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Do not discuss gun control, or the right to own/use guns in this thread. Please take any such discussion to this thread or you will be banned.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
December 25 2012 05:21 GMT
#101
deepest sympathies. what the hell is wrong with US.
They need better education and less guns.

User was temp banned for this post.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
aaMikeD
Profile Joined February 2009
United States140 Posts
December 25 2012 05:24 GMT
#102
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


The issue is that the wrong people are filling up the system. We are flooded with drug offenders because of the failed drug war, and then it makes financial strains so high that violent criminals are released too often. If we were to reserve our system for only violent offenders and find other forms of rehabilitation and education for others we would be in much better shape.
talontromper
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States258 Posts
December 25 2012 05:26 GMT
#103
Wow, what is the world coming to, who would do something like this.
"It was a glorious day for fools when modesty became a virtue. There is a difference between cockiness and confidence. Confidence allows for greatness in others."
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
December 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#104
This is so crazy and hits right at home, live < 30 min away O.o... Why would someone ever do that ?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 25 2012 05:41 GMT
#105
I dont understand why this does not make sense to people. As long as the media keeps releasing names and making killers infamous, the things they do will keep getting more strange and sicker to attract the attention of the media. You think killing children and then firefighters on christmas eve is bad, well somebody out there is already planning to one up them so he can go out in the spotlight.

Our culture really needs to change....and fast. But thats not likely...
I come in for the scraps
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#106
"How does a killer get his hands on an automatic weapon?" OP? How does a 14 year old get his hands on weed.

Looks like the shooter was a pussy, taking his own life, saves us the trouble of doing it however. One less fuckhead in the world.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 06:21:53
December 25 2012 05:51 GMT
#107
these people are so digusting why do they have to do this on christmas eve t.t
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
December 25 2012 05:54 GMT
#108
I don't want to live on this planet anymore. My heart goes out to the families that has lost their love ones.
Apink/Girl's Day/miss A/IU/Crayon Pop/Sistar/Exo K :D l Kpop and Kdrama Enthusiast
paradox719
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States30 Posts
December 25 2012 06:10 GMT
#109
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


We should start executing them.

Seems to work for Singapore.
"There is little that can withstand a man who can conquer himself" - Louis XIV
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 06:12:53
December 25 2012 06:12 GMT
#110
On December 25 2012 15:10 paradox719 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


We should start executing them.

Seems to work for Singapore.


no desire to ever live there, I would rather not live in the United States if it became like singapore.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
December 25 2012 06:13 GMT
#111
I don't know if people are born this way or if they become that way, but this is beyond fucked up.
im deaf
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 06:14:02
December 25 2012 06:13 GMT
#112
Why during the holiday season of all times?
Hope the victims are okay...
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#113
On December 25 2012 15:13 imBLIND wrote:
I don't know if people are born this way or if they become that way, but this is beyond fucked up.


Become this way for sure, it has to do with culture more than anything. Just so were clear im not saying that this couldn't happen anywhere in the world, just that certain cultures will make it occur more often.
I come in for the scraps
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#114
On December 25 2012 15:12 dreamsmasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 15:10 paradox719 wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


We should start executing them.

Seems to work for Singapore.


no desire to ever live there, I would rather not live in the United States if it became like singapore.


-_- have you been to Singapore, it's a great country / city, clean streets, nice food, nice weather, fine security, good standard of living.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
December 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#115
This is just sick. There seriously needs to be a petition started to stop the media from releasing murderer's names. As many others have already stated, there are just sick people out there wanting to get some attention even if it means killing themselves in the end.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
December 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#116
On December 25 2012 15:10 paradox719 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


We should start executing them.

Seems to work for Singapore.


Can we just stop responding to these events in such a simplistic manner? The events that lead to this event, high incarceration, etc. are complex. Saying things like ban all guns or execute them all just get us nowhere and have probably even contributed to the current condition. Complex problems deserve complex thought, and it would do us good to have some introspection about what are the causes of this behavior and how to limit it.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 25 2012 06:33 GMT
#117
The media need to stop covering these stories - this is the very thing that's encouraging people to keep doing this. Unfortunately the news companies are just after higher ratings/views/hits. The only thing we can really do is to stop linking these stories.
fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
December 25 2012 06:37 GMT
#118
My condolences to the victims and families. I would like to know what steps could be taken to reduce these crimes aside from gun control.
Kong fan... <3 Stork <3 Jangbi <3 Yellow <3 Fantasy
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
December 25 2012 06:39 GMT
#119
On December 25 2012 15:19 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 15:10 paradox719 wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:19 Tarot wrote:
On December 25 2012 10:17 Gunther wrote:
I think the better question is why a convicted killer is released from prison.

You guys already have the highest incarceration rate in the world (by far). I think it's a bit past just keeping criminals in prisons longer.


We should start executing them.

Seems to work for Singapore.


Can we just stop responding to these events in such a simplistic manner? The events that lead to this event, high incarceration, etc. are complex. Saying things like ban all guns or execute them all just get us nowhere and have probably even contributed to the current condition. Complex problems deserve complex thought, and it would do us good to have some introspection about what are the causes of this behavior and how to limit it.


It's actually not _that_ complex. These shooters aren't the typical death row inmate that suffered from a horrible childhood and was abandoned by society. That's a completely separate topic of discussion and is obviously the "real" problem in terms of total cost to society. The kinds of shootings publicized in the news are executed by, for the lack of a better word, "crazy" people. They're the outliers and frankly they're being encouraged by the media to act on their delusion.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-25 07:16:30
December 25 2012 07:15 GMT
#120
Honest question:

How can there be a thread with any real discussion involving a felon shooting a bunch of firefighters and not allow folks to talk about guns? I understand that people get pissy about it one way or another, but otherwise it's just 'well gosh that sucks' without really talking about anything useful.

I don't read General as often as I'd like, but do these threads just go full retard each an every time without accomplishing anything? I guess that'd make sense.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
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