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On October 22 2012 14:55 SCRedditor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:31 LeroyJenkem wrote:
I think they will be amazed at how the people let themselves become enslaved to a society that makes them spend their entire lives working just so they can in return recieve a piece of paper that represents something that doesnt even exist.
I believe 1000 years from now, a monetary society wont exist, and would be looked upon as one of mankinds worst mistakes. Worst mistake? Lol, let's see if you have a better idea. I think we will be remembered for the industrial revolution, nuclear research, and space flight. The same way we remember the first uses of cuneiform in Sumer.
Money will not cease to exist in 1000 years. It will be entirely digital and likely a unified global currency (as will the economy be, probably) but it will still exist. Ways of valuing labour and tying it to some form or recompense has existed for far longer than 1000 years and will still continue to exist.
I like the idea of us being a transitional period, personally, and we will be seen as the real Middle Ages, where societies and mankind as a whole moved beyond the primary limitations of the previous world (lack of resources, light, medicine, disease, food) and into....whatever we become in the future. Provided we don't get any stupid rogue states, of course.
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"We are not descended from humans!" "God created each species exactly how it is!"
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On October 22 2012 15:06 Sanctimonius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 14:55 SCRedditor wrote:On October 21 2012 23:31 LeroyJenkem wrote:
I think they will be amazed at how the people let themselves become enslaved to a society that makes them spend their entire lives working just so they can in return recieve a piece of paper that represents something that doesnt even exist.
I believe 1000 years from now, a monetary society wont exist, and would be looked upon as one of mankinds worst mistakes. Worst mistake? Lol, let's see if you have a better idea. I think we will be remembered for the industrial revolution, nuclear research, and space flight. The same way we remember the first uses of cuneiform in Sumer. Money will not cease to exist in 1000 years. It will be entirely digital and likely a unified global currency (as will the economy be, probably) but it will still exist. Ways of valuing labour and tying it to some form or recompense has existed for far longer than 1000 years and will still continue to exist. I like the idea of us being a transitional period, personally, and we will be seen as the real Middle Ages, where societies and mankind as a whole moved beyond the primary limitations of the previous world (lack of resources, light, medicine, disease, food) and into....whatever we become in the future. Provided we don't get any stupid rogue states, of course.
i think its more likely that well have gone extinct/society will crumble if the world gets to a point where theres a unified global currency and weve solved resource problems and all that there wont be any rogue states because then we can jsut cut them off
i mean there arent really many countries now that are going against the flow of the rest of the world im pretty sure in 1000 years theyll all have given up and gone the easier route
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I'm just sad that I live in an age where religion still have a big place in human life. Whatever the future for mankind looks like for their sake, I hope they have got ridden of religion in some way.
I wish humans could just accept that we know nothing about "the big picture" and can't do anything more than living our lives in best possible way and explore the reality we live in.
To answer the OP. I think they will look back at the early technological advances of mankind and shake their heads on how fast we consumed the resources of earth with the technology we have.
Too big portion of humans are too stupid to be dealing with the technology we have at our hands.
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they can't even think of us in 10 years. 1000 forget about it
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On October 22 2012 15:56 papaz wrote:
I wish humans could just accept that we know nothing about "the big picture" and can't do anything more than living our lives in best possible way and explore the reality we live in.
But... we do know quite a lot about the big picture...?
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The long term future of humanity holds two very extreme possibilties: It will either be (near)-extinction or ecstasy.
The first one seems by far the most likely scenario. The last hundred years have been a century-long flirt with apocalypse. And although the clearly visible threat of the Cold War is behind us, the planet is still stacked with nuclear weapons and the majority of all humans on earth still buy into some form of ideological extremism (not just religious, but also extreme forms of nationalism or near-religious believe in political/economical dogma). This remains a recipe for disaster, especially since it's unlikely that nuclear weapons will remain the pinnacle of 'big booms'. Theoretical physics holds promises of far more powerful ways of generating energy and with our current mindset, the first thing we will do is make a big fucking bomb out of it. So the odds of us destroying ourselves that way seems fairly likely if we keep up the current game. Like Einstein said:"We need a new way of thinking if mankind is to survive and move to higher levels".
Now if we somehow navigate this very narrow neck of cultural crisis then the future holds infinite promise: complete elimination of resource limitations, nano-technology, virtual realities, star-flight, redesigning of our biological matrix, man-machine symbiosis, immortality, artificial intelligence, post-humanism and many things we cannot even currently imagine. If we can get our act together, godhood is right within our reach. So to answer the question: if we survive the coming centuries reasonably intact, I don't think the question has an answer as the future humans will not 'think' in a way that is even conceivable to us. For all we know they are all hooked up as a group-mind to an infinitely fast quantum-computer living out every hedonistic fantasy at the speed of light. Who knows? The only thing we can be fairly certain about is that they will be nothing like us.
So...lets not go extinct please? It's a small journey from monkey-hood to star-flight and it would be terrible embarrassing to be the generation that 'dropped the ball.'
