EPTKids will be kids, and we shouldn't let them.(Right Guys? Right? It wasn't her fault...right?)
Bullied teenager, Amanda Todd story (suicide) - Page 16
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
Kids will be kids, and we shouldn't let them.(Right Guys? Right? It wasn't her fault...right?) | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 13:43 Bippzy wrote: This is the "Lord of the Flies" Theory proving itself again and again. Kids will be kids, and we shouldn't let them.(Right Guys? Right? It wasn't her fault...right?) Definitely not entirely. She's the one who committed the final act, yes, but the things leading to it were the fault of others. What are you trying to say, that there's nothing we can even try to do in order to prevent these things from happening? I don't get it. Just because it's typical for youngin's to be cruel doesn't mean that we should let little girls suffer this much because of it. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
He specifically said kids will be kids (evil, hateful, hurtful beings), and that we shouldn't let them [be kids]. | ||
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Zahir
United States947 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On October 13 2012 14:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: He was trying to confirm with the audience (us) that she is not to blame, and then questions himself because there is a large portion of replys in this thread that blame her for the things that happened. He specifically said kids will be kids (evil, hateful, hurtful beings), and that we shouldn't let them [be kids]. His writing style confused me I guess. "It wasn't her fault...right?" seemed sarcastic to my eye. My bad. | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On October 13 2012 14:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: He was trying to confirm with the audience (us) that she is not to blame, and then questions himself because there is a large portion of replies in this thread that blame her for the things that happened. He specifically said kids will be kids (evil, hateful, hurtful beings), and that we shouldn't let them [be kids]. Kids are selfish lazy bastards at a young age and we have to make them understand that they have to be nice to each other to function in a society. This works by forcing them to get used to doing things they dont like and to do things for others although the word "force" can go to the wrong extremes it doesnt have to. Sadly however - since the '68 revolution - there has been a different trend in letting "kids be kids" and to allow them their freedom to develop themselves. This is all bullshit, because the childs selfishness will not unlearn itself and it is easiest to learn these things in a young age. Sure, some kids learn to be nice to others by themselves, but most dont. The worst kinds of selfish idiots then become financial managers to become rich by treating others poorly and thus ruin all our lives. | ||
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forestry
95 Posts
On October 13 2012 07:38 SimDawg wrote: Yeah that fucker needs to be shot in the head, he definitely seemed like an adult. I'd do it with no remorse. Some people just don't deserve to be part of the human race. seems like something an iextremist would do... | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote: Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. Agreed. | ||
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Braric
Canada184 Posts
As someone who has went through something similar and experienced depression, believe me suicide is by no means stupid, juvenile and selfish. Trust me if you live in total social isolation because your afraid of being mistreated, unfairly judged, and bullied your options seem to be very limited and almost anyone would pull the plug at that point. Please don't talk down on things you know nothing about. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:19 saltywet wrote: every word in her video + Show Spoiler + Hello! Ive decided to tell you about my never ending story In 7th grade I would go with friends on webcam meet and talk to new people. Then got called stunning, beautiful, perfect, etc Then wanted me to flash... So I did... 1 year later... I got a msg on facebook From him... Don't know how he knew me.. It said... If you don't put on a show for me I will send ur boobs He knew my adress. School, relatives, friends family names. Christmas break.... Knock at my door at 4am... It was the police... my photo was sent to everyone I then got really sick and got... Anxiety, major deppresion and panic disorder I then moved and got into Drugs + Alcohol .... My anxiety got worse... couldn't go out A year past and the guy came back with my new list of friends and school. But made a facebook page My boobs were his profile pic... Cried every night, lost all my friends and respect people had for me... again... Then nobody liked me name calling, Judged... I can never get that photo back It's out there forever... I started cutting... I promised myself never again... Didn't have any friends and I sat at lunch alone So I moved Schools again.... Everything was better even though I sat still alone at lunch in the library everyday. After a month later I stated talking to an old guy friend We back and fourth texted and he started to say he.. Liked me...Led me on.. He had a girlfriend then he said come over my gf's on vacation So I did... huge mistake.... He hooked up with me.... I thought he liked me.... 1 week later I get a text get our of your school His girlfriend and 15 others came including Hiself... The girl and 2 others just said look around nobody likes you Infront of my new school (50) people... A guy than yelled just punch her already So she did.. She threw me to the ground a punched me several times Kids filmed it. I was all alone and left on the ground. I felt like a joke in this world... I thought nobody deserves this :/ I was alone..I lied and said it was my fault and my idea I didn't want him getting hurt, I thought he really liked me but he just wanted the sex... Someone yelled punch her already Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me. I wanted to die so bad... when he brought me home I drank bleach... It killed me inside and I thought I was gonna actully die Ambulence came and brought me to the hospital and flushed me After I got home all I saw was on facebook - She deserved it, did you wash the mud out of your hair? = I hope shes dead. nobody cared... I moved away to another city to my moms another school... I didnt wanna press charged because I wanted to move on. 6 months has gone by... people are posting the pics of bleach, clorex and ditches tagging me... I was doing alot better too... They said... She should try a different bleach, I hope she dies this time and isn't so stupid. They said I hope she sees this and kills herself. Why do I get this? I messed up but why follow me. I left your guys city... Im constanty crying now.. Everyday I think why am I still here? My anxiety is horrible now.. never went out this summer All from my past.. lifes never getting better.. cant go to school meet or be with people... constantly cutting. Im really depressed Im on anti deppresants now and councelling and a month ago this summer I overdosed... in hospital for 2 days Im stuck... whats left of me now... nothing stops I have nobody... I need someone =( my name is Amanda Todd.... Video summary: + Show Spoiler +
