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Do not discuss gun control, or the right to own/use guns in this thread. Please take any such discussion to this thread or you will be banned.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 19:31:16
December 25 2012 00:55 GMT
#1
Officials in the town of Webster tell local media outlets that someone shot at firefighters around 6 a.m. Monday when they arrived at the scene of the blaze just east of Rochester.

The shooter has been identified as William Spengler, 62, a convicted killer.

The dead are Lt. Mike Chiapperini, 43, a volunteer firefighter and Webster Police Department’s public information officer, and firefighter Tomasz Kaczowka. Theodore Scardino and Joseph Hofstetter were also shot and are recovering in guarded condition at Strong Memorial Hospital.

Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering told reporters that Spengler was found dead outside the home where the shootings occurred, killed by a self-inflicted gunshot. Pickering said Spengler opened fire at the firefighters when they pulled up to a house in the 100 block of Lake Road. One firefighter was able to flee the scene, while the other three were "pinned down at the location." A SWAT team responded, rescued the firefighter who was alive and then engaged the suspect.

Pickering spoke through tears as he described the violent scene, which appeared to be set up on purpose.

"It does appear that [the fire scene] was a trap that was set," Pickering said in a press conference.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/24/firefighters-shot-webster-fire_n_2358822.html?1356359675&icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2&pLid=249480

This is some really fucked up shit... especially on christmas eve.

It will definitely continue to press the gun control debate.


How does a convicted killer gets his hands on a rifle?

EDIT: removed sentence that was being misinterpreted as a pun

EDIT: audio of emergency dispatcher and firefighter


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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 01:04:58
December 25 2012 00:57 GMT
#2
edit: better no puns :o
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 01:03:20
December 25 2012 00:58 GMT
#3
I think it was supposed to be a pun and what have you (in poor taste imho)--should have been "fired upon."

But yeah...I just saw the blurry youtube clip :/ why, oh why
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peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
December 25 2012 00:59 GMT
#4
Jesus... This has to stop. How many more innocent people are going to have to die before we start doing something. These random acts are so terrible.

My thoughts with their family's.
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
December 25 2012 01:01 GMT
#5
Why the hack would someone do this :/ This is even sicker than killing random people... These Firefighters were called up to help this person and he in turn had actually set up a trap to kill them. Bloody hell what a twisted world...
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 25 2012 01:01 GMT
#6
My deepest sympathies to the families of those killed in the line of duty.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
December 25 2012 01:01 GMT
#7
Saw this earlier. Truly fucked up that someone would lure people in to shoot them on Christmas Eve. Let alone firefighters and volunteer firefighters at that. =/
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
December 25 2012 01:04 GMT
#8
people make you sick sometimes
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
December 25 2012 01:04 GMT
#9
Some fucked up shit. Condolences to the families >_<
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 25 2012 01:06 GMT
#10
What the fuck?
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2012 01:08 GMT
#11
Of all people, why the fuck firefighters? They're literally the most guiltless people in the governmental system. Especially volunteer firefighters. What the hell man.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
December 25 2012 01:10 GMT
#12
Mad fucking world.
kukarachaa
Profile Joined February 2011
United States284 Posts
December 25 2012 01:11 GMT
#13
There is gotta be more to this story, I find it extremely hard to believe someone would do that, just for the hell of it without any motive.
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
December 25 2012 01:12 GMT
#14
that's truly awful what the hell would be the reason for something like that anyway.
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CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
December 25 2012 01:12 GMT
#15
Simply awful, poor people and their families
Chill Winston......
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
December 25 2012 01:15 GMT
#16
Wow, how could you do that to random firefighters of all people

And then just kill yourself afterward. How pathetic.

RIP
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nortac
Profile Joined April 2011
United States375 Posts
December 25 2012 01:16 GMT
#17
So much fucking bad news lately, what the hell is wrong with people...
My condolences to the families, may they rest in peace.
Gunther
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 01:18:23
December 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#18
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 25 2012 01:19 GMT
#19
You know it's a sad time when it's Christmas and you're sitting at home thinking to yourself and judging what's a worse case of evil - luring firefighters who save lives and killing them on active duty, or indiscriminately murdering young children and their caretakers.

What's next?
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Those firefighters had NO right trespassing on that man's property. He was repelling an obvious invasion and succeeded in deterring what was obviously a plan against him by the tyrannical government that convicted him of murder. He valiantly suppressed the insurrection that involved having his house set on ablaze, and the firefighters that were deceptively going to put out the conflagration on his own home but were obviously sent as part of an opposition militia learned a valuable lesson on Christmas Eve. He was facilitating his right to self-defense, he stood up to his rights to participate in law enforcement.
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
December 25 2012 01:19 GMT
#20
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.
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