EPTHave you ever considered it from her point of view? She doesn't have any friends, didn't go outside during the summer at all, nobody except family speaks to her, she just sits at home all alone all the time. Now here comes this guy who says he likes her, wants to talk to her, probably makes her feel good about herself for the first time in ages, and all he wants it to have sex... Sure it's wrong since he has a GF but all she has to do to keep this good feeling or normality going is sleep with him. I don't know about you but I'd do the same thing she did, if I were in her boat.
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
Have you ever considered it from her point of view? She doesn't have any friends, didn't go outside during the summer at all, nobody except family speaks to her, she just sits at home all alone all the time. Now here comes this guy who says he likes her, wants to talk to her, probably makes her feel good about herself for the first time in ages, and all he wants it to have sex... Sure it's wrong since he has a GF but all she has to do to keep this good feeling or normality going is sleep with him. I don't know about you but I'd do the same thing she did, if I were in her boat. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote: She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. it's not easy having a good perspective at that age, hell, most people don't even have a good perspective in later years | ||
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dannystarcraft
United States179 Posts
On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote: She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. Going to go with a little harsh there... To take a positive point from your post though... we should all be happy to have life at all. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On October 13 2012 05:03 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote: i would give a fuck, and so should you. grow up, please Thanks. Some of the asnwers in this thread make me fucking disgusted. Where is the humanity? Where is the fucking humanity? We've all been teenagers, we all had our bad moments, and she didn't make out of hers. I find it so strange when people feel anything else than sadness and disappointment in our culture reading this story.. | ||
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isaachukfan
Canada785 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:09 killa_robot wrote: Interesting they didn't mention 4chan at all. If I'm not mistaken, I recall others saying their was a thread involving said girl the other day. Though it could have just been them discussing the video I suppose. You know, I sincerely hope she didn't kill herself because she posted tits to 4chan and was got upset when they told her she was, that would be a very dumb way to go. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
Suicide is a desperate act by someone who is in intense pain and wants their pain to stop. That is a HUMAN response to extreme pain, not a selfish one. And over 90 percent of the people who die by suicide have a mental illness at the time of their death, so they are not thinking clearly. Saying that a person who had severe clinical depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, PTSD, or a similar illness was engaging in an act of selfishness when they died by suicide – even though their thought process, mood, and judgment were greatly affected by their mental illness – is not only inaccurate, but downright cruel, to both the suicide angel and the suicide survivors. And those who use the word “selfish” are merely helping perpetuate the STIGMA associated with suicide. A suicidal action that manifests from intense, excruciating, unbearable pain associated with a serious mental illness has nothing to do with selfishness. Period. I wish OP would update with this qoute, it would help a lot if people could understand others pain. | ||
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Fumanchu
Canada669 Posts
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Trizz
Netherlands1318 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:23 killa_robot wrote: Watched the video now.... She made so many damn mistakes. Flashed random people online, slept with a guy who had a girlfriend (granted he was at fault there too) and then lied to protect him (srsly?). Granted, the bullying was undeserved, and I feel sorry for her for that, but it's really hard to sympathize with her when she just continued to make the same mistakes and then was stupid enough to kill herself. *Sigh We live in a world where people are way too fucked up, and too many people are okay with it/ignore it. We're being killed by apathy. Don't forget she drank bleach, turned into a alcoholist, drug user and cut herself multiple times. The blackmailing was uncalled for, but I can't sympathize for her either. | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
 One of the worst parts about being a teenager is having to make adult decisions without having the maturity and life experiences to really comprehend the consequences. I've talked to quite a few young women who slept around indiscriminately in high school. Most of them all said their first time was because their then boyfriend said they loved them, and if they loved them back they would "do anything" for them. But what's really sad is that so many of those girls said they were already having self worth issues. Their parents were never home, their Dad had left them, they had been sexually abused as a child, etc. They were all seeking to fill a void in their life. They wanted to feel loved and to be liked. This young girl was obviously seeking approval and love when she took to having inappropriate conversations with guys on the internet. What was going on in her life that she had this void inside her to begin with? Kids are going to be kids. Good and bad. The bullying is a sad reality of life, but giving in to peer pressure is only the embodiment of low self esteem, self worth, and a lack of moral compass/direction. Bullying, imo, can only affect you to this degree if you don't have a group of people behind you to support you, and tell you that you do matter, you are loved, and you are special before*** the bullying started taking place. I feel so bad for this girl and her family. I pray everyday that between me and my wife, we can ensure our daughter doesn't suffer the same problems she did. I will always believe that when a man and a woman love each other, respect each other, live a life based on the foundations of God and Faith, and then teach their children the joy and happiness that comes with such a life that they will be strong enough to endure the hardships young children and teenagers are faced with. Hearts and prayers to her and her family | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:01 GreEny K wrote: Have you ever considered it from her point of view? She doesn't have any friends, didn't go outside during the summer at all, nobody except family speaks to her, she just sits at home all alone all the time. Now here comes this guy who says he likes her, wants to talk to her, probably makes her feel good about herself for the first time in ages, and all he wants it to have sex... Sure it's wrong since he has a GF but all she has to do to keep this good feeling or normality going is sleep with him. I don't know about you but I'd do the same thing she did, if I were in her boat. Im sorry are you talking to me? If you are Im sure u misunderstood something I said. All my posts thus far has been about empathy with her and I sure as hell respect her. