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G_G
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada178 Posts
December 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#21
On December 25 2012 10:01 Sableyeah wrote:
Why the hack would someone do this :/ This is even sicker than killing random people... These Firefighters were called up to help this person and he in turn had actually set up a trap to kill them. Bloody hell what a twisted world...


On December 25 2012 10:11 kukarachaa wrote:
There is gotta be more to this story, I find it extremely hard to believe someone would do that, just for the hell of it without any motive.


On December 25 2012 10:12 dNa wrote:
that's truly awful what the hell would be the reason for something like that anyway.


On December 25 2012 10:15 Grobyc wrote:
Wow, how could you do that to random firefighters of all people

And then just kill yourself afterward. How pathetic.

RIP


Well, if Adam Lanza had killed random adults, he would have been lumped together in the news with previous mass shooters. Many people wouldn't have even followed the news much because they're "used" to it by now.

The most insane part of all this is that they may not have randomly decided on kids or fire fighters, they may have done it very intentionally knowing the news would cover them more than they would otherwise. Yes, killing kids and firefighters is sicker than killing random people, and getting even more coverage on the news may be the motive behind it.

There may even be numerous ill minded murderous attention seeking freaks watching the news coverage right now, getting ideas directly from it. Oh but.. it's video games that are giving people murderous ideas, not the news that continuously proves to these sick people that mass murder works. I forgot.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
December 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#22
I thought the firemen was shooting at the fire.. Horrible that was not the case. RIP
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#23


Mad world we're living in man....
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#24
this is one of the most fucked up things i've heard in a long time...
can i get my estro logo back pls
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#25
On December 25 2012 10:24 aRyuujin wrote:
this is one of the most fucked up things i've heard in a long time...


You didn't hear about the Sandy Hook shooting?
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 25 2012 01:37 GMT
#26
On December 25 2012 10:19 Xpace wrote:
What's next?
+ Show Spoiler +
Those firefighters had NO right trespassing on that man's property. He was repelling an obvious invasion and succeeded in deterring what was obviously a plan against him by the tyrannical government that convicted him of murder. He valiantly suppressed the insurrection that involved having his house set on ablaze, and the firefighters that were deceptively going to put out the conflagration on his own home but were obviously sent as part of an opposition militia learned a valuable lesson on Christmas Eve. He was facilitating his right to self-defense, he stood up to his rights to participate in law enforcement.


what?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44355 Posts
December 25 2012 01:38 GMT
#27
Volunteer firefighters shot in the line of duty on Christmas eve. How horrible.
My condolences to their families.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
December 25 2012 01:40 GMT
#28
Here's a tip for everyone:

Turn off your TV on christmas. Don't watch the news. Don't visit the Huffington post or any other news site. There is always a tragedy being peddled. At least for one day, don't give in to the grief porn.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
kolofome
Profile Joined December 2010
United States96 Posts
December 25 2012 01:48 GMT
#29
Man, the CIA is really trying to force gun laws faster.

User was warned for this post
battlefield 3 is pretty damn fun
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
December 25 2012 01:48 GMT
#30
God damn, that's really disturbing. Jesus Christ, setting a fire to lure in firefighters? That's insane!
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
December 25 2012 01:50 GMT
#31
On December 25 2012 10:15 Grobyc wrote:
Wow, how could you do that to random firefighters of all people

And then just kill yourself afterward. How pathetic.

RIP


Imo these people would shoot themselves anyway.
They just need to take someone with them.
Then again I could easily be wrong, but whatever.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Vore210
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland256 Posts
December 25 2012 01:51 GMT
#32
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.


The real question is why wasn't he properly rehabilitated. When 60-74% of your incarcerated criminals re-offend within 3 years, you know your "lock em up to sort em out" mentality is not working.

And yet no doubt lots of people will call for stricter sentencing. I really despair of Average Joe sometimes.
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
Parlortricks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 02:06:56
December 25 2012 01:53 GMT
#33
There is a lot involved in this tragedy it seems. Hopefully the two being treated in the hospital will survive minimizing the impact. In addition, the suspect's sister is also missing and it is feared she may be among one of the seven houses that were set alight.

I'm curious as to whether or not this shooting was mimicking the Sandy Hook incident and if so what that has to say about the media encouraging this type of malicious behavior in troubled people.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 01:57:34
December 25 2012 01:57 GMT
#34
Here's the problem.

Do we ignore the shooting because that's the only way we can stop these publicity stunts?
Or do we mourn the shootings even more because of how you can possibly shoot a firefighter. Jesus.

Something needs to change. Fast. Please.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Gunther
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany139 Posts
December 25 2012 01:58 GMT
#35
On December 25 2012 10:51 Vore210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.


The real question is why wasn't he properly rehabilitated. When 60-74% of your incarcerated criminals re-offend within 3 years, you know your "lock em up to sort em out" mentality is not working.

And yet no doubt lots of people will call for stricter sentencing. I really despair of Average Joe sometimes.

Putting them away for life would be 100% effective in stopping them from committing another murder too.
Charwhal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
December 25 2012 02:00 GMT
#36
Once again, I believe we can attribute the causes of this shooting to violent video games.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 25 2012 02:01 GMT
#37
On December 25 2012 10:37 musai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:19 Xpace wrote:
What's next?
+ Show Spoiler +
Those firefighters had NO right trespassing on that man's property. He was repelling an obvious invasion and succeeded in deterring what was obviously a plan against him by the tyrannical government that convicted him of murder. He valiantly suppressed the insurrection that involved having his house set on ablaze, and the firefighters that were deceptively going to put out the conflagration on his own home but were obviously sent as part of an opposition militia learned a valuable lesson on Christmas Eve. He was facilitating his right to self-defense, he stood up to his rights to participate in law enforcement.


what?


That was sarcasm in a spoiler. You didn't quote how I really feel about the situation.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44355 Posts
December 25 2012 02:02 GMT
#38
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

Because the majority of convicted killers don't murder firefighters on Christmas eve. It's an anomaly.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
December 25 2012 02:03 GMT
#39
Did he play violent video games too? What will the media blame for this one?
For the swarm
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#40
On December 25 2012 11:02 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

Because the majority of convicted killers don't murder firefighters on Christmas eve. It's an anomaly.


But they do have a tendency to repeat their crimes. Am I wrong in saying that? One could say that this particular criminal picked unusual targets and committed the crime at an unusual time..
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