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On December 20 2012 05:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:close pls User was warned for this postbut i said said pls  , god damit fu TL mods!!! grrrr....!!! gosugamers was better than u, TL is nothing(super serious face) + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/RJ.png) User was killed for this post
lol i can't tell if the spoiler is from him or the mods. hahaha.
on topic, i really can't think of anything that makes me thirst for blood more than a 1v1 quick match.
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People use guns to kill other people. Marines also have guns. Makes sense.
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On December 20 2012 09:27 Darkhoarse wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/12/video-game-chart-no-trendline.jpg) This picture is a pretty good demonstration of why the argument that violent video games is the cause is ridiculous.
did you get the data and run a t-test failing to reject the null hypothesis that the slope is 0? you can't just look at a picture lol.
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On December 20 2012 08:25 sc2superfan101 wrote:
games like SC and CoD, I don't think should be regulated. games like GTA should be straight up banned.
Yeah u are correct, we should ask for freedom with it suits us and take it away from everybody else.
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I wonder how many shootings are caused by people who watch TV, or bathe at least once a week. I would like an 18 month study on that as well.
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The formula for these 'moral critics' is to take all the behaviors the perpetrator engaged in, and then subtract any behavior they themselves engage in, and the remaining behaviors are destroying the fabric of society.
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You know, if the Bible (especially OId Testament) were made into a video game, it would one of the most violent and bloodiest games available-- I wonder what these politicans would think if their kids were playing that instead of Call of Duty. They'd probably be fine with it because their whole anti-gaming argument is based on hypocritical and close-minded hogwash.
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On December 20 2012 09:42 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 09:27 Darkhoarse wrote:This picture is a pretty good demonstration of why the argument that violent video games is the cause is ridiculous. did you get the data and run a t-test failing to reject the null hypothesis that the slope is 0? you can't just look at a picture lol.
LOLOL i just learned this shit in my research methods class 
OT: what the fuck, even if nothing comes out of this the fact that 'starcraft' is even mentioned will hurt the growth of e-sports :[
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Stupid people are stupid.
This pisses me off. Ive played FPS games for 6 years and Starcraft for nearly 2 years. Video games are my hobby and eSports is more important than real sports to me. To be honest, I think about video games and play more than is healthy and Ive never even had a speeding ticket, let alone even think of murdering someone.
I hate the media and I hope this guy never gets reelected.
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If anything the games discourage violence imo...
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Video games, guns
More scapegoating the real issue here. Mental healthcare.
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On December 20 2012 09:44 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 08:25 sc2superfan101 wrote:
games like SC and CoD, I don't think should be regulated. games like GTA should be straight up banned. Yeah u are correct, we should ask for freedom with it suits us and take it away from everybody else.
we limit freedoms all the time, and in my personal opinion GTA is a horrible game with a horrible premise that doesn't deserve the protection of free speech. you can argue the slippery slope, and I'll even say that in this instance it is valid, but at the same time, I don't think we have to go down the slippery slope.
CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior.
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Poll: Who is killing esports more?Jay Rockefeller (21) 58% Jessica (15) 42% 36 total votes Your vote: Who is killing esports more? (Vote): Jay Rockefeller
(Vote): Jessica
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On December 20 2012 05:23 farvacola wrote:
Well, if the study is carried out correctly, I don't think we have anything to worry about. This is just Jay Rockefeller trying to score some cheap political points.
I would actually be interested in what a properly carried out (and directed) study would show about video games and our brains in general. 18 months though....far as I remember that is a bit short to be anywhere near conclusive.
Regardless, this is just more rabble-rousing from the bully pulpit. Starcraft or any other video game isn't to blame. People are.
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On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 09:44 GoTuNk! wrote:On December 20 2012 08:25 sc2superfan101 wrote:
games like SC and CoD, I don't think should be regulated. games like GTA should be straight up banned. Yeah u are correct, we should ask for freedom with it suits us and take it away from everybody else. we limit freedoms all the time, and in my personal opinion GTA is a horrible game with a horrible premise that doesn't deserve the protection of free speech. you can argue the slippery slope, and I'll even say that in this instance it is valid, but at the same time, I don't think we have to go down the slippery slope. CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior.
Does the distinction between consequential and random violence in video games have any credible science behind a discussion of its influence? Because your going to have an immensely difficult time disproving the notion that games like GTA and others actually help and provide an outlet for individuals who would otherwise resort to real world expressions of their misanthropy.
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On December 20 2012 10:25 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On December 20 2012 09:44 GoTuNk! wrote:On December 20 2012 08:25 sc2superfan101 wrote:
games like SC and CoD, I don't think should be regulated. games like GTA should be straight up banned. Yeah u are correct, we should ask for freedom with it suits us and take it away from everybody else. we limit freedoms all the time, and in my personal opinion GTA is a horrible game with a horrible premise that doesn't deserve the protection of free speech. you can argue the slippery slope, and I'll even say that in this instance it is valid, but at the same time, I don't think we have to go down the slippery slope. CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior. Does the distinction between consequential and random violence in video games have any credible science behind a discussion of its influence? Because your going to have an immensely difficult time disproving the notion that games like GTA and others actually help and provide an outlet for individuals who would otherwise resort to real world expressions of their misanthropy.
I would have only as difficult (and perhaps less) a time as you would have trying to provide support for the notion that acting out a violent fantasy in the virtual world in some way prevents violent behavior in the real world.
I would like to see a comprehensive study on the effect of violence and depravity in our media on our brains and behaviors.
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On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:
CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior.
Hey man, larvae are innocent too.
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On December 20 2012 10:30 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:
CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior. Hey man, larvae are innocent too.
Incorrect. Larvae are spawned with original sin.
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On December 20 2012 05:52 Harrad wrote:
this is so dumb i don't even know what to say
I'm with you on that, what in the actual fuck I thought the 90's were over.
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On December 20 2012 10:29 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 10:25 farvacola wrote:On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote:On December 20 2012 09:44 GoTuNk! wrote:On December 20 2012 08:25 sc2superfan101 wrote:
games like SC and CoD, I don't think should be regulated. games like GTA should be straight up banned. Yeah u are correct, we should ask for freedom with it suits us and take it away from everybody else. we limit freedoms all the time, and in my personal opinion GTA is a horrible game with a horrible premise that doesn't deserve the protection of free speech. you can argue the slippery slope, and I'll even say that in this instance it is valid, but at the same time, I don't think we have to go down the slippery slope. CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior. Does the distinction between consequential and random violence in video games have any credible science behind a discussion of its influence? Because your going to have an immensely difficult time disproving the notion that games like GTA and others actually help and provide an outlet for individuals who would otherwise resort to real world expressions of their misanthropy. I would have only as difficult (and perhaps less) a time as you would have trying to provide support for the notion that acting out a violent fantasy in the virtual world in some way prevents violent behavior in the real world. I would like to see a comprehensive study on the effect of violence and depravity in our media on our brains and behaviors.
Well yeah, that's precisely my point. At this point, we really cannot qualify the influence of video games on human behavior with any degree of specificity, issues like the chicken or the egg problem come to mind immediately. I definitely think we need to research and seek to better understand the psychological effects of video games, but our understanding at this moment makes legislation or any "line in the sand" so to speak on the topic seem incredibly suspect. So yeah, we more or less agree.
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