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On October 13 2012 16:56 whyyousojelly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 16:54 teamsolid wrote:On October 13 2012 16:43 whyyousojelly wrote:On October 13 2012 16:39 teamsolid wrote:On October 13 2012 16:34 whyyousojelly wrote:On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote:
Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. This. There are always hundreds of different ways to solve problems and suicide is by far the most retarded one. And also to people who will claim that there's nothing you can do if you are being bullied, you are a flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society. There's always a way if you want it to be. If you're being bullied by just a couple people sure, but if everyone around you ostracizes you even after repeatedly moving schools/town, I'm not sure what she could have done. I haven't been in her position and not many people can honestly say they have, so unless you can speak from personal experience I don't see how she could stop the bullying. Well the first thing she could have done was to not kill herself because that's the most retarded thing you can do. Also do you honestly believe that all people in the world hated on her or it was just her perception. I believe the second is way more possible. She was obviously mentally deranged and it was her parents fault not to find her a proper treatment. đ Also she was camwhoring at 13. Karma police. This is what you get when you mess with us. I think people really did hate her. Just look at some of the comments on her Youtube video, esp the ones from people who claim to live near her. So no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I have enough fate in human society that I believe that all people didn't hate her and if you really think differently you are free to make youtube video with slides about it and take a stairway to heaven. Earth must be a really cold place for you.
Not to be cynical but just observing things in my everyday life I feel like people mainly the younger generation really are just terrible people
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I'm going to speak frankly.
It's horrible that she died, and the only reasonable way to prevent such incidents from occurring in the future is to educate children of internet age about how to protect themselves online. The alternative is censorship, which opens up a can of worms that I don't think anyone is prepared to deal with. I hate to say things like this because it sounds like blaming the victim, but the point of governance is to protect people with the maximum amount of efficiency and the minimum restriction on elemental freedoms. In this case, the path of least resistance is making sure that our children understand how to be safe on the internet. This doesn't just apply to things like keeping your identity and compromising information secret, but also to things like not clicking on suspicious links, what scams look like, and so on. This is all very important information in, well, the information age. Just like we had to teach kids to look both ways before they cross the street when cars got introduced, now we have to teach them to be careful online.
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On October 13 2012 16:34 whyyousojelly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote:
Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. This. There are always hundreds of different ways to solve problems and suicide is by far the most retarded one. And also to people who will claim that there's nothing you can do if you are being bullied, you are a flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society. There's always a way if you want it to be.
You realize you just said a 15 year old who was both physically and mentally assaulted, made the most "retarded" choice out of hundreds of choices? Just read that over to yourself a couple of times and really comprehend what you've posted on a public forum. Quite fucking clearly from the perspective of an adult who isn't being bullied there are other options for a girl like Amanda, but she was 15, with a broken family and no friends... So before you call others "flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society", maybe you should learn to be more empathetic. And ffs show some respect for the dead, asshole.
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On October 13 2012 16:43 whyyousojelly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 16:39 teamsolid wrote:On October 13 2012 16:34 whyyousojelly wrote:On October 13 2012 04:13 Fallians wrote:
Killing yourself is never the answer to this, despite how bad this girl had it taking her own life was absolutely stupid, juvenile and selfish. This. There are always hundreds of different ways to solve problems and suicide is by far the most retarded one. And also to people who will claim that there's nothing you can do if you are being bullied, you are a flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society. There's always a way if you want it to be. If you're being bullied by just a couple people sure, but if everyone around you ostracizes you even after repeatedly moving schools/town, I'm not sure what she could have done. I haven't been in her position and not many people can honestly say they have, so unless you can speak from personal experience I don't see how she could stop the bullying. Well the first thing she could have done was to not kill herself because that's the most retarded thing you can do. Also do you honestly believe that all people in the world hated on her or it was just her perception. I believe the second is way more possible. She was obviously mentally deranged and it was her parents fault not to find her a proper treatment. đ Also she was camwhoring at 13. Karma police. This is what you get when you mess with us.
So true. Come over here to Vancouver and share your views. We'll see what karma does.
It's highly amusing that people talk about her or her parents taking 'responsibility' but don't seem to care if people that harassed her, beat her or tried to extort a fourteen year-old girl are held accountable for their actions.
People like this have their heads so far up their fucking asses that their sense of self-superiority must smell like shit.
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I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
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On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
Wow, if that's true I have never heard of kids being any more evil than that. What is the most shocking to me is that these kids are around 14-18 years old, that's just twisted. Sometimes I wish I believed in hell, or something similar, because clearly some people deserve it.
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On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
That makes me sick...