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:02 Alpino wrote: Thanks. Some of the asnwers in this thread make me fucking disgusted. Where is the humanity? Where is the fucking humanity? We've all been teenagers, we all had our bad moments, and she didn't make out of hers. I find it so strange when people feel anything else than sadness and disappointment in our culture reading this story.. It's because some of the posters here are still at that age, so they wouldn't know what you or I know. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:06 NEEDZMOAR wrote: Im sorry are you talking to me? If you are Im sure u misunderstood something I said. All my posts thus far has been about empathy with her and I sure as hell respect her. No, sorry for the confusion. I was talking to the other guy that posted, he seems to be set in his way of thinking and didn't consider her point of view. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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Nevermind86
Somalia429 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:01 mememolly wrote: it's not easy having a good perspective at that age, hell, most people don't even have a good perspective in later years True but she had no perspective at all, maybe some people are born like this, they are truly stupid that is, in that case then she got what she wanted. It's an instict to do everything to survive, not the contrary, maybe she abused drugs big time or her parents are pussies worried about a new plasma TV and not their daughter or something but this whole excuse about being bullied is only that, a dumb excuse for a sad ending. I could understand suicide if somebody loses a limb, if you have a bad sickness or something but really for being bullied over social networks and school? Good thing those genes are gone for good. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On October 13 2012 06:04 Fumanchu wrote: The frustrating thing I find with these types of events, is that it's hard to take a lesson away from it. Obviously, you can say that this teaches us to pay more attention to people in need, and to put into actions the words written here today. However, it's so difficult to approach people in this type of situation. All you can do is offer them support and try to be the friend that they need. But if they keep shoving you out, it's almost impossible for you to break through. The next time I see someone who is acting depressed, I'm definitely going to reach out more strongly. But if they push you away, what more can you do? In my opinion, its very hard for relatives and friends to deal with people who are depressed, I know this from my own experience. depressed people push others away for so many reasons, pride, panic, pain, whatever the reason might be, be sure that its not a logical reason, and people close to the victim should never feel guilty for not being able to take care of whoevers in need of help. What one can do, is to contact authorities, professional psychologists etc. make sure that the depressed person gets someone to talk to, someone who either went through the same thing, or have enough education on the subject to be able to understand the persons situation anyway ( aka a professional) But thats about it. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On October 13 2012 05:58 Nevermind86 wrote: She was young, beatiful probably, living in a nice country with probably a nice family and in a few years she would look at this and laugh hard at how everybody called her a whore. What a stupid reason to commit suicide I have no respect for her, there are people starving to death and they still try to do everythin to survive but this dumb girl thinks her life is horrible because of what some people think of her?, what a lack of character she got what she deserved. If I were a mod, I would probably ban you so can reflect on your stupidity. It doesn't matter if she was beautiful, rich or living in a good country. What matters is that she was not well, she was suffering. It disgusts me how you have absolutely ZERO idea about suicide, about people try to commit suicide and people committing suicide ; you are just throwing your opinions without thinking about them. Every person react differently to situations like this. Some can easily overcome them ; some can't. It would appears Amanda was in the latter. Some can handle pressure, hate, pain ; she couldn't. She needed help, but she didn't get it (was it because she didn't look? Was it because she didn't know whom to confess to?) Here, let me tell you this. Starving is painful, no one will disagree with that. Did you know that pain isn't just physical? Psychological pain is recognized and sometimes can be hard to fight against. You can easily set up laws against physical abuse ; but psychological abuse are much harder to locate. IMO. pain is pain ; it doesn't matter if its physical or psychological. And most people who opt for suicide are people suffering. So don't you dare judge them. Could she have "survived" or found a way out of this, other than suicide? Yes. Should we blame her because she "didn't try" hard enough? No, and saying that is plain stupid. Not everyone has access to information, not everyone know how to deal with stuffs like this. Yea, there are plenty of ressourses around (against suicide, against bully. There are also authorities that can help, etc), but maybe she didn't have access to them. Maybe she didn't even know those existed. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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United States1601 Posts
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