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Bullied teenager, Amanda Todd story (suicide) - Page 7
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Nobody helped her and some even encouraged her and watched her getting beaten up, thats disgusting... | ||
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Minzy
Australia387 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Sad because people would take the time to be dick heads to a 15 year old girl, clearly not old enough to make intelligent decisions. Sad because she was dumb enough to think she was impervious on the internet. | ||
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Marti
552 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote: Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. Yes, i am also convinced that ending one's life is very selfish and that everyone who is suffering should be denied the right to end it because that's "stupid, juvenile and selfish", and that anyone who does that is probably a coward, nevermind the fact that it probably takes balls of steel to decide to kill yourself... | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:10 Nevermind86 wrote: True but she had no perspective at all, maybe some people are born like this, they are truly stupid that is, in that case then she got what she wanted. It's an instict to do everything to survive, not the contrary, maybe she abused drugs big time or her parents are pussies worried about a new plasma TV and not their daughter or something but this whole excuse about being bullied is only that, a dumb excuse for a sad ending. I could understand suicide if somebody loses a limb, if you have a bad sickness or something but really for being bullied over social networks and school? Good thing those genes are gone for good. how is this guy not temp banned yet? He must be a troll? In the meantime, why dont you read up about suicide: Put quite simply from suicide.org Suicide is a desperate act by someone who is in intense pain and wants their pain to stop. That is a HUMAN response to extreme pain, not a selfish one. And over 90 percent of the people who die by suicide have a mental illness at the time of their death, so they are not thinking clearly. Saying that a person who had severe clinical depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, PTSD, or a similar illness was engaging in an act of selfishness when they died by suicide – even though their thought process, mood, and judgment were greatly affected by their mental illness – is not only inaccurate, but downright cruel, to both the suicide angel and the suicide survivors. And those who use the word “selfish” are merely helping perpetuate the STIGMA associated with suicide. A suicidal action that manifests from intense, excruciating, unbearable pain associated with a serious mental illness has nothing to do with selfishness. Period. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:17 Marti wrote: Yes, i am also convinced that ending one's life is very selfish and that everyone who is suffering should be denied the right to end it because that's "stupid, juvenile and selfish", and that anyone who does that is probably a coward, nevermind the fact that it probably takes balls of steel to decide to kill yourself... Juvenile you say? How old do you think she was? At least read something about her before you throw out your opinion. EDIT Actually, looking at your word choices in general I would say you know nothing about suicide. If you did, you wouldn't call people who commit suicide "selfish". | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:14 Minzy wrote: the problem i have with cyber bullying is, its so easy to avoid, can they not just shut down their facebook and make another? change their number? simple steps like that. sure the issue doesn't stop, but the "cyber-bullying" aspect sure does. lets face it, most of the people that DO get "cyber-bullied"... well their lives dont revolve around computers, theyre not system programmers, or website developers or coders etc. step away from the computer, and it stops. What you are saying isn't exactly false, but I don't like how you are putting things into perspective... WHY should the bullied be the one to make change? It just reminds me of several stories in which we were forcing a bullied child to change school. The consequences should be on the bullies, not the bullied. The bullied have the rights to live a normal life (using internet, using facebook, going to a specific school). | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
I'm also disappointed that it was somehow HER decision to not press charges - WTF? If it were my kid I wouldn't give a flying fuck if she "didn't want to cause more trouble", I would file the charges for her whether she liked it or not (obviously she doesn't know the right course of action to take in regards to this). No one would get away with shit like that if it were my own kid. I think that would have been one of the few ways for her to regain some of her dignity - to see these pieces of shit taken away in handcuffs. | ||
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Nevermind86
Somalia429 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:12 XenOmega wrote: If I were a mod, I would probably ban you so can reflect on your stupidity. It doesn't matter if she was beautiful, rich or living in a good country. What matters is that she was not well, she was suffering. It disgusts me how you have absolutely ZERO idea about suicide, about people try to commit suicide and people committing suicide ; you are just throwing your opinions without thinking about them. Every person react differently to situations like this. Some can easily overcome them ; some can't. It would appears Amanda was in the latter. Some can handle pressure, hate, pain ; she couldn't. She needed help, but she didn't get it (was it because she didn't look? Was it because she didn't know whom to confess to?) Here, let me tell you this. Starving is painful, no one will disagree with that. Did you know that pain isn't just physical? Psychological pain is recognized and sometimes can be hard to fight against. You can easily set up laws against physical abuse ; but psychological abuse are much harder to locate. IMO. pain is pain ; it doesn't matter if its physical or psychological. And most people who opt for suicide are people suffering. So don't you dare judge them. Could she have "survived" or found a way out of this, other than suicide? Yes. Should we blame her because she "didn't try" hard enough? No, and saying that is plain stupid. Not everyone has access to information, not everyone know how to deal with stuffs like this. Yea, there are plenty of ressourses around (against suicide, against bully. There are also authorities that can help, etc), but maybe she didn't have access to them. Maybe she didn't even know those existed. Go ahead and report me. This is what's wrong with society people have it too easy nowadays and it's all about being politically correct, I'm sure if I wrote some brainy answer saying the same thing but with beatiful words that make you feel like an intellectual trying to descifre what I said, then you wouldn't say