EPTI've been called shy or whatever bogus all my life and it has nothing to do with introversion vs extroversion. It is simply people give you shit about anything unless you tell them to back off. This is a scam I wouldn't be surprised if people started writing books on this soon or whatever else they do to get money
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
I've been called shy or whatever bogus all my life and it has nothing to do with introversion vs extroversion. It is simply people give you shit about anything unless you tell them to back off. This is a scam I wouldn't be surprised if people started writing books on this soon or whatever else they do to get money | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On December 21 2012 09:54 puppykiller wrote: I think a lot of intimidated or shy people tend to claim introversion to justify their anti-social activity. I know that I and many people I know used to or currently do this. You say that like "anti-social activity" is necessarily a bad thing. I like going out and doing social things from time to time. However, there always comes a point where I need to be by myself or I'll become irritable. It varies in duration from time to time, but the point of introversion is that you "emotionally recharge" when alone, not that you are social misfit. I can understand how the two can be confused, but they are not the same thing. Understanding your own needs as an introvert can improve your life. It prevents you from burning yourself out and lets you develop the skills you naturally lack. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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Exigaet
Canada355 Posts
Pre-puberty, most of my time would be spent interacting with friends or trying out for school teams. I was also much more talkative in a group setting than I am now. Post-puberty, I couldn't wait until school was over and would hang out with friends, (not talking, just listening and observing, everyone would try to get me to talk but I just wasn't interested) until the earliest bus came and I could go home. | ||
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mumming
Faroe Islands256 Posts
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 21 2012 09:55 Barrin wrote: Honestly, fuck you for implying introversion is a bad thing. You'll be free when you can accept who you are - you kinda sound like someone who hasn't. Is this a subtle put-down attempt? Why would you say this? | ||
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SiegeFlank
United States410 Posts
That said, I do get energy from anything that forces me to use my problem solving skills. So even if I'm tired, I don't have as much of a problem hanging out with people if I know that we're going to be playing a game of some kind together. Games are just a great social activity for everyone involved. Here's another video about INTJs and being extroverted that I really like: This guy also just has a lot of good videos about the different personality types in general. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
I am a person who spends several hours of isolated time per day to work on my writing skills. I generally do not look forward to making friends unless they are trustworthy people who are deeply driven to succeed. Conversations with useless words annoy me. Reading philosophy books in the comfort of solitude is one of the most enjoyable activities in the world. However I enjoy working out by going outside. Talking to strangers is a great pleasure; popping off can be even better. The exhilaration of a physical fight is one of the most subtle pleasures in the world. The "dichotomy" between extroversion and introversion only exists if you accept its existence. Many of the traits associated with one cross over into the other and can be extremely beneficial. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
I would say that the introvert's answer to extroverted charisma and social skill is what might be called 'force of will', the sort of thing you see in someone that tells you this person is both a) not to be fucked with and b) is worth not fucking with because they have their head screwed on straight. Introverts who aren't ashamed of what they feel and represent have incredible raw charisma in their sheer self confidence. I've always seen these people as role models and they've helped me shape myself into my current psychological state. You can be an introvert and still a leader. You simply lead by example, not rhetoric. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:05 Mstring wrote: Is this a subtle put-down attempt? Why would you say this? Why would we want to be free of the labels? The whole introvert vs extrovert dichotomy is just a recognition that most people fairly neatly divides into one class or the other, and further it is the idea that perhaps the groups need to be taught about each other and how to interact because there is a lack of understanding between the groups. You can compare it to the realization that there are boys and girls (or straight and gay people if you want something less physical), and it helps children to get some idea how to interact with the other group. As the OP explains many people have experienced that introvert tendencies as you grow up are treated with an attempt to "cure" them and make you more extrovert. Your post makes it sound like you have the same approach. It is similar to someone coming out of the closet as gay and they are told "don't worry it's just a phase" or "you just haven't met the man/woman (of opposite gender)". You may of course just have meant that there is no need for the distinction, but many people find it helpful because a large group of people are very hard to understand without a little guidance. Furthermore people need different advice depending on their personality. How do you socialize, how do you lead, how do you make friends? The answers may depend on how you are most comfortable engaging other people. EDIT: Obviously no one is suggesting this is a completely binary relationship. You are of course some mixture of both introverted and extroverted. It is also clear that different situations call for different skills so you need to act introverted or extroverted on occassion to be succssfull. You shouldn't treat this as a terminal diagnosis or anything like that, just as a way to further understand yourself and other people. This includes understanding how others are successfull at some things you consider almost impossible and where you can push your boundaries. | ||
