EPTBullied teenager, Amanda Todd story (suicide) - Page 14
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Skeltons
22 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:01 Prime`Rib wrote: Maybe her dad knows about it and fucking her too. You like conspiracy? A kid died. At least show some fucking respect for the loss of human life if you can't think of anything better to do. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:03 Skeltons wrote: A kid died. At least show some fucking respect for the loss of human life if you can't think of anything better to do. Can't waiver the mind of some, best to leave it and move on. Getting caught up with people that lack any moral empathy is a losing battle, they're doing their own thing and we're doing anything. Individualism does that. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:03 obesechicken13 wrote: While I often think that high schoolers are just immature and worry too much about what their peers think of them (I did), I have to admit that while I was in high school, that used to be everything. I also remember kids beating and hating on other kids because they wanted them to know or care what other people thought. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:58 Voltaire wrote: Nope. You don't know all the circumstances of her death. Stop prying into other people's personal matters. she said she was bullied. unless I assume she's lying, than I can probably say that her being bullied didn't make her feel very good about herself. so I can blame bullies for being assholes, because they are assholes. I don't have to know any circumstances about her death to know that bullying is wrong. and prying would be if I was searching for information about the circumstances of her death, so chill. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:41 StateofReverie wrote: She showed her breasts? Something tells me there is a lot of missing info here every word in her video + Show Spoiler + Hello! Ive decided to tell you about my never ending story In 7th grade I would go with friends on webcam meet and talk to new people. Then got called stunning, beautiful, perfect, etc Then wanted me to flash... So I did... 1 year later... I got a msg on facebook From him... Don't know how he knew me.. It said... If you don't put on a show for me I will send ur boobs He knew my adress. School, relatives, friends family names. Christmas break.... Knock at my door at 4am... It was the police... my photo was sent to everyone I then got really sick and got... Anxiety, major deppresion and panic disorder I then moved and got into Drugs + Alcohol .... My anxiety got worse... couldn't go out A year past and the guy came back with my new list of friends and school. But made a facebook page My boobs were his profile pic... Cried every night, lost all my friends and respect people had for me... again... Then nobody liked me name calling, Judged... I can never get that photo back It's out there forever... I started cutting... I promised myself never again... Didn't have any friends and I sat at lunch alone So I moved Schools again.... Everything was better even though I sat still alone at lunch in the library everyday. After a month later I stated talking to an old guy friend We back and fourth texted and he started to say he.. Liked me...Led me on.. He had a girlfriend then he said come over my gf's on vacation So I did... huge mistake.... He hooked up with me.... I thought he liked me.... 1 week later I get a text get our of your school His girlfriend and 15 others came including Hiself... The girl and 2 others just said look around nobody likes you Infront of my new school (50) people... A guy than yelled just punch her already So she did.. She threw me to the ground a punched me several times Kids filmed it. I was all alone and left on the ground. I felt like a joke in this world... I thought nobody deserves this :/ I was alone..I lied and said it was my fault and my idea I didn't want him getting hurt, I thought he really liked me but he just wanted the sex... Someone yelled punch her already Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me. I wanted to die so bad... when he brought me home I drank bleach... It killed me inside and I thought I was gonna actully die Ambulence came and brought me to the hospital and flushed me After I got home all I saw was on facebook - She deserved it, did you wash the mud out of your hair? = I hope shes dead. nobody cared... I moved away to another city to my moms another school... I didnt wanna press charged because I wanted to move on. 6 months has gone by... people are posting the pics of bleach, clorex and ditches tagging me... I was doing alot better too... They said... She should try a different bleach, I hope she dies this time and isn't so stupid. They said I hope she sees this and kills herself. Why do I get this? I messed up but why follow me. I left your guys city... Im constanty crying now.. Everyday I think why am I still here? My anxiety is horrible now.. never went out this summer All from my past.. lifes never getting better.. cant go to school meet or be with people... constantly cutting. Im really depressed Im on anti deppresants now and councelling and a month ago this summer I overdosed... in hospital for 2 days Im stuck... whats left of me now... nothing stops I have nobody... I need someone =( my name is Amanda Todd.... Video summary: + Show Spoiler +
Her video comment during the posting of the video (she commits suicide 1 month later) + Show Spoiler + I'm struggling to stay in this world, because everything just touches me so deeply. I'm not doing this for attention. I'm doing this to be an inspiration and to show that I can be strong. I did things to myself to make pain go away, because I'd rather hurt myself then someone else. Haters are haters but please don't hate, although im sure I'll get them. I hope I can show you guys that everyone has a story, and everyones future will be bright one day, you just gotta pull through. I'm still here aren't I ? -AmandaTodd | ||
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S:klogW
Austria657 Posts
