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Senate introduces Video Game Bill - Page 12
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Teggy03
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timurStas
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ShoCkeyy
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
First it was comic books, followed by rock and roll, followed by D&D, onto blaming Rap music and than TV and Movies and currently Video games. What tripe and what a colossal waste of time and money. | ||
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Fenris420
Sweden213 Posts
You could sample anyone in the demographic and in 99% of the cases they would have played video games to some degree. You could most likely also blame violence in general, since it is not unique to games. Violence exists in books, news, the real world and pretty much every other media we have access to. You can use the same hypothesis to support the ban/restriction for anything that isnt a cooking show or spongebob (unsure about the latter). There is also a very long historical tradition of glorifying violent people. We hold parades for returning soldier who are essentially just government sanctioned murderers. We depict generals as heroes, despite knowing full well that some of the most attrocious crimes of war were their doing. Each and every part of our history is saturated with violence and we do not condemn it there. In fact, in many ways we encourage it. Just look at how most countries were even formed. Computer games are no more or less violent than the rest of the world. They are a cultural reflection of our time and all of the history behind our society today. The only difference between playing a game and watching a movie is that you are cognitively engaged in a game. It poses abstract challenges that you need to overcome, a movie does not. There is a generation gap however. A lot of older people never played games on computers, but they did play board games. How is risk or chess any less violent? They are not, just different. Regardless of this, the computer games are unknown to some people and people are afraid of the unknown. In my lifetime, the people in charge have blamed the following things for causing violence and "unwanted" behaviour: - metal music - hiphop - trance/rave - dungeons and dragons - comic books - disney movies and other childrens tv - vampire books (didn't catch on really) - satanism - violent TV - violent movies - violent games - martial arts - online forums (a place for all above mentioned rejects I suppose) Im 27 years old. This is not a long time frame for such a wide array of conclusions. What they all have in common is that they are all new kinds of activities. Such things did not exist when the older people were young and hence they get suspected of cause all the troubles in the world. Not that there actually are troubles. I think across the board crime and violence is on a decline, but I don't have sources for that. If true, this means that the people of today are less violent than the people that belong to the older generation were. Despite school shootings, 99% of the less violent people play games. What are they even trying to find? That there is some sort of global epidemic of mass murderers just waiting to happen? Try looking into how society has become so adept at not just alienating but systematically judging and comparing people to others all the time. What happens to the people who can't play that game? They get marginalized. Look at how so many people are miserable despite living perfectly good lives. This is the common ground for all these school shootings, not video games. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On December 21 2012 02:01 timurStas wrote: The only way sc2 can help a killer is if he uses drones controlled topographically with a mouse and keyboard. Uhm. I think you just defined the new era of warfare. New headline inc: US Government increases drone capability, hires SC2 pros. | ||
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Infinite976
United States92 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OWKIi.jpg) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389276 ..move along.. this is "much ado about nothing".. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
And now Video games have to be the scapegoat, because they have to blame something right? At this point, so many kids play video games that it's very unlikely for one to do a shooting while not having played any, not to mention that if parents don't want their kids playing video games, they're prolly not going to have a gun either. But fuck it, let's censor video games even further then they already are (because we can have ultra violent movies but video games have to be straight up banned instead of being bound to age restrictions), god bless America. | ||
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Jollocks
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Xirroh
Canada146 Posts
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Infinite976
United States92 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:30 Xirroh wrote: A study looking at the behavioral effect of violent video games on people who are already diagnosed with a mental disorder could be benifitial. ...because if only the spoiled brat SRI prescribed Aspergers syndrome Ritalin head with the Bushmaster .223, Sig, and Glock hadn’t played STARCRAFT in the nerd club at school, none of this would have ever happened! Fucking morons... our legislators ignorance and hypocracy are palpable! | ||
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mewo
United States221 Posts
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
Stop worrying and realize this is a good thing in disguise (the study, not the violence). | ||
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Infinite976
United States92 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:49 SirKibbleX wrote: Jesus did any of you even read the OP? They just want to do a study on the effects of video game violence. Chances are this is a GOOD THING that they are doing this. Now there will finally be clear evidence done by real, legitimate scientists on whether or not video game violence correlates with real life violence (pro-tip: it doesn't, so you have nothing to worry about). Stop worrying and realize this is a good thing in disguise (the study, not the violence). http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/20/violence-and-videogames-we-look-at-the-studies-cited-in-the-aftermath-of-sandy-hook/ If the National Academy of Sciences has as much credibility as Iowa State University’s Professor Craig Anderson who heads the International Society for Research on Aggression and quotes their "conclusive" studies on CNN without mentioning he's the director and ultimately commissioned the study, I think we have plenty of reason to be worried! | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:49 SirKibbleX wrote: Jesus did any of you even read the OP? They just want to do a study on the effects of video game violence. Chances are this is a GOOD THING that they are doing this. Now there will finally be clear evidence done by real, legitimate scientists on whether or not video game violence correlates with real life violence (pro-tip: it doesn't, so you have nothing to worry about). Stop worrying and realize this is a good thing in disguise (the study, not the violence). They are doing it on children which means it has nothing to do with this incident. the only outcome is just more recommendations regarding age limits and restricting regarding what children may and may not play, nothing useful will come out which would shed light on this situation. Further you cannot disprove something in science. And the study will not be about correlation but about causality/causation. | ||
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HeatEXTEND
Netherlands836 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:49 SirKibbleX wrote: They just want to do a study on the effects of video game violence. It's just that this has been done to death..... | ||
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Esorydal
Poland42 Posts
On December 21 2012 05:49 SirKibbleX wrote: Jesus did any of you even read the OP? They just want to do a study on the effects of video game violence. Chances are this is a GOOD THING that they are doing this. Now there will finally be clear evidence done by real, legitimate scientists on whether or not video game violence correlates with real life violence (pro-tip: it doesn't, so you have nothing to worry about). Stop worrying and realize this is a good thing in disguise (the study, not the violence). your actually pretty dumb, these people who head the study are people that are pro gun anti internet who want to blame everything on something else but them selves. Its like giving a cop who shot a kid to do an investigation on himself. | ||
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Tohron
United States135 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On December 20 2012 05:23 farvacola wrote: Well, if the study is carried out correctly, I don't think we have anything to worry about. This is just Jay Rockefeller trying to score some cheap political points. Exactly this. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Hopefully I'll get a response. Hopefully. | ||
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