Or these guys should be charged with invasion of privacy or unsolicited photography when they take creepshots.
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BerkmanZ
United States56 Posts
Or these guys should be charged with invasion of privacy or unsolicited photography when they take creepshots. | ||
RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
Whether his employer was justified in sacking him (issue for employment tribunal) is entirely separate to his right to protection of identity online. I do believe that it is incorrect to actively encourage off-line harassment while divulging a person's identity, and this should be compared to off-line encouragement of harassment of another person, but I defintiely believe that there is no inherent right to protect your name from being displayed online, particularly if this information is already available online (albeit with a bit of investigation) | ||
Ryka
United Kingdom254 Posts
On October 17 2012 02:01 Positronic wrote: You should ask her whether she would care if the photos being taken were without her knowledge or consent, and taken in what could be an explicit manner, along with being prime masturbatory material. If she responds negatively, then I think you may have some justification for feeling that way, but I'm going to make an assumption and say she probably will care. Men don't have to deal with the same things as women on a broad societal basis (personal safety, sexual assault, discrimination, among other things), so I wouldn't extend the notion of others, especially females, sharing your feelings too far. Not sure exactly what you mean by "what could be an explicit manner" as I haven't seen anything I'd consider to be explicit. Care to give an example? PM if necessary. If any of these photos are explicit then I've missed the point of it completely. | ||
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KwarK
United States42251 Posts
On October 17 2012 01:29 rackdude wrote: You know, if you think it's so despicable that you don't want anyone to know about what you're doing... don't do it. If you think what you're doing is right, then you shouldn't care who knows. This is absurd. Everyone has things that they do which they'd not want the rest of the world to do, the majority of which don't hurt anyone else. Saying that if you want to keep something private then it's probably wrong is a horrible repressive mentality. | ||
BerkmanZ
United States56 Posts
On October 17 2012 01:58 Jonas ![]() Nobody questions anything when the paparazzi get PAID to take pictures of famous people without their consent, but all of a sudden when it is not-famous people getting their pictures taken by people who do it only occasionally it is immoral and illegal? Not only that, but it is worth literally ruining 30+ people's lives over? Give me a break. Anyone that supports this sort of behavior needs to re-evaluate their entire world view. Fair point. The paparazzi snap a photo of britney spears not wearing panties and its all over the news. It is indeed questionable behavior. A photographer should respect his subject and use discretion when they get a hold of something that may embarrass someone. It definitely isn't news and it definitely isn't right. Movie stars should be able to sue or be angry like any one else who feels their privacy is violated for monetary gain or just for kicks. | ||
r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
I mean, I think some of those subreddits are disgusting too the big point here is that IF they are, in general, considered to be okay from the reddit.com side (and apparently some of those are), then bitchslapping the people who fill that gap and aim to make it flourish and moderate it properly is the wrong move. Reddit could have removed those subs whenever they pleased - they didn't. Now we're left with a private campaign against one of the moderators sucessfully ruining his life. I completely agreed with the public pressure on /r/Jailbait which resulted in it being closed and the policies on stuff that was in it being reviewed, that's how these things should be handled. Not with withhunts on individuals further down the ladder like that. | ||
Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
The challenge for communities like Reddit — as well as for Pinterest, Instagram, Tumblr and others that have to decide how to regulate the materials passed around their virtual corridors, is to figure out how to please all their members, without driving some of them away. And one has to look only at the previous glory of social giants like Myspace, Friendster and Digg, and at how rarely they are currently mentioned, to understand how fragile the line is between life and death for a site. BUT the larger risk that Reddit runs could be even greater. The harder it fights for its right to publish creepshots, the harder it may be to defend the company from the intervention of governments and regulatory organizations, as well as intellectual-property owners who could interfere with the site if it does not figure out how to regulate itself. Link to article - When the Web's Chaos Takes an Ugly Turn | ||
Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:51 Microchaton wrote: And fucking Adrian Chen did it. I hope the guy gets trampled by ultralisks. Not linking it, basically gawker released everything they could including spamming his name, where he works and his photos on an article. Disgusting. Not surprised. Gawker journalists would sell their mothers for pageviews anyway. On October 17 2012 01:57 floor exercise wrote: I found this gif on the front page of Reddit, is this not an egregious violation of this girl's public privacy? Did she sign a consent form to be filmed? ![]() This gif was obviously made from a TV broadcasting. So what is your suggestion? Prevent TV stations from doing crowd shots? Make everyone entering a stadium sign a consent form? Or just allow it on TV but not on the internet? What about ESPN then since they also stream matches on the web? It just doesn't make sense. When you're at home other people should not be allowed to invade your privacy but when you're in a stadium or at Starbucks you're in a public place so deal with it. | ||
Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On October 17 2012 02:24 Battleaxe wrote: I think TL should institute an anti-reddit policy for anything non SC2 or DOTA2, this shit is just getting stupid. I second this. It's not the asshole of the internet, but it's pretty close to the intestines nonetheless. | ||
Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On October 21 2012 09:23 Matoo- wrote: This gif was obviously made from a TV broadcasting. So what is your suggestion? Prevent TV stations from doing crowd shots? Make everyone entering a stadium sign a consent form? Or just allow it on TV but not on the internet? What about ESPN then since they also stream matches on the web? It just doesn't make sense. When you're at home other people should not be allowed to invade your privacy but when you're in a stadium or at Starbucks you're in a public place so deal with it. By attending a private event like a baseball game, you fall under the rules applied within that space, which often contain the permission to be filmed. The street, on the contrary, are a public spaces, and filming people there requires their explicit authorization, unless you're filming an anonymous crowd. | ||
Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On October 21 2012 09:37 Kukaracha wrote: By attending a private event like a baseball game, you fall under the rules applied within that space, which often contain the permission to be filmed. The street, on the contrary, are a public spaces, and filming people there requires their explicit authorization, unless you're filming an anonymous crowd. If the stadium is privately owned then you are right, they can have their own set of rules. However I don't see any mention of this "anyonymous crowd" stuff in public places, every source I found says that in the USA you can take a picture or video of someone (i.e. it doesn't have to be a "crowd", the picture/video can have a clear focus on one person), as long as they're not children and you're not releasing personal information about them or trying to sell it for money. Do you have a source for what you're saying? | ||
Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On October 21 2012 09:59 Matoo- wrote: If the stadium is privately owned then you are right, they can have their own set of rules. However I don't see any mention of this "anyonymous crowd" stuff in public places, every source I found says that in the USA you can take a picture or video of someone (i.e. it doesn't have to be a "crowd", the picture/video can have a clear focus on one person), as long as they're not children and you're not releasing personal information about them or trying to sell it for money. Do you have a source for what you're saying? Notice he is also from France btw. How is USA that relevant? | ||
Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On October 21 2012 10:05 Roflhaxx wrote: Notice he is also from France btw. How is USA that relevant? The creepy redditor that got outed is from the USA right? Seems logical to me to consider US law. | ||
Elitios
France164 Posts
On the matter, I think both side are equally stupid. _ Everyone should know by now that making people angry by stalking them and laughing about it is asking to get a punch in the face (on the net or IRL). _ Everyone should also know by now that responding to a bully with a bigger bully is a good way to make the level of supidness and violence increase, and to turn the original bully into a martyr.. Conclusion: "Quand on est con on est con" Brassens | ||
corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On October 21 2012 09:37 Kukaracha wrote: The street, on the contrary, are a public spaces, and filming people there requires their explicit authorization, unless you're filming an anonymous crowd. That's actually not true. You're legally allowed to photograph anything visible to the naked eye in a public place as long as you don't use any special equipment (telephoto lens, hidden camera, etc). It's not legal to publish those images, but I'm not convinced that posting the photo to reddit counts as publishing, it's more like sharing. edit: in the US, that is. | ||
AlphaWhale
Australia328 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On October 17 2012 02:08 RoyW wrote: There should be no assumption that a person is entitled to complete anonymity on the internet, particularly when creating and moderating forums called "r/rapebait, r/incest, r/picsofdeadkids, r/jailbait, and r/chokeabitch." Whether his employer was justified in sacking him (issue for employment tribunal) is entirely separate to his right to protection of identity online. I do believe that it is incorrect to actively encourage off-line harassment while divulging a person's identity, and this should be compared to off-line encouragement of harassment of another person, but I defintiely believe that there is no inherent right to protect your name from being displayed online, particularly if this information is already available online (albeit with a bit of investigation) The bolded part is a huge thing in this story. You won't find the guys name in question even via a LOT of investigation. Apparently it had to be some people among the higher up reddit mods who gave Adrien Chen that information, which is simply not acceptable. Especially considering how highly reddit values personal information if you believe their... propaganda. | ||
Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Wow. On October 17 2012 02:07 BerkmanZ wrote: HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET RID OF REDDIT, ALTOGETHER. i mean really can we be mad about it if we subscribe to the site. The site's contents are submitted by its users. Or these guys should be charged with invasion of privacy or unsolicited photography when they take creepshots. I know of no such laws and I challenge you to post them. Also, what a silly argument. If I subscribe to a thread on team liquid I am not liable if a user is banned for an insipid post. If I read the front page of reddit, that doesn't make me a regular on GoneWild. | ||
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