Her video comment during the posting of the video (she commits suicide 1 month later) + Show Spoiler + I'm struggling to stay in this world, because everything just touches me so deeply. I'm not doing this for attention. I'm doing this to be an inspiration and to show that I can be strong. I did things to myself to make pain go away, because I'd rather hurt myself then someone else. Haters are haters but please don't hate, although im sure I'll get them. I hope I can show you guys that everyone has a story, and everyones future will be bright one day, you just gotta pull through. I'm still here aren't I ? -AmandaTodd Thanks for this and her youtube comment about still being here is the saddest one  Read all comments, sad to see that a lot put the blame on her. Yes, she made mistakes with the flashing and hooking up with the guy but its safe to say that when she hooked up with him, she was emotionally fragile and needed someone and if what she says is true, she thought he liked her and such. Not trying to justify her decision to have sex with him but it looks like she was led on. Poor thing, depression and anxiety are really hard to deal with and suicide is no laughing matter either. RIP Amanda | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:06 Silidons wrote: i'm sorry but if you can't take people trolling you over the internet, life is going to get insanely harder. it's a shame that she killed herself, but seriously people need to learn that taking anything serious over the internet is not the right way to go about things. i'm one of those guys who argue with people in youtube comments (about politics and shit) and it's kind of like a hobby for me lol. i don't walk away from the computer "MAN FUCK THIS GUY, I CAN'T BELIEVE HE THINKS THAT". it doesn't affect my actual life in the least. User was banned for this post. You don't even understand how it ruined her life. I'm glad you were banned. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Hot damn it was worse than I thought based on this photo. This makes my school look like the happiest, most tolerant community on Earth in comparison. These kids need help. I still stand neutrally on Amanda's death however. Indeed, this kind of shit is downright depressing... Wow, so many sad stories like these | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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whyyousojelly
Bosnia-Herzegovina46 Posts
On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote: Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. This. There are always hundreds of different ways to solve problems and suicide is by far the most retarded one. And also to people who will claim that there's nothing you can do if you are being bullied, you are a flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society. There's always a way if you want it to be. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:34 whyyousojelly wrote: This. There are always hundreds of different ways to solve problems and suicide is by far the most retarded one. And also to people who will claim that there's nothing you can do if you are being bullied, you are a flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society. There's always a way if you want it to be. If you're being bullied by just a couple people sure, but if everyone around you ostracizes you even after repeatedly moving schools/town, I'm not sure what she could have done. I haven't been in her position and not many people can honestly say they have, so unless you can speak from personal experience I don't see how she could stop the bullying. | ||
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whyyousojelly
Bosnia-Herzegovina46 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:39 teamsolid wrote: If you're being bullied by just a couple people sure, but if everyone around you ostracizes you even after repeatedly moving schools/town, I'm not sure what she could have done. I haven't been in her position and not many people can honestly say they have, so unless you can speak from personal experience I don't see how she could stop the bullying. Well the first thing she could have done was to not kill herself because that's the most retarded thing you can do. Also do you honestly believe that all people in the world hated on her or it was just her perception. I believe the second is way more possible. She was obviously mentally deranged and it was her parents fault not to find her a proper treatment. đ Also she was camwhoring at 13. Karma police. This is what you get when you mess with us. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:43 whyyousojelly wrote: Well the first thing she could have done was to not kill herself because that's the most retarded thing you can do. Also do you honestly believe that all people in the world hated on her or it was just her perception. I believe the second is way more possible. She was obviously mentally deranged and it was her parents fault not to find her a proper treatment. đ Also she was camwhoring at 13. Karma police. This is what you get when you mess with us. I think people really did hate her. Just look at some of the comments on her Youtube video, esp the ones from people who claim to live near her. So no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. Who cares that she cam whored at 13? Seemed like it was just a mistake, kids are dumb | ||
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whyyousojelly
Bosnia-Herzegovina46 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:54 teamsolid wrote: I think people really did hate her. Just look at some of the comments on her Youtube video, esp the ones from people who claim to live near her. So no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I have enough fate in human society that I believe that all people didn't hate her and if you really think differently you are free to make youtube video with slides about it and take a stairway to heaven. Earth must be a really cold place for you. | ||
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Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 13 2012 16:56 whyyousojelly wrote: I have enough fate in human society that I believe that all people didn't hate her and if you really think differently you are free to make youtube video with slides about it and take a stairway to heaven. Earth must be a really cold place for you. I never said that "all" people hated her, just that enough of them did that the average person didn't want to interact with her. I think this much is obvious. This has nothing to do with "faith" in human society just read the comments yourself. And what the f*** is wrong with you, why are you harping about me now. I think differently from you so you think I should kill myself too? Is that to make yourself feel better? Kindly go f*** yourself. People who think like you don't even deserve to breath the air in this world. | ||
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