.

There was speculation it would be shut down on March 15, but it never was.

On March 29 2013 10:51 Taekwon wrote:


He's not crazy. He's smart. A maaaaaajor problem with a lot of cosmopolitan citizens: they lack the perspicacity to look through things from a bigger framework. War isn't about fighting anymore - in fact, winning or hegemony isn't about war anymore.

Trust me, it's not lost on anyone outside of North Korea that they'd get obliterated if they so much as engage in any form of military engagement with the United States. The question is one of proliferation and of regional tensions. The nuclear test just conducted is North Korea's first uranium bomb (though not highly enriched). In other words, they have both capacities to produce Plutonium and Uranium technologies. Progress is now mostly a matter of whether or not they develop cruise and ballistic missiles capable of carrying these weapons (or progressing in making better bombs which is unlikely).

The reason US/EU policy makers are worried about North Korea/Iran getting their hands on nukes isn't because they fear that they'd inanely try and shoot their nukes at New York. They're worried about selling the technology. Dr. AQ did the honors for Pakistan, and USSR gave North Korea hot cells to do plutonium separation. These are easily usable and regimentable technologies. The concern for genuine nuclear terror is also false. However, in what scenario would it be possibly good to have more and more states propagating nuclear weapons left and right? Kim Jong Un, young though as he may be, has all the cards he needs to pretend brinkmanship for a few more years.Unless you're part of the Kenneth Waltz school of nuclear optimism, any test is gawd awful news.

North Korea, while incapable of espousing a nuke to an ICBM, they can easily marry a nuke to a centi-mile missile. In other words, South Korea and Japan are in danger. So what would they think? It becomes a question of US credibility and their nuclear umbrella - something that we clearly will not use. Does that mean we're going to use our tripwire troops in Fukashima and South Korea? Heck no. Thus, South Korea and Japan will push for belligerent policies, relations grow truculent and missile defense becomes questioned policy again. So? China freaks out. And that's never good news for reasons I certainly do NOT need to elaborate on. This scenario is all the more likely especially considering how the Senkaku islands dispute is going. Furthermore, Abe Shinjo is now the new PM of the Japanese diet and he is pretty much as war hawk as you get in Japan. He's pushing for the eradication of Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution. He really isn't helping considering citizens in Japan that support getting rid of A9 is close to 50% now.

On March 30 2013 02:01 Rassy wrote:
Dont understand why the north korean army goes along with the leader in this case.
They have nothing to win and everything to loose,Unification within 10 years should be possible and then everyone high ranked in the north korean army could get a big cheque as a ty from south korea.
They would all be much better of then now, the only person who stands to loose alot is the leader himself.
He can off course also get a big cheque but it will still be a big step back from beeing a dictator owning a whole country to beeing a simple bilionaire.
I somehow expect that if the leader wants to make these attacks happen that the army wont go along with it,hes just a young guy and dont think he has the control his father had.
If war would happen it would be absolutely disastrous,i do believe north korea is capable of hitting the usa. The south koreans are verry smart people and this probably goes for the people in the north as well, despite their country beeing cut off from the world for such a long time.The financial markets seem not to be woried at all though, so maybe this is indeed just a game.

On March 30 2013 05:42 Seldentar wrote:
Does anyone have the piece of the puzzle that explains exactly why the media has been hyping this up so much over this past week?

On March 30 2013 05:47 wei2coolman wrote:

The B-2 bombers from USA doing a fly-by was a HUGE deal.