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On December 20 2012 10:34 Fake)Plants wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 05:52 Harrad wrote: this is so dumb i don't even know what to say I'm with you on that, what in the actual fuck I thought the 90's were over. well we did just have another duke nukem released in the last 2 years...there's probably a causal relationship there somewhere.
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Video games = easy target for politicians trying to get easy points with voters. Makes it seem like they want to solve a 'problem' (recent school shootings). Video games just happen to be something a lot of older people discriminate against, so pinpointing it as a cause makes sense for them.
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On December 20 2012 10:30 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 10:18 sc2superfan101 wrote: CoD and SC have violence, yes, but the violence is consequential, not random. in CoD you are a soldier in battle, in SC you control soldiers in battle. in GTA you are a criminal thug and the whole point of the game is to kill innocent people and cops and engage in other sickening behavior. Hey man, larvae are innocent too.
Next thing you know cancelling larvae is equivalent to abortion... but I digress.
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Only in the united states.
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On December 20 2012 10:57 RMonkeyF wrote: Only in the united states. except for all those countries with even less freedom of speech, and all those countries that totally censor video games and in some cases ban them...
I hope you were being satirical.
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On December 20 2012 05:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:close pls User was warned for this postbut i said said pls  , god damit fu TL mods!!! grrrr....!!! gosugamers was better than u, TL is nothing(super serious face) + Show Spoiler + User was killed for this post
Balls of Diamond buddy, Balls of diamond.
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The 'solution' is always tyranny. Take away more of our autonomy and freedom - politicians....perhaps their power should be stricken from them entirely. I can't stand demagogues. Always using a particular situation to further their agenda's and power. Grab their guns they say. Disarm them they say. Take away their video games they say. Here, indulge in some psychotropic drugs that the FDA shits out over and over. Take away your vitamins and other natural cures. Bunch of Fascist pigs the lot of them. I'll pass on what they're selling.
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On December 20 2012 11:02 Wegandi wrote: The 'solution' is always tyranny. Take away more of our autonomy and freedom - politicians....perhaps their power should be stricken from them entirely. I can't stand demagogues. Always using a particular situation to further their agenda's and power. Grab their guns they say. Disarm them they say. Take away their video games they say. Here, indulge in some psychotropic drugs that the FDA shits out over and over. Take away your vitamins and other natural cures. Bunch of Fascist pigs the lot of them. I'll pass on what they're selling. The FDA never handed me any psychotropic drugs
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I think there needs to be more defined ratings. I remember trying to buy Fable and it was rated M for Sex/Violence/Drug use. Meanwhile GTA has the exact same rating and the same reasons Sex/Violence/Drugs. I think there needs to be a step between Teen/Mature.
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I play minecraft - LET'S RAPE MOTHER NATURE FOR RESOURCES! YEAH!
Next four years will be fun to watch all of the reactions people have in response to the government they elected.
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It certainly will help to restrict access to guns violent video games!
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On December 20 2012 11:04 tokicheese wrote: I think there needs to be more defined ratings. I remember trying to buy Fable and it was rated M for Sex/Violence/Drug use. Meanwhile GTA has the exact same rating and the same reasons Sex/Violence/Drugs. I think there needs to be a step between Teen/Mature.
Fable has sex and drugs in it? Why on gods earth is Fable in the same category as GTA where the whole purpose is to kill cops and do criminal activities for your gang lol.
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Someone should do a study on whether games keep young people out of trouble by giving them something to do during their free time. I wasn't allowed to have video games until I was 16. The amount of stupid shit I did with friends prior to having video games was insurmountable compared to what I did after I had access to them.
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I play Q3A since I am 8 years old I like to think that I turned out pretty well :/
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On December 20 2012 11:22 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 11:04 tokicheese wrote: I think there needs to be more defined ratings. I remember trying to buy Fable and it was rated M for Sex/Violence/Drug use. Meanwhile GTA has the exact same rating and the same reasons Sex/Violence/Drugs. I think there needs to be a step between Teen/Mature.
Fable has sex and drugs in it? Why on gods earth is Fable in the same category as GTA where the whole purpose is to kill cops and do criminal activities for your gang lol.
You can massacre entire towns in Fable. It's the easiest (only?) way to buy up all the property.
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On December 20 2012 05:29 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Gee, we played starcraft. Anyone feel like going on a murdering rampage? Instead of scrutinizing gun laws which is the most blatant issue, we're looking at video games which has been the subject of witch hunts for about a century now?
No murder, but I really wouldn't be sad if whoever started this idiotic trend of blaming video games and entertainment for behavior died a few times more than the average. Personally, i'll just watch who supports this sort of garbage and never vote for them again.
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On December 20 2012 05:23 farvacola wrote: Well, if the study is carried out correctly, I don't think we have anything to worry about. This is just Jay Rockefeller trying to score some cheap political points. Unfortunately, we not not only have the study being carried out correctly, we also need media to report on it correctly. :/
Most likely the study will find a correlation, but not being able to say much on what causes what. Even assuming the study is done and communicated to the journalists in an unbiased way, all the journalists (and editors!) will hear is "people playing video games are overrepresented among murderers", and we will be back to the usual articles.... 
I don't think this prejudice against gamers will end until gaming is more widespread and accepted. In a few decades almost everyone (also the politicians), except the very oldest ones maybe, will have played computer games or had brothers/close friends that played computer. I'd say that there is no real point to start huge storms over this, just continue to let mainstream media know that we play computer games, we are having fun doing it, we are perfectly normal people, and come play with us and you'll see!  + Show Spoiler +And if you don't play with us, I'll kill you!!!! > : (
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Speaking as a person who actually does conduct video game research for a living, I actually have something productive to add to this discussion.
There is a link between aggression and violent video games. Technically. The studies that find that kind of link use massive sample sizes to gather enough statistical significance to demonstrate the link because the effect size is minuscule. For example, if you don't play a violent game and then get tested for aggression you might score a 2 out of 5. After playing such a game you might score a 2.05 out of 5. (not actual numbers, but you get the idea)
The question, really, is whether or not the person reading the report is intelligent enough to recognize the difference between "statistical significance" and "practical significance". All that is to say that if the technologically-and-scientifically-retarded US Congress goes looking for reasons to condemn SC2, they'll find them. Expect a media circus in 18 months.
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On December 20 2012 12:33 titanicnewbie wrote: Speaking as a person who actually does conduct video game research for a living, I actually have something productive to add to this discussion.
There is a link between aggression and violent video games. Technically. The studies that find that kind of link use massive sample sizes to gather enough statistical significance to demonstrate the link because the effect size is minuscule. For example, if you don't play a violent game and then get tested for aggression you might score a 2 out of 5. After playing such a game you might score a 2.05 out of 5. (not actual numbers, but you get the idea)
The question, really, is whether or not the person reading the report is intelligent enough to recognize the difference between "statistical significance" and "practical significance". All that is to say that if the technologically-and-scientifically-retarded US Congress goes looking for reasons to condemn SC2, they'll find them. Expect a media circus in 18 months. Surprised that you don't mention correlation vs causation.
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This has no relation to what actually happened in the school, They are going to conduct a investigation if they can find a link between video violence in children, the people in the school were considered adults, further no real scientist would do any research on this because there is no real evidence to speak of.
This is just a policitical game from a senate. The reason behind it could be many, maybe to gain more trust in a coming elelection or to steer away the debate from the gun laws etc.
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