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Science is simply a model of best fit of all the occurrences we observe, somewhat similar to how religion was looked at a millennia or more ago. I would take a gander that the next millennia will either replace or shift science into something unrecognisable to us today.
I would say that a millennia from now, the general populace will treat us (21st century beings) like how most of our secular society treat the past millennia. They will think our "model of best fit" was ridiculous just like how we think the past's "model of best fit" was irrational, they will think that as well.
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They will remember that Probe1 quoted you that time.
No but seriously they'll probably remember the Burj Khalifa, great pyramid, etc. other great building achievements.
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Ooooh. Someone played the religion is looked down upon card. Time for popcorn!
I think they'll look at us as we look at the middle ages. Barbaric, uneducated, trying to be educated in some parts and exploring things.
Of course human civilization could be just restarting after some major catastrophe or we could be going into some enders game style world.
1,000 years is a long time. Hard to predict anything. Oh to any people in the future reading this:
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! If english isn't spoken anymore then, good luck translating.
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First off, this thread is hilarious and ridiculous and funny, anyone who is trying to answer it i almost want to say why?
lol my problem is obviously with the question, because it implies that any of us know what's gonna happen in the next 1000 years. 1000 years ago was pre dark ages , wtf we will probably be far into space in the next 1000 years , but i can't even say that for certain cause humanity might just die!
In other words , hidden in the OP question is "what will happen in the future (From the us perspective)"
I would much rather see the users of teamliquid discuss what's gonna happen in the next 10 - 20 years, as i think that is the scale that TL could drop hella knowledge.
for now i'm just trying to get through tomorrow. 
GL EVERYBODY
also i want to point out that our acceleration is going to decrease over the next periods, as we are at k/2 halfway to our saturation point (moores law only applied to the last 1000 years, while our acceleration was going up)
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On October 22 2012 11:22 DeepElemBlues wrote:
It's a little bit funny that most people simply name things that they don't like and then breezily predict that they will be reduced to a pathetic level that the poster would find personally amusing right now.
DeepElemBlues, this is the wisest thing you have ever said!
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Interesting question, but not really. What happens in the future is beyond our control. Just think of how we think of cavemen now. Shrug a shoulder, and that's it.
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"Those are just spooky stories Son, now go back to sleep."
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On October 22 2012 15:59 Groog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 15:56 papaz wrote:
I wish humans could just accept that we know nothing about "the big picture" and can't do anything more than living our lives in best possible way and explore the reality we live in.
But... we do know quite a lot about the big picture...?
With the "big picture" I mean "why is there a universe or anything for that matter in the first place". More of a philosphical question rather than a scientific.
I'm not talking about the explanation of how the universe was born from big bang, the planets, evolution, mankind etc. There are some questions that goes beyond science and I am perfectly fine with, most probably, never finding out the answer to them (if there is such a thing as a final/good answer).
But a lot of people in this world are not happy with that, and instead of being content of what we know about life, exploring and having constructive/fun/meaningful discussions on what more there can be to existence that we yet don't know about they treat fairy tales as facts.
It's one thing to be open minded about that their might be something to life/existence that is more than we will ever find out by scientific research but a whole different story to treat speculations as pure evidence/fact.
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Thinking about religion as "fairy tales" is not the correct way to look at it. Religion is a much more philosophically significant thing than that.
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1,000 years from now, the world will look back upon our time and wonder how humans could possibly have misunderstood and hated each other as much as we currently do--all while we zap aliens with our laser guns.
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Why hasn't this been posted yet ? http://pbfcomics.com/209/
I must have missed it it's been 7 pages, but as a safety...
I have 2 guesses
1) Just like we have a clear idea of what's been happening the past few centuries since it's been very well documented, people won't have a very much altered view of our present, the common guy will have a vague idea around which century appeared the computer, some medical innovations and I think it's about it...
2) Historians all get Historian flue and die in horrible pain, or ALIENS
Call Of Duty is probably the most present media in term of number, and dvds, hard drive and other data storage could be conserved better than paper, also it's present in the common home (just like what we found from 1000 years ago and earlier)
Anything else that's found won't tell them call of duty is just a video game, might even hint them as being an accurate representation of the time since a lot of the media is also about politics and conflicts.
History is Call of Duty
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If and I am saying a pretty BIG IF here, Humanity survives for 1000 more years we won't be on Earth anymore, I am pretty sure we will have mined/extracted everything and have an unlivable atmosphere. Though the humans will look back and hopefully learn from out greed and reliance on material objects and use their collective will to explore strange to worlds seek out new life and new civilizations and to boldly go where no man has gone before.
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For people talking about future society looking down on us, I think this quote from Isaac Newton is appropriate: "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
I don't see why people of the future or us today should look down upon any society before us. You may not agree with some of the actions or thoughts of the time, but you have the advantage of having their experiences and knowledge added to your own. If you were born during those time periods, you would not be magically different from those people.
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