EPTBullied teenager, Amanda Todd story (suicide) - Page 15
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
I remember watching that video a while back when it was first posted and I felt so bad for her after watching it I wish that I could have done something. I hope that there are things that can prevent these sort of tragedies but as a society we're doing a pretty bad job at it. No one should be treated that way, no matter what they've done. It's inhuman. My condolences go out to the family. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:46 Northern_iight wrote: Sad story. Could say I've been bullied when I was young and I've also done my share of bullying. Although what this girl faced must of been really hit her hard mentally. The harassment mentioned are very harsh. I guess it isn't easy for teenagers to delete their facebook/social media accounts because they want to stay "cool". But it's what she should've done. Some much can be discussed but no one has the facts. I guess the parents did do something by changing schools but they should've got her some professional counseling. They should be super overprotecting after the first suicide attempt... Can you imagine your child attempting to commit suicide? I would freak out and do everything I can to make sure it doesn't happen again. We don't know whether or not the parents did go through with help but she never mentions anything about parents. lots of kids on TL still in grade school. Please treat your peers with respect. If you're doing something to others that you wouldn't do to your own friends/self. Don't do it. RIP Amanda Todd I dont know if it's just me, or if I'll feel like this more when I'm older, but this is always the usual response from most parents and one of the worst responses to make imo. A lot of my friends that went through similar troubles never spoke with their parents because this type of attitude deterred them from doing so. Usually there isn't an issue with the kid, it's that the kid is currently dealing with an issue, they're different. The last thing I'd want to do to make my kid feel less socially awkward is send him/her to a shrink... | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
i'm one of those guys who argue with people in youtube comments (about politics and shit) and it's kind of like a hobby for me lol. i don't walk away from the computer "MAN FUCK THIS GUY, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE THINKS THAT". it doesn't affect my actual life in the least. User was banned for this post. | ||
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Norada
China482 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:06 Silidons wrote: i'm sorry but if you can't take people trolling you over the internet, life is going to get insanely harder. it's a shame that she killed herself, but seriously people need to learn that taking anything serious over the internet is not the right way to go about things. i'm one of those guys who argue with people in youtube comments (about politics and shit) and it's kind of like a hobby for me lol. i don't walk away from the computer "MAN FUCK THIS GUY, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE THINKS THAT". it doesn't affect my actual life in the least. She wasn't trolled over the internet. She was ostracized and bullied at school when people found out about her flashing a dude on camera online, and said dude spread it to everyone in her school via social networking. Did you even give the slightest look at the OP? | ||
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Zeller
United States1109 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:06 Silidons wrote: i'm sorry but if you can't take people trolling you over the internet, life is going to get insanely harder. it's a shame that she killed herself, but seriously people need to learn that taking anything serious over the internet is not the right way to go about things. i'm one of those guys who argue with people in youtube comments (about politics and shit) and it's kind of like a hobby for me lol. i don't walk away from the computer "MAN FUCK THIS GUY, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE THINKS THAT". it doesn't affect my actual life in the least. ......He sent a naked photo of a 14 year old girl to all of her classmates | ||
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Zeller
United States1109 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:09 TwoToneTerran wrote: She wasn't trolled over the internet. She was ostracized and bullied at school when people found out about her flashing a dude on camera online, and said dude spread it to everyone in her school via social networking. Did you even give the slightest look at the OP? I don't think he has any comprehension of the situation at all | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:09 TwoToneTerran wrote: She wasn't trolled over the internet. She was ostracized and bullied at school when people found out about her flashing a dude on camera online, and said dude spread it to everyone in her school via social networking. Did you even give the slightest look at the OP? Yeah Just finished reading the rest, she was in a tough situation, but obviously there could have been a better outcome to all of this. It's hard to get out of a situation like that once you're in it, I would have called the police and have them handle it I suppose. Actually a similar type of thing happened at my high school few years ago. A picture of a girl from the school was sent to everyone and she was naked, and it got even worse because a friend of mine trolled a substitute teacher because another student had just got their phone taken away by him, and so my friend sent him the picture of that girl and the sub opened it up and looked at it. I don't think it's the end of the world for nude pictures to get surfaced anymore, I mean it sure would be embarrassing but people need to realize that if you do take nude pictures, either of yourself or letting another take the pictures, chances are other people are going to see them. | ||
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theslayer922
Canada304 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:15 Silidons wrote: Yeah Just finished reading the rest, she was in a tough situation, but obviously there could have been a better outcome to all of this. It's hard to get out of a situation like that once you're in it, I would have called the police and have them handle it I suppose. Actually a similar type of thing happened at my high school few years ago. A picture of a girl from the school was sent to everyone and she was naked, and it got even worse because a friend of mine trolled a substitute teacher because another student had just got their phone taken away by him, and so my friend sent him the picture of that girl and the sub opened it up and looked at it. I don't think it's the end of the world for nude pictures to get surfaced anymore, I mean it sure would be embarrassing but people need to realize that if you do take nude pictures, either of yourself or letting another take the pictures, chances are other people are going to see them. Obviously. Hindsight is always 20-20 as they say. The fact of the matter is that the bullying lead to this, whether or not the correct decision was made is besides the point. Attacking the disease and not the symptoms is what needs to happen here. | ||
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Christ the Redeemer
Brazil161 Posts