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On October 13 2012 17:21 knOxStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
Wow, if that's true I have never heard of kids being any more evil than that. What is the most shocking to me is that these kids are around 14-18 years old, that's just twisted. Sometimes I wish I believed in hell, or something similar, because clearly some people deserve it.
If this "party" goes down lets just say what comes around will come around with an iron fist.
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On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
I would very much like a source on that. That's something very, VERY extreme, and I'm tentative to take it without some evidence.
If it is true, I'm liable to say something just as extreme in return.
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On October 13 2012 17:27 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
I would very much like a source on that. That's something very, VERY extreme, and I'm tentative to take it without some evidence. If it is true, I'm liable to say something just as extreme in return.
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/11d4h9/weeks_after_posting_a_haunting_youtube_video_on/c6lmnw9
Not sure how reputable reddit is as a source..but with the all kinds of fucked up around this story it sounds about right =/
[–]mr_unsatisfied 51 points 9 hours ago
This poor girl lived a few blocks away from my mothers house. She was threatened to show her body on webcam or else have her photos plastered all over the school. This is how aggressive kids have gotten over the years. I will give the name of the school were she was bullied so some of these kids can get it through their heads that this is not funny. Dr. Charles Best Secondary school. Just to give you a sense at how messed up some of these kids are, they had a party when they found out she hung herself! Schools are afraid to discipline these kinds of actions, because of potential law suits from the parents. The police seem to turn their heads to such activity in the schools. We have to realize that they will be the future drug dealers on the streets if there is no drastic punishment for these types of serious actions. Bullying will not go away if we let them do as they wish in the hallways! RIP Amanda Todd and to everyone that partied after her death, your time will come that someone will party when you kill yourself as well!
[–]exleyman 1 point 1 hour ago
The party is tonight, I heard about it at school this morning.
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Such a tragedy. Its such a shame that she had to be in that environment, seems like she was such a nice person.
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On October 13 2012 17:15 pookadin wrote:
I read in a Reddit post comments from kids who went to her school and neighboring schools, that they are having a party to celebrate her death. WTF..
Holy shit...
So i graduated highschool 2 years ago on the outskirts of Vancouver. When we had the scandal in our school the police and our vice principal were legally allowed to hack into accounts to find the nude picture of the lgs. I can't imagine this kind of shit going on. Like the talks of her attempted suicide and this party. I can't imagine it at all.
We had next to no bullying in my year. Some people got a bit of ribbing after parties (making out with someone, passing out, getting way too drunk) but it was 99% just friendly joking. Most of our grad class were all friendly with each other and this was a class of 100+ people. This is just unreal...
No one is blaming the victim. If you leave a hundred dollar bill, sunglasses, aftermarket radio, laptop, goldbricks sitting visible in your car in a high high crime rate area is that not incredibly stupid? Your putting yourself at so much risk. No carhoppet would just get off with saying He was asking for it! That's not what anyone is saying and it's an incredibly pathetic white knight straw man. Sadly you cannot do things like this in reality without a possible consequence because there are fucking disgusting human beings out there. Plugging your ears and going Lalalalalalalala doesn't help anyone.
What people are saying is that there needs to better education for parents and for children to efficiently as possible reduce the risk. The parents and the administration were pathetic. If this girl was being bullied this badly publicly neither clearly did not do their jobs properly. The adminstrarion should have noticed these issues bullying on Facebook is incredibly obvious and if the death celebrations on the attempted suicide should have been a massive sign. Look at that fucking comment on her YouTube "I can't hang on anylonger". How do you miss these massive signs if your keeping a close eye on this clearly troubled poor girl as they should have been when she was already a fucking suicide threat.
You can argue from a fantasy land where your actions dont increase your chance of being a victim of crime but when you hide allyour expensive shit in your car you should think of this post.
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On October 13 2012 04:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No matter how many mistakes she made nothing can ever justify extortion of a kid. By the time she hooked up with that guy she was probably completely messed up already.
Extortion is only part of the problem. Don't forget that people everywhere, her school, community, etc., attacked her for it. No one even sympathized with her or felt the need to help her and stop the bullying. I am baffled that none of the authorities knew about it. We live in a sick society.
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I think I will hold my tongue for now. It is very possible that this is not the case, and as such I don't want to make any inflammatory remarks, no matter how harsh my judgment of such things can be.