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:11 Barrin wrote: "If you think "I'm an introvert", so you will remain." This right here is implying that being an introvert is undesirable. The only reason to say something like this is like a warning. To a reasonable person it's hard to see this line any other way. I think that a reasonable person seeks clarification before jumping down someone's throat with a "fuck you". If you assume the worst all the time, you'll always get the worst. You're right, it was a warning... against identifying with labels, not against being "introverted", which you cannot "be", only be labelled as such. "Drop the labels and you're free." This does a better job of conveying what you actually mean, but even still it almost seems to imply that being an introvert takes away your freedom (you really mean just believing it does). I am saying that identifying with such labels will lead to less freedom. I have no judgements to share on anyone's personality or "type". If you want evidence for my claim, start testing it in your life today. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
I've taken the myers-briggs test a while ago and I remember getting an INTJ as the result. My professor told me to then research/look at this book because it provides career options for the various types of personalities possible: http://www.amazon.com/Do-What-You-Are-Personality/dp/0316167266 It's a really good book and provides some psychological explanation for how people with different personalities react and whatnot, i look at it every now and then. I currently have it under my TeamLiquid Mousepad for arm support, lol. | ||
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:17 rasnj wrote: Why would we want to be free of the labels? The whole introvert vs extrovert dichotomy is just a recognition that most people fairly neatly divides into one class or the other, and further it is the idea that perhaps the groups need to be taught about each other and how to interact because there is a lack of understanding between the groups. You can compare it to the realization that there are boys and girls (or straight and gay people if you want something less physical), and it helps children to get some idea how to interact with the other group. As the OP explains many people have experienced that introvert tendencies as you grow up are treated with an attempt to "cure" them and make you more extrovert. Your post makes it sound like you have the same approach. It is similar to someone coming out of the closet as gay and they are told "don't worry it's just a phase" or "you just haven't met the man/woman (of opposite gender)". You may of course just have meant that there is no need for the distinction, but many people find it helpful because a large group of people are very hard to understand without a little guidance. Furthermore people need different advice depending on their personality. How do you socialize, how do you lead, how do you make friends? The answers may depend on how you are most comfortable engaging other people. EDIT: Obviously no one is suggesting this is a completely binary relationship. You are of course some mixture of both introverted and extroverted. It is also clear that different situations call for different skills so you need to act introverted or extroverted on occassion to be succssfull. You shouldn't treat this as a terminal diagnosis or anything like that, just as a way to further understand yourself and other people. This includes understanding how others are successfull at some things you consider almost impossible and where you can push your boundaries. I'm not trying to cure anyone from anything except using labels which can only serve to divide. What you "are" is subject to change at any second. Why would I want to limit my growth of self by attaching all these rigid identities to "I"? How you lead, socialise and make friends is all personal preference in the end. What value does these two identities have in this regard? | ||
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ailouros
United States193 Posts
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Mstring
Australia510 Posts
On December 21 2012 10:26 Barrin wrote: I wasn't trying to be subtle, I'm trying to free myself from that constraint of my introversion (made possibly by my understanding and accepting of it). I said it because my strong intuition tells me I should believe it, though I don't really have any evidence to back it up. Would you like to prove me wrong? How much do you know about yourself, lets hear? You're not uncomfortable with your introversion (if you are), after all, right? What I meant was, how can you justify trying to make me feel bad? Where is the value in such a statement? I have no interest in proving anyone right or wrong. I don't identify as an introvert or an extrovert. What about me would you like to know? | ||
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