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:50 Jojo131 wrote: I don't think she's a bad person, I'm just finding it difficult to feel sorry for her over her friends and family. Also, love the cute passive aggression over the internet. I think your view is messed up and delusional. I also don't know what you mean by friends, she had none. You'd kill yourself if you were the last man on earth. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
moving a second time is weird, because people finding out at your new school that you have one (VERY tame) topless pic is hardly enough to ruin your life or have any impact whatsoever really. so it seems like they jumped the gun and had plans to move out of town anyway here. ps young girls camming is really common, by no means necessarily an abusive event, no more than them choosing to wear skirts and heels and showing off irl. its freakin weird how the pic leaked, either it came through 4chan or that asshole really did threaten her and follow through with his threat. whether they left the schools/town because they thought she was being stalked irl was not indicated so i would rule that out. she now mentions alcohol, but it doesnt come up again. i would have said alcohol was a huge contributing factor to someones depression and demise, but she doesnt mention it more than that tiny reference. alcoholics will definately hide the fact that they are alcoholic and that it affects them greatly, but i dont necessarily see her becoming alcoholic as a loner 14-15yo who lives with parent and goes to school. so i feel like ruling out alcohol too now the really messed up shit starts and follows with her suicide attempt. i think everything up until now feels to me like she is coping alright on the whole. so a tame nude got shown, its really tame... she moved schools, i think she was going to anyway... but now she gets into a sexual and emotional relationship. this is the killer, for everyone. falling in love, being heartbroken. this is enough to really FUCK with someone. everything that happened before is irrelevent. now throw in a traumatic event of being beaten up with the dire trauma of heartbreak and betrayal...this alone is a recipe for danger to the girl, her whole life story is relevent, it shows all her pain bit by bit. she wanted to show all the miserable things that happened to her. BUT to the relevence of her suicidal state, the whole crap about the nude pic, stalker, changing schools, i think is negligable. you can cut all that out from the story. it boils down to , lonely new girl at school gets heartfucked and beaten up (which makes the heartfucking worse). as for the following facebook shit? well thats horrible. she was heartfucked and physically beaten and emotionally ravaged. her suicide was the direct result of that small group of people who done those actions. its nothing to do with "the internet" or any other dumb shit people are talking about for some reason. most people can survive getting heartbroken, but compound it with being beaten and tormented when you are at your emotionally weakest and in absolute despair, it is easy to be pushed to the point of no return. throw in isolation/loneliness (and mayyybe alcohol) then its practically likely that a person would not survive. | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:38 FeUerFlieGe wrote: I think your view is messed up and delusional. I also don't know what you mean by friends, she had none. You'd kill yourself if you were the last man on earth. Lol, well thanks for sharing? I dont know what that last part has to do with anything, cut the hyperbole. | ||
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TapetalKarma
United States127 Posts
the blame goes just as much to her as everyone else. anyone raised even half right gets warned about the interwebs and not giving out info.. she did EVERYTHING i would hate my daughter for. i want boys for this very reason. im sorry i sound harsh but.. its not their fault she put herself in that position. they didnt have to take advantage of it but they did. and she killed herself over a mistake she made.. lesson learned for others hopfully... yet hundreds of other girls will find themselfs in the same spot | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:52 TapetalKarma wrote: the death is sad buyt the blame goes just as much to her as everyone else. No she isn't, this is absurd to say. anyone raised even half right gets warned about the interwebs and not giving out info.. she did EVERYTHING i would hate my daughter for. i want boys for this very reason. Sexist follow up. Do not raise your children to believe it's right to blame victims for being abused. You would also be a horrible parent if you HATED your daughter for showing her breasts on the internet. That's an astounding lack of compassion and understanding of adolescent sexuality. im sorry i sound harsh but.. It's not about being harsh, it's about stating an opinion that's backwards, unfair, and misogynistic. its not their fault she put herself in that position. they didnt have to take advantage of it but they did. There is no position she put herself in. It is entirely the actions of the culpable that creates the horrific position. and she killed herself over a mistake she made.. Teenage girls do not kill themselves because they showed their breasts to one person. They kill themselves because society shames, ostracizes and extorts them for doing something so trivial. lesson learned for others hopfully... yet hundreds of other girls will find themselfs in the same spot You need to seriously rethink how you view both women and criminals. | ||
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Alex1Sun
494 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: No matter how many mistakes she made nothing can ever justify extortion of a kid. By the time she hooked up with that guy she was probably completely messed up already. I agree. We all make mistakes, and she did several relatively minor mistakes. If you are making a minor mistake, you should be given a second chance. If it does not happen, then all those who refuse to give you a second chance or don't offer enough help are guilty as well. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:52 TapetalKarma wrote: the death is sad buyt the blame goes just as much to her as everyone else. anyone raised even half right gets warned about the interwebs and not giving out info.. she did EVERYTHING i would hate my daughter for. i want boys for this very reason. im sorry i sound harsh but.. its not their fault she put herself in that position. they didnt have to take advantage of it but they did. and she killed herself over a mistake she made.. lesson learned for others hopfully... yet hundreds of other girls will find themselfs in the same spot well she fucked someone's guy. it was a mistake because the girl she crossed killed her. a real tragedy. if she was stabbed with a knife out of revenge then it would be no different. | ||
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Braric
Canada184 Posts
The fact that people are blaming this girl for her outcome are obviously quiet oblivious to what depression is and can do to you, everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect but to have your whole god damn life ruined over one small feeble mistake is sickening. FYI everyone gets horny and does stupid things because of it, it's part of life. It's sad that most girls will never know men to be anything but abusive assholes and pricks who are just using them. Humanity as a whole is supposed to progressing forward in evolution but when I read about shit like this it seems quiet the opposite. | ||
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