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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#21
Let them do it. By the time the report is released no-one will care anymore.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
December 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#22
On December 20 2012 05:50 Butterednuts wrote:
Jay Rockefeller.

Killing eSports.

i was waiting for it
Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
December 19 2012 20:53 GMT
#23
Playing violent video games doesn't desensitize you to actual violence though, it desensitizes you to fake violence. Saying that playing video games makes you more inclined to be violent is like saying playing NBA Jam will make you sweet at playing basketball.

You're not practicing basketball, you're not practicing to kill people, you're playing a simulation which doesn't even remotely stimulate your body in the same way that actually partaking in those activities would.

Maybe Wii Bowling is a better example, you're even going through the motions and by no means does Wii Bowling make you a better bowler nor does it even feel anything like bowling (<-- avid bowler). The stimulation, the experience, they're not the same thing and can't actually be compared.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 21:19:50
December 19 2012 20:55 GMT
#24
This is ridicoulus.
If you actually wanted proof of the effects of videogame, a long-term study would be the way to go.
A 18-month study will not prove anything, since there is no chance of finding the cause that leads to violent people being drawn to videogames. There maybe a coherence between people prepared to do violence and people who play videogames, but there is no way of telling which caused which.

I do believe that unnecesary violence, especially in young ages, is a danger, but the way people who know nothing about new media (internet/games/...) go about things is just naive.
When television came up eveybody was freaking out about violence on TV. Is that an Issue today? No, nobody cares about it anymore, because its "normal" for everyone.
PC games are still somewhat of a niche, so people freak out about it unnecessarily.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
December 19 2012 20:56 GMT
#25
Diversion tactic to move attention from the gun debate. Give this the attention it deserves - minimal.
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Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
December 19 2012 20:57 GMT
#26
'fiddling whilst rome burns'
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Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
December 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#27
I'm writing this from a prison cell so I will keep it short. When I was a young boy I used to play Super Mario Bros and from time to time Ikari Warriors, this led me to slaughter my family. Learn from this, do not play video games.
Set it ablaze!
Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
December 19 2012 21:01 GMT
#28
sane people know the difference between real life and fantasy insane people don't
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
December 19 2012 21:02 GMT
#29
I have no problem with a bill designed to study the impacts of video games on children, but I do have a problem with the fact that countless parents ignore the ESRB ratings on games.
How can this study even be conducted in good conscience?
Are they going to sit a bunch of 10 year-olds down and make them played games that are rated M(17+) or even A(18+)?
This is fucking bullshit. Little kids shouldn't be playing violent games because their parents should be buying them games that are appropriate for their age. Teenagers and adults older than 17 had better be the study group for this or else it might as well not be done at all.
twitch.tv/duttroach
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
December 19 2012 21:03 GMT
#30
On December 20 2012 05:53 Kich wrote:
Playing violent video games doesn't desensitize you to actual violence though, it desensitizes you to fake violence. Saying that playing video games makes you more inclined to be violent is like saying playing NBA Jam will make you sweet at playing basketball.

You're not practicing basketball, you're not practicing to kill people, you're playing a simulation which doesn't even remotely stimulate your body in the same way that actually partaking in those activities would.

Maybe Wii Bowling is a better example, you're even going through the motions and by no means does Wii Bowling make you a better bowler nor does it even feel anything like bowling (<-- avid bowler). The stimulation, the experience, they're not the same thing and can't actually be compared.

I think that in some cases, playing violent videogames can actually make you more sensitive to actual violence.

Anyone who's ever played Red Orchestra 2 knows how gruesome the deaths can be. It's almost too realistic, between soldiers screaming for their mothers, and other soldiers choking on their own blood. It always freaks me out, anyways.
Who called in the fleet?
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
December 19 2012 21:04 GMT
#31
On December 20 2012 06:01 Nausea wrote:
I'm writing this from a prison cell so I will keep it short. When I was a young boy I used to play Super Mario Bros and from time to time Ikari Warriors, this led me to slaughter my family. Learn from this, do not play video games.


No wonder you're in jail. Your defense was terrible.
twitch.tv/duttroach
ArchCN
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada5 Posts
December 19 2012 21:05 GMT
#32
In another news, it was also found that several violent crime offenders were peeing standing and eating a lot of chicken. New study to find out the effect of peeing standing up and eating chicken in violence.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#33
Remember when SOPA was on the table and a bunch of its supporters in Congress admitted they don't know how the Internet works or don't use it at all?

Round 2 of these morons figuring things out here we come
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
December 19 2012 21:11 GMT
#34
No problems with a study. Would have serious issues with legislation at this point, though.

Though I wish Congress would issue more studies on more pertinent issues like firearms. But the gun lobby would block that.
J_Slim
Profile Joined May 2011
United States199 Posts
December 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#35
Once again time for video games to be the target of the blame.

Should a 5 year old be playing Call of Duty? No, probably not a great idea. Is this something the government needs to look into? No: the brat's parents should be responsible enough to think "hmm, my kid is probably too young to be playing first person shoot-em-up games. Maybe we should pick a game that isn't rated "M"ature, and actually designed for his age group."

Legalize it!
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 19 2012 21:15 GMT
#36
On December 20 2012 05:41 GeNi wrote:
I hate how people blame video games on everything. obesity, anger management, and now killing...... its a sad thing but i guess we cant do anything about it..




yea, the violence thing is stupid but you're refuting a link between obesity and video games?
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Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 21:16:00
December 19 2012 21:15 GMT
#37
Pointless study. Spend the money on things dealing with treating mental health.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#38
I had no idea that the guy played sc2, wow. Knowing this country we're more likely to see a weird ban on video games than a ban on lethal assault weapons.
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Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#39
Anyone who plays Starcraft is a communist. Starcraft = Terrorism.
Living the liefe
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 21:21:37
December 19 2012 21:21 GMT
#40
On December 20 2012 06:15 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 05:41 GeNi wrote:
I hate how people blame video games on everything. obesity, anger management, and now killing...... its a sad thing but i guess we cant do anything about it..




yea, the violence thing is stupid but you're refuting a link between obesity and video games?


Most of my friends and I play video games a lot and none of us are fat or even overweight. We all did multiple sports in high school and maintain healthy lifestyles in college. From my experience I don't see any link between obesity and video games, anymore than there is a link between driving cars and obesity, watching tv and obesity, ect.
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