On December 25 2012 09:59 peekn wrote:
Jesus... This has to stop. How many more innocent people are going to have to die before we start doing something. These random acts are so terrible.

My thoughts with their family's.

Edit: Nvm I just noticed the update to NOT discuss any sort of law.

Thoughts and prayers to the victims, its rough what is going on now a days :/

Aerisky

United States12128 Posts

December 25 2012 07:48 GMT

#123

On December 25 2012 16:34 nttea wrote:

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/159254/latin-americans-positive-world.aspx#1
Sounds like a swell place!

For what it's worth, the stat is for those responding "yes". A lot of Singaporeans ostensibly could be responding with no comments or generally be annoyed by the questions (such is their culture). I think there was an Economist editorial from someone who had lived in Singapore for many years questioning the veracity of the survey. But I don't want to derail too far to Singapore.

This was yet another terrible, terrible tragedy this year, and it's just so shocking that firefighters, of all people, were apparently targeted

man...

fuzzy_panda

New Zealand1681 Posts

December 25 2012 07:52 GMT

#124

Another shooting in America?? Man...my heart goes out to you guys, this has certainly been a rough year for ya

First it's kids, now it's Firefighters...this especially pisses me off coz firefighters, like paramedics, are there on call all the time to save lives and provide a very valuable service.

Manit0u

Poland17187 Posts

December 25 2012 07:56 GMT

#125

Fuck this makes me angry. Shooting at firefighters and paramedics who are trying to do their job is truly wrong and evil.

My deepest condolences to the families.

FallDownMarigold

United States3710 Posts

December 25 2012 08:01 GMT

#126

On December 25 2012 11:14 Vore210 wrote:

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As if that's a reasonable, humanitarian or possible solution.

Let's get real though. The system is already overburdened with costs. Adding additional expenses to cover to personal rehabilitation of every criminal in the US system as they do in, say, Norway, would be unrealistically expensive. Wouldn't it?

I know nothing on this subject really, so maybe it's actually the case that the fancy sort of rehab they advocate for in certain EU countries such as Norway is not actually as fancy as it appears, and actually costs far less to sustain. I'd like to know more about this, if anyone happens to know...

jckwik

United States7 Posts

December 25 2012 08:11 GMT

#127

I also live about 5 minutes from where this happened. I spent the day today dealing with friends and neighbors who knew the victims. One was my age, a year or so out of high school. The other was also a police officer and a very respected member of the community. Both taken well before their time.

I don't want to argue about gun laws (and can't now), because that's not the point of what happened today. What happened today was a tragedy of human lives being needlessly thrown away by a man no longer capable of reasonable human thought. This was not a ploy for attention. The asshole shot himself after he'd done the deed. You don't do something for attention just to kill yourself (not unless you're a terrorist and you're actually delivering a message with it).

Also, I don't think the media blew it out of proportion. In a large country it made top news headlines, yes, and it most likely was not the ABSOLUTE worst thing to happen in America today. However, it needed to be mentioned that 'hey, even people who are trying to protect the public are no longer safe from psychos'. It becomes out of proportion if it's top news for the next week as well. And for us here in Webster, it's going to be news for a while, because we lost two respected members. It's going to take time for the entire town to cope, and while some people may just disregard this story, respect should be paid because it's not just the two brave men who died, but it's also about the family, friends, and community that now has to pick up the pieces.

Thank you for all your kind words in this thread, and thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts on this.

CycoDude

United States326 Posts

December 25 2012 08:15 GMT

#128

what the fuck is wrong with people? also, why is a convicted killer free??

Daumen

Germany1073 Posts

December 25 2012 08:20 GMT

#129

Setting a Trap and killing Firefighters, srsly? Thats a new one, and just fucking disgusting.

darkmetabee

Canada24 Posts

December 25 2012 08:24 GMT

#130

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Speechless.
Murdering those who put their lives on the line everyday.
You betcha they would have risked their life to save you murderer.

Pulselol

Canada1628 Posts

December 25 2012 08:25 GMT

#131

People with murderous intent will murder, regardless of guns.

WolfintheSheep

Canada14127 Posts

December 25 2012 08:31 GMT

#132

On December 25 2012 17:25 Pulselol wrote:
People with murderous intent will murder, regardless of guns.

However, I imagine that four firefighters could stop a man who wasn't wielding a gun. Worst case, he might have killed one and injured another.

simmeh

Canada2511 Posts

December 25 2012 08:52 GMT

#133

its incredibly sad and infuriating that people who are waiting on call solely for the purpose of going out to help and save peoples lives get killed like that

and that fucking terrible murderder coward takes his life

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BigFan

TLADT24920 Posts

December 25 2012 09:57 GMT

#134

Really sad news, my condolences to the family of those who passed away and my prayers for those two firefighters who are currently fighting for their lives in the hospital. Hope that this kind of tragedy never happens again, one can dream

Tommylew

Wales2717 Posts

December 25 2012 10:06 GMT

#135

Disgusting, RIP especially on xmas eve

Kickboxer

Slovenia1308 Posts

December 25 2012 10:27 GMT

#136

Maybe it's time to reconsider the death penalty.

Bludgeon an elderly woman with a hammer, live to see the light of day? Really?

I don't believe in reforming the antisocial and the deranged, I never have and I never will.

Each one of us only gets one chance, and so should they.

Avarail

United Kingdom17 Posts

December 25 2012 10:30 GMT

#137

this is horrible, firefighters save life, they were trying to help and they got a bullet in return

Alejandrisha

United States6565 Posts

December 25 2012 10:34 GMT

#138

this is the fucking saddest thing I've read about in months.. and I read a lot of sad shit :/

iPlaY.NettleS

Australia4315 Posts

December 25 2012 10:42 GMT

#139

On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

It makes a good case for more death penalty enforcements thats for sure.This guy was obviously a nutjob - should have at least been locked up in a mental home.