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On October 13 2012 17:11 knOxStarcraft wrote:
You realize you just said a 15 year old who was both physically and mentally assaulted, made the most "retarded" choice out of hundreds of choices? Just read that over to yourself a couple of times and really comprehend what you've posted on a public forum. Quite fucking clearly from the perspective of an adult who isn't being bullied there are other options for a girl like Amanda, but she was 15, with a broken family and no friends... So before you call others "flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society", maybe you should learn to be more empathetic. And ffs show some respect for the dead, asshole.
lolz at you people white knighting a dead girl on a starcraft forum. I can't feel empathy for someone who take their own life, might be because of my religious views or because of the way I was raised up and I especially can't feel empathy for a 13 years old camwhore.
A kid dies in Africa because of hunger every 27 seconds. We should have empathy for them. They didn't have a choice or a chance. She had both and she was too retarded to see it.
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Allow me to start with how very unfortunate and sad it is that this young girl has committed suicide.
However we have a very tinted version of the story and I want you all to remember that. Yes her bullies were very much in the wrong and that is beyond doubt. But I think Amanda Todd is much less someone who was severely depressed, more a teenager that got herself into a state over the events that occurred and made a decision to end her life in the heat of the moment.
What stood out at me was how everyone seemed to suddenly know that she drank bleach in the aftermath to the public humiliation, at her new school from the boy she liked and his girlfriend (shown by their posting of stuff like "she should have drunk a better bleach"). Yes these comments are absolutely out of order, but you wonder whether Amanda had said to people "I drank bleach to attempt suicide"? Whether she had a reputation at the school for attention seeking, being a whore (whether justified or not, we don't know all the facts) and anything else.
Remember I'm not condoning the actions of the bullies whatsoever, I just wonder how much Amanda brought the bullying on herself and whether she took her life irrationally and without proper thought. Feel free to disagree with me, I just request that you do it in a composed manner and with solid facts.
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At the video she said she did drugs and alcohol, isnt it right? And she was showing boobs online? Teenagers like this makes me more sick than anything else. Behaving like brats and screaming YOLO and SWAG. For me she is just another spoiled kid and her family is to blame for raising her this way. I am really suprised people give her sympathy. People die everyday and there are kids way younger than this girl who works their ass of every single day for food and you want me to feel sorry for this girl just because she was on the news? No way in hell.
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On October 13 2012 17:35 whyyousojelly wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 17:11 knOxStarcraft wrote:
You realize you just said a 15 year old who was both physically and mentally assaulted, made the most "retarded" choice out of hundreds of choices? Just read that over to yourself a couple of times and really comprehend what you've posted on a public forum. Quite fucking clearly from the perspective of an adult who isn't being bullied there are other options for a girl like Amanda, but she was 15, with a broken family and no friends... So before you call others "flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society", maybe you should learn to be more empathetic. And ffs show some respect for the dead, asshole. lolz at you people white knighting a dead girl on a starcraft forum. I can't feel empathy for someone who take their own life, might be because of my religious views or because of the way I was raised up and I especially can't feel empathy for a 13 years old camwhore. A kid dies in Africa because of hunger every 27 seconds. We should have empathy for them. They didn't have a choice or a chance. She had both and she was too retarded to see it.
If you can't feel empathy for a 15 year old who made some mistakes, and killed herself, then you're a sick, sick human being.
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Maybe I was 100% oblivious but my high school experience was incredibly tame. I can't imagine an entire school going against someone for sharing naked photos of someone. It has been 6 years since I was in high school but damn have things really changed that much?
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On October 13 2012 17:53 knOxStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 17:35 whyyousojelly wrote:On October 13 2012 17:11 knOxStarcraft wrote:
You realize you just said a 15 year old who was both physically and mentally assaulted, made the most "retarded" choice out of hundreds of choices? Just read that over to yourself a couple of times and really comprehend what you've posted on a public forum. Quite fucking clearly from the perspective of an adult who isn't being bullied there are other options for a girl like Amanda, but she was 15, with a broken family and no friends... So before you call others "flaming nerds without any knowledge about human society", maybe you should learn to be more empathetic. And ffs show some respect for the dead, asshole. lolz at you people white knighting a dead girl on a starcraft forum. I can't feel empathy for someone who take their own life, might be because of my religious views or because of the way I was raised up and I especially can't feel empathy for a 13 years old camwhore. A kid dies in Africa because of hunger every 27 seconds. We should have empathy for them. They didn't have a choice or a chance. She had both and she was too retarded to see it. If you can't feel empathy for a 15 year old who made some mistakes, and killed herself, then you're a sick, sick human being.
Dude mistake at 15 y/o is when you forget your homework at home, when you don't prepare enough for test at school or when you dont do the dishes before your parents come back from work. If you do drugs, drink alcohol and show your body to strangers online, what do you expect seriously
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