How low can people go? God what world do we live in anymore! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:41 sunprince wrote: It's not grounds for it, but it can lead to it. Just like taking a stroll through gang territory at 2 am isn't grounds for being assaulted, but can lead to it. Oh boy, here it comes. We teach children to be wary of strangers because we somehow expect children to play a part in keeping themselves safe from pedophiles. No one screams that PSA ads on stranger danger equate to blaming children for their own victimization. No one claims that a kid who ignored the advice and got molested as a result will blame himself whenever he hears someone say, "Don't take candy from strangers," so we should never, ever say that stuff to any children, ever. Ok, so now, when a child who has been told not to take candy from strangers takes candy from strangers and dies by poisoning, you want the dead child to take responsibility for its actions? That it deserves any of the blame for the wrongdoing of others? Of course it's wise to advise caution, it's not a grounds for blaming the victim for the acts of the cruel. Yet when it comes to telling women that exercising restraint in the expression of their sexuality will help minimize their risk of sexual assault/harassment, this is treated as blaming them, and telling women they were asking for it. Oh my sweet lord. You are literally championing victim blaming and the repression of women. The truth is, women should be able to dress however they want, and they can dress however they want--but when they do, it's only wise to minimize their other risk factors to compensate. In other words, if you're going to behave in ways that attract a lot of sexual attention from a lot of men (flashing people online), you should not make yourself vulnerable or an easy target (giving away your personal info). Conversely, you're going to behave in ways that make you vulnerable, you shouldn't behave in ways that attract everyone's attention, because a single bad person could target you. Look at you, right here, contradicting yourself. The cognitive dissonance is amazing. "Women should be able to dress however they want" which I also take as women should be able to express themselves as they see fit (so long as it doesn't harm others, golden rule), and you instantly turn around and say don't make yourself vulnerable because there are bad people and you should live in fear. No, it's not. The depraved mindset is that of white knights who think it's okay to discourage others from taking responsibility for their own behavior, and in doing so encourage others to put themselves in danger. I am not whiteknighting this girl. I even said what she did was stupid, from a common sense standpoint -- only that the level of her mistake did not fit the level of repercussions, and quite frankly, anything short of mild embarassment and quick fade into history is too much for something so trivial. I am specifically calling the mindset of people like you abhorrent. That said, I'd rather be a whiteknight for a bullied, suicidal girl than a pompous know it all who blames her for making a mistake and being extorted and assaulted into suicidal depression. Yeah, I hate irresponsible white knight scum that thinks they're better than people who do understand personal responsibility. Bwahaha. Classic. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
I dunno, I certainly feel bad for the friends and family of the girl, it's Amanda herself that I'm on the fence about. A lot of people like to flock to defend the victim for these types of stories but at the end of the day, if theres anything to be learned, is that it takes two to tango. Fixing the issue involves fixing society as well as growing some skin while you're at it, yet for some reason people react violently when the latter is brought up. | ||
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:24 Jojo131 wrote: I dunno, I certainly feel bad for the friends and family of the girl, it's Amanda herself that I'm on the fence about. A lot of people like to flock to defend the victim for these types of stories but at the end of the day, if theres anything to be learned, is that it takes two to tango. Fixing the issue involves fixing society as well as growing some skin while you're at it, yet for some reason people react violently when the latter is brought up. It would've been much better if she had thicker skin and could've coped better with the humiliation rather than take her life. She's not a bad person for being more emotionally frail than you might imagine yourself and others to be. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: It would've been much better if she had thicker skin and could've coped better with the humiliation rather than take her life. She's not a bad person for being more emotionally frail than you might imagine yourself and others to be. Yes I agree. | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
I guess the parents did do something by changing schools but they should've got her some professional counseling. They should be super overprotecting after the first suicide attempt... Can you imagine your child attempting to commit suicide? I would freak out and do everything I can to make sure it doesn't happen again. We don't know whether or not the parents did go through with help but she never mentions anything about parents. lots of kids on TL still in grade school. Please treat your peers with respect. If you're doing something to others that you wouldn't do to your own friends/self. Don't do it. RIP Amanda Todd | ||
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Rasmuth
Greece5 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:29 TwoToneTerran wrote: It would've been much better if she had thicker skin and could've coped better with the humiliation rather than take her life. She's not a bad person for being more emotionally frail than you might imagine yourself and others to be. I don't think she's a bad person, I'm just finding it difficult to feel sorry for her over her friends and family. Also, love the cute passive aggression over the internet. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:50 Jojo131 wrote: I don't think she's a bad person, I'm just finding it difficult to feel sorry for her over her friends and family. Also, love the cute passive aggression over the internet. It's easy to feel worse for the family now, they're the ones who are having a bad time. But I think if you're honest with yourself you'll give some thought to how she felt before she killed herself. Being healthy ourselves, I bet we can't even imagine what it feels like to be in such emotional pain that suicide seems like the only way to go. The fact that we can't even imagine it should be a clue about how hard it must have been for us while she was struggling with the idea of suicide. Some people will argue that it was irrational of her, but the fact that her pain may have been irrational doesn't change how intense it felt for her. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:50 Jojo131 wrote: I don't think she's a bad person, I'm just finding it difficult to feel sorry for her over her friends and family. Also, love the cute passive aggression over the internet. To an extent, it's pointless to feel sorry for the dead -- sympathy is more your own mechanism for coping with a story you have empathy towards, and there's no obligation to ever feel that. It's more about being outraged at the people and the condition of society that allows these things to happen, and the thought processes that waive it off as her fault. I took a keen eye to you saying thicker skin, though. Until you live her exact situation, that's an unfair statement to make. By the way, you do realize your last statement itself was cute passive aggression, no? :p | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:41 sunprince wrote: Yeah, I hate irresponsible white knight scum that thinks they're better than people who do understand personal responsibility. One Word: THIRTEEN. [Defacer drops mic. Internet applauds.] | ||
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