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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#141
All I can say is that the GTA area is just being hammered with rain and gust right now.
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leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
October 30 2012 02:26 GMT
#142
On October 30 2012 11:23 PhoenixVoid wrote:
All I can say is that the GTA area is just being hammered with rain and gust right now.


wow... even GTA is affected?
Never thought it would reach that far...
What are you tinkering about?
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
October 30 2012 02:26 GMT
#143
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.

Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 30 2012 02:28 GMT
#144
On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.


I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol

#No power still on tl



Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South.
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b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
October 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#145
Strong winds in Montreal right now. Little bit crazy outside but man looking at NYC, incredible omg.
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#146
On October 30 2012 11:26 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:14 heliusx wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


Wind gusts are topping out in the 60s. Sustained are half that. There are no 90+ mph winds. The real damage is going to be water damage.

Tell that to my house that was hit by one of the trees in the yard which were knocked over by the high winds.

How do I reach it? More seriously soggy ground makes trees vulnerable to gusts.
dude bro.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:33 GMT
#147
On October 30 2012 11:28 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 30 2012 11:15 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 30 2012 10:59 `phobiA wrote:
I didn't read through the whole thread but here are some reasons this storm is bad:

1.) 90mph+ winds
2.) It's fucking cold up there atm due to a recent cold front
3.) Counter-clockwise rotation in addition to a cold front (may) cause tornadoes
4.) It's fucking cold up there, snow is going to follow
5.) can you imagine the clean up effort with snow following? Getting power back up?
6.) A lot of shit in NY is underground(power conduits, etc.), I read they expect a foot of rain

So here are some things to think about... I am not entirely sure it is all accurate so please let me know. Stay safe in the NE!


You missed the most important reason this storm is bad.

7) People in the Northeast have little if any experience with hurricanes (they are not like Nor'easters; I've been through both), and this includes building codes, power grid design, and storm water management. This is why the subways are not running.

The wind is a problem, but the sheer amount of rain falling EVERYWHERE for the next few days will tax the normal drainage, and they aren't designed for it. It's like an earthquake - they happen so infrequently that the Northeast doesn't think of them when they develop building codes.

Sandy is a wuss to most of Florida - but Florida always has Hurricanes in mind, we have monster storm drainage systems (some of our normal thundershowers drop 6-9" of rain), and buildings are built to code to withstand high winds.

Stay safe, listen to the weather men and emergency management people, and make sure you have flood insurance.

Edited in - oh, and the underlying geology is different in the two regions. There's actually bedrock in the Northeast, and while there are swamps they aren't as extensive.


I guess its like if the south got a foot or two of snow lol

#No power still on tl



Pretty much. Snow and ice hitting down here and everything would shut down. Excessive snow would collapse houses, since the flat roof is bad for the weight. But that is exceedingly rare. Temperatures below freezing are pretty bad, too, because people don't see ice on roadways often in the South.


Kids in the south would be ecstatic if there was a foot of snow. Not many southerners have seen much snow except for some older people.
dude bro.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 30 2012 02:34 GMT
#148
I'm in central North Carolina and you would hardly even guess there's a hurricane. We had some high winds this afternoon, but right now all is calm.
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9620 Posts
October 30 2012 02:36 GMT
#149
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:39 GMT
#150
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<
dude bro.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:42:08
October 30 2012 02:39 GMT
#151
Not sure if we've officially crossed 400k without power yet (it was a bit over 300k in my broadcast area). My local area is currently pretty lightly hit, but northern virginia got hammered.

I like that Google always manages to have topically relevant search headers.

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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:42:58
October 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#152
On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<


Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
October 30 2012 02:42 GMT
#153
Apparently there are over 2 million people without power nationwide.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/
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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 02:48 GMT
#154
On October 30 2012 11:42 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:39 heliusx wrote:
On October 30 2012 11:36 Gene wrote:
NYU Hospital lost power, and backup power. They have to evacuate patients in this weather.

That's pretty bad. You would think a hospital would have backup backup generators. >.<


Like most things in NYC, I would venture to guess that the backup generators are in a basement which is probably now flooded as well. Hence the backup also being down in the statement you quoted.

I dunno, it would seem really stupid to put generators below the ground in a flood zone. Especially in a hospital.
dude bro.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:50:11
October 30 2012 02:49 GMT
#155
On October 30 2012 11:42 Craton wrote:
Apparently there are over 2 million people without power nationwide.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57542015/hurricane-sandy-more-than-2-million-already-without-power/


CNN is reporting 2.8 million. Regardless, it's a lot

the 8:22pm update
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Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 30 2012 02:57 GMT
#156
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol
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Czech M8
Profile Joined April 2012
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:01:55
October 30 2012 03:01 GMT
#157
Hurricane Sandy thread? More like QQ thread.

User was warned for this post
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
October 30 2012 03:04 GMT
#158
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote:
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol


suck it up, i flew my hang glider into katrina.
dude bro.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
October 30 2012 03:05 GMT
#159
WASHINGTON — The nation’s oldest nuclear power plant is on alert after waters from a colossal storm reached high levels.

Oyster Creek in Lacey Township, N.J., was already offline for regular maintenance before Sandy, a superstorm downgraded Monday night from a hurricane, slammed the East Coast.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says an “unusual event” was declared around 7 p.m. when water reached a high level. The situation was upgraded less than two hours later to an “alert,” the second-lowest in a four-tiered warning system.

Federal officials say all nuclear plants are still in safe condition. They say water levels near Oyster Creek, which is along the Atlantic Ocean, will likely recede within a few hours.

Oyster Creek went online in 1969 and provides 9 percent of New Jersey’s electricity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/nuclear-power-plants-prepare-to-shut-down-if-storm-sends-water-wind-levels-too-high/2012/10/29/e8e5dc6e-2226-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:15:40
October 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#160
On October 30 2012 11:57 Microsloth wrote:
After Katrina, weather networks and emergency crews are going to lean towards preparing people for the worst. So yeah, it seems like they're hyping it up, but why not? Hype it up, people get prepared (or should). Don't hype it up, and people get fucked up.

If you were a weather network, or someone making these decisions, would you "tell NY to suck it up and deal yo, cause down in FL we got mad hurri-skills".. or would you try to prepare people accordingly.

Nothing wrong with taking the side of caution. You didn't have to go to school.. AND there was no crazy ass storm??? AWESOME Celebrate bros lol


I agree. Erring on the side of caution is better than being caught unprepared. Then again, either way doesn't impact me personally that much - during Isaac I had to go to work. (Being less than 1.6 miles from my place of employment, and the nature of my job, means that odds are I will still be at work even when no one else has to report.) Then again, one of my older brothers was actually on a radio transmitter tower during a hurricane in Mass (I think it was Hurricane Bob back in '91) so I probably can't complain too much.
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