anything does banning me changes she made a stupid choise?, deffinevitely not. Wake up some people are stupid, and this stupid society in which we live in doesn't help either, we have all these rules and all these created necessities that forces people to work 70 hours a week for having a bunch of plasma tv's that they don't need the real reason her parents didn't take care of her, and you as a good politically correct person decides to morally ban me as if she's going back to life, how about you respect what I have to say because maybe you don't like it but there is some truth in it. I'm sure your solution is to pass some legislation against human nature encarcerating kids that bully like that solves anything, if "solutions" like that continue to be implemented then soon kids won't be able to play with each other, what a terrible world would that be. I was bullied so many years, people always beated me around, then I decided to practice martial arts and get some personality and that was soon over, that effort made me a better person, move on. She could have done a million things to solve her first world problems, but no, suicide and put a video on youtube, hah. | ||
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Br0kensword
United States35 Posts
I've come across so many lonely people in my life looking for someone to, if anything, just be there and listen. I don't really think you can understand what its like to be in such a dark place unless you've been there yourself. You lose all perspective as this "thing" starts to consume you and it weighs you down more and more each day. Its like a demon hiding in a dark corner, you cant always see it but you know its there and it starts to take the pleasure out of life as you spend more and more time thinking about it. You look for a release but even if you find one its often fleeting and is never enough. You might cut yourself to feel something or take drugs or booze to try to make you forget, but what ever it is that is hurting you is still there waiting. Its things like this that make me wish I could of had a chance to talk to this person before she did what she did. | ||
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Elsid
Ireland318 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:23 Nevermind86 wrote: Go ahead and report me. This is what's wrong with society people have it too easy nowadays and it's all about being politically correct, I'm sure if I wrote some brainy answer saying the same thing but with beatiful words that make you feel like an intellectual trying to descifre what I said, then you wouldn't say anything does banning me changes she made a stupid choise?, deffinevitely not. Wake up some people are stupid, and this stupid society in which we live in doesn't help either, we have all these rules and all these created necessities that forces people to work 70 hours a week for having a bunch of plasma tv's that they you don't need the real reason her parents didn't take care of her and you as a good politically correct person decides to morally ban me as if she's going back to life, how about you respect what I have to say because maybe you don't like it but there is some truth in it, period. Or maybe you don't know shit about the situation or suicide and should educate yourself about the issue. It's a human response to extreme pain. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:14 RogerX wrote: what i'm incredibly shocked and disappointed is that people just watched her getting bullied... This isn't the bystander effect is it? Nobody helped her and some even encouraged her and watched her getting beaten up, thats disgusting... Exactly. Absolute fucking cowards. Every one of them. | ||
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ownyah
146 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:25 rhs408 wrote: Exactly. Absolute fucking cowards. Every one of them. Well hate to break the news for you but chances are you, yourself would also have been an observer who wouldn't do jackshit. That is why it still occurs. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
Some people can overcome adversity (whether self-inflicted or not), some people can have motivation to complete tasks, etc...; but there are people that don't have those abilities. People that suffer from, or are susceptible to, addictions, peer-pressure, or any number of psychiatric problems, whether societal or biological. It matters not that she brought some of it on herself, but that it was exacerbated and there was no one who truly tried to help someone in a compromised situation, both mentally and physically. Everyone of a negative opinion should probably try to read the literature surrounding the psychology of suicide victims, bullying and what it really does to the mind. | ||
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Akamu
United States309 Posts
Her parents could have done, well anything. By the looks of it they were half retarded or never there. Maybe both. But mostly this girl fucked up. I get that in high school you don't really think about anything but yourself or how the world sees you but come the fuck on. You can't be so thick as to take your own life. That's childish. If she had such a problem with school, why not home school? Hell, why not drop out, work for a little bit and they come back and get the certificate? It seems to me like if she had such a huge problem with people seeing her boobs and making fun of stuff she did on the internet or at school then fucking remove those things. Why did no one suggest this? Parents? Family? maybe some form of friend? Maybe i'm just an asshole this just screams new age survival of the fittest to me. I see too many things that could have been done for this girl, by her or someone close to her to fix her problems. Or at least make them better. | ||
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Prime`Rib
United States613 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:26 ownyah wrote: Well hate to break the news for you but chances are you, yourself would also have been an observer who wouldn't do jackshit. That is why it still occurs. Speak for yourself bro, I think I and a lot of other people would have helped if the same situation presented itself - everyone in high school isn't as big a coward as you maybe were? It might still occur in some places, but certainly not everywhere. Not every kid is raised to be a giant piece of shit. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:35 rhs408 wrote: Speak for yourself bro, I think I and a lot of other people would have helped if the same situation presented itself - everyone in high school isn't as big a coward as you maybe were? It might still occur in some places, but certainly not everywhere. Not every kid is raised to be a giant piece of shit. Honestly speaking, in high school I probably wouldn't have done much. Now that I'm older I would stand up for that person. | ||
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Heweree
United Kingdom497 Posts
She wasn't maybe very resilient or smart but she didn't deserve that. That's so stupid, like a guy said it gets way better. | ||
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