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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
On December 20 2012 05:20 sCCrooked wrote: I thought the whole farce of video games making you some sort of nut was laid to rest years ago, no? Its a Political move... most voters etc are still not connected to the e-Sports / Gamer World ... Its just a perfect scapegoat. | ||
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:15 decado90 wrote: yea, the violence thing is stupid but you're refuting a link between obesity and video games? Yeah, it's not Doritos and beer that makes you fat, it's all the starcraft playing | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:12 J_Slim wrote: Once again time for video games to be the target of the blame. Should a 5 year old be playing Call of Duty? No, probably not a great idea. Is this something the government needs to look into? No: the brat's parents should be responsible enough to think "hmm, my kid is probably too young to be playing first person shoot-em-up games. Maybe we should pick a game that isn't rated "M"ature, and actually designed for his age group." I started playing Halo at 5 iirc. But I agree with you, we shouldn't have laws restricting games to minors, parents should do their job and know when their kid is finally ready to start playing violent games, or scale up the violence (say, Star Wars or Final Fantasy versus Doom or CoD) The California law was a steaming pile of crap. | ||
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Germany333 Posts
It doesn't need to be laws, but shops not selling games to certain age groups is perfectly acceptable. | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
Jay Rockefeller is also vocally supportive of pretty much anything that would curtail freedom on the internet. Hes a backwards old fuck. Im alot more worried about the effect Jay Rockefeller has on society than that of video games. We should commission a study.... | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:28 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote: There needs to be a way to officially regulate videogames and the ages they are suitable for, it shouldn't all be up to parents. Being a parent doesn't automatically let you know what effect things will have on your child. It doesn't need to be laws, but shops not selling games to certain age groups is perfectly acceptable. They already do this. Parents are the ones who buy it. You cannot buy M rated games (from GameStop at least) unless you are 18 I believe. | ||
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EnWara
United States55 Posts
I still generally agree with the notion that there wouldn't be an issue if people followed the ESRB ratings. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On December 20 2012 05:29 ddrddrddrddr wrote: Gee, we played starcraft. Anyone feel like going on a murdering rampage? Instead of scrutinizing gun laws which is the most blatant issue, we're looking at video games which has been the subject of witch hunts for about a century now? Speaking of cheap political points this is just low level grandstanding. There would have been a ton more backlash if this was introduced into the house by republicans. that being said it won't get though the house for equally political reasons. | ||
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oBlade
United States6678 Posts
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On December 20 2012 05:42 HeavOnEarth wrote: close pls User was warned for this post but i said said pls  , god damit fu TL mods!!! grrrr....!!! gosugamers was better than u, TL is nothing(super serious face)+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/RJ.png) User was killed for this post that picture actually scared me. thats some creepypasta shit... | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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Communism
United States176 Posts
Another great prospect is state of emergency. a crazy taxi like game where you start riots by causing destruction and mayhem, your score increases based on the amount of wrath and destruction you bring upon innocent bystanders and fellow rioters. Can anyone please explain to me how starcraft a game that is basically just a sci fi movie that is a strategy game is anything like games like i mentioned, or even like CoD (or any FPS where you actually look down the sight of a gun and kill people) What makes playing starcraft any more desensitizing different than watching starship troopers. | ||
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J_Slim
United States199 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:28 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote: There needs to be a way to officially regulate videogames and the ages they are suitable for, it shouldn't all be up to parents. Being a parent doesn't automatically let you know what effect things will have on your child. It doesn't need to be laws, but shops not selling games to certain age groups is perfectly acceptable. As far as I know most places do that already. It's not that the stores are selling Mature games to 8 year olds... they're selling it to the parent's of an 8 year old who then give it to him. All video games have a rating, just like movies. It's not hard to find out what a game is rated, and why. Blood and Gore. Intense Violence. Strong Language. Any one of those should be a flag for the parent. Maybe my mom was strange, but I'm almost 30, and I didn't get to play Mortal Kombat while growing up. And the graphics then were *nothing* compared to what we have now. As a gamer, I plan on playing video games pretty much forever, but I'll definitely be dictating what games my kids can and cannot play. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:29 Femari wrote: They already do this. Parents are the ones who buy it. You cannot buy M rated games (from GameStop at least) unless you are 18 I believe. The ESRB is a entity internal to the game industry. However long ago, the game industry was afraid that the government would start regulating games, so they got preemptive about it so that they could assign ratings rather than some bureaucrat. There is no legal obligation on the retailers part to only sell "M" games to adults. That being said, you will be very hard pressed to find a store that will sell those games to minors. While there would be no effective difference between a government or an industry run ESRB (other than the chance that the government would label games poorly), it's easy to get up on a soap box and say "There is no government regulation on video games! We're letting them rape our children unimpeded!!!" | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:29 Femari wrote: They already do this. Parents are the ones who buy it. You cannot buy M rated games (from GameStop at least) unless you are 18 I believe. True news. Wal-Mart won't even carry M-rated games. Or, at least, they've been threatening to stop carrying them for a while. Though I COMPLETELY disagree with the idea that the duty should not rest on the parents. Parents have gotten shit lazy in the current age, and blame everyone else for their shitty parenting. It's not Lady Gaga's fault 10 year olds are listening to her blatantly sexualized party music. It's the parents who buy the damn CDs or let their children listen to a radio without supervision. It's the same thing with children on the internet. Britain recently held an inquiry on whether or not all porn should be blocked by internet providers, and anyone who wanted to watch porn had to specifically request the content from their ISP. Excuse me? So parents are so goddamned lazy now that they can't even watch what their 12 year old is accessing on the internet? A basic content control block will control a kid until he's 14 or so. After that you've gotta, you know, be a parent. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
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decado90
United States480 Posts
Should ANY parent be ok with their child playing Call of Duty? Skillessly and mindlessly shooting things for hours? Yet it's the most popular game on the market. Video games are one of the most worthless and non constructive hobbies and are very addicting. While the study won't find any link to violence I'm sure, at least it's bringing scrutinizing eyes to Video games. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:34 LgNKami wrote: that picture actually scared me. thats some creepypasta shit... its a reference to the mentalist, not some sort of linguini =/ | ||
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Communism
United States176 Posts
On December 20 2012 06:35 jinorazi wrote: i sure hope the research shuts that guy up, i think the research should be done by multiple sources just in case. Lol multiple sources of research, see thats not how things work in america. Whats going to happen instead is the organizations funding this guys organization are going to put up millions of dollars to lobby to try and prevent other people from conducting similar research. This way the findings will be the only evidence until all the legal hoops are jumped through (years later) when other studies will test these findings and methods. This makes it perfect to get the public in an uproar and try and use the findings to try and get some crazy bill passed. The craziest thing about the bill they will try and pass though is that the "video game legislation" will just be stamped at the bottom of a bill that is actually meaningful in an attempt to "pork-barrel" it into passing. This is the crown jewel of world government that is american "democracy" Its too bad that there are so many countries in the world who have never even had a taste of wonderful democracy. | ||
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