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Positronic
Profile Joined May 2012
121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 00:09:13
October 11 2012 21:17 GMT
#1
On the train. In line at the pharmacy. Even in class. You really never know when someone might snap a picture of you, add a sleazy comment and post it to a highly trafficked site like Reddit to be ogled at by strangers. Don't believe it? It actually happens a lot.

CreepShots, a forum on Reddit devoted to photos taken of women without their knowledge or consent, was recently embroiled in controversy after a teacher was fired for posting a picture of his underage student.

At this time, the sub-Reddit CreepShots has been banned, as has an alternate subReddit, CreepyShots. However CreepSquad, another comparable site, has already cropped up in its place.

Now, a new Tumblr blog hopes to give creepsters a taste of their own medicine.

Predditors -- a play on 'Redditors,' a nickname for users of the site -- posts personal information about CreepShots submitters, including photos, Facebook pages, marital status, location and occupation, and any other identifying details found by sleuthing on the Internet.

According to Jezebel, the creator of the site is a 25-year old woman who wants posters to be held accountable for their creepiness. "Reddit's defense of [CreepShots] is that it's 'technically legal,'" she said. "So I'm doing something that's technically legal, but will result in consequences for their actions. These fuckers think they can get away with it scot free, which is one of the reasons why sexual violence is so prevalent around the world."

The site has named 36 Reddit users since it launched on Sept. 29th.

But some people see a bit of hypocrisy in fighting fire with fire. One Reddit user, who did not want to be named, said he thought labeling users as "sexual predators" was unfair. "There is a line in what a sexual predator is, and taking a photo of a hot girl in public is NOT that," he said. "Creepy, yes."

UPDATE: Tumblr has apparently taken down the Predditors blog. Links to the Tumblr account were down on Thursday morning. Users are sounding off about the presumed takedown. You can read their reactions here.

UPDATE: Reddit and the website Gawker are now sparring over CreepShots. The subReddit r/Politics has banned links to all Gawker content, alleging that Gawker journalist Adrian Chen was threatening to make the identify of the CreepShots moderator public.

Here's how a politics moderator explained the decision:

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As some of you may know, a prominent member of Reddit's community, Violentacrez, deleted his account recently. This was as a result of a 'journalist' seeking out his personal information and threatening to publish it, which would have a significant impact on his life. You can read more about it here.
As moderators, we feel that this type of behavior is completely intolerable. We volunteer our time on Reddit to make it a better place for the users, and should not be harassed and threatened for that. We should all be afraid of the threat of having our personal information investigated and spread around the internet if someone disagrees with you. Reddit prides itself on having a subreddit for everything, and no matter how much anyone may disapprove of what another user subscribes to, that is never a reason to threaten them.


As a result, the moderators of /r/politics have chosen to disallow links from the Gawker network until action is taken to correct this serious lack of ethics and integrity.

We thank you for your understanding.

At least 10 other Reddit sub-forums have followed suit.

Redditors are not letting CreepShots go without a fight. On the new CreepShots forum, CreepSquad, users are warned to "please stay safe" by using an alternative account to post photos.

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To everyone else who is a member here, all I can emphasise is... please stay safe. When posting here, we strongly suggest that you use an alternative account or, at the very least, delete personally identifiable information about you that you may have posted in your comments. You still aren't doing anything illegal.
The Moderators may also take a harder line for your safety. Whenever we can, we will check your profiles for any comments that may personally identify you. You will have your posts removed, you will be banned, and then you will be sent a message asking you to create a new account so you can post here. This is only for your safety.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/11/predditors-tumblr-creepshots-reddit_n_1955897.html

The tumblr in question was accessible until earlier today, but now it asks for a password, presumably to avoid getting more attention after already being shut down once.

Edit: I'm going to add this because I think this point needs to be addressed:

I would just ask whoever is in support of this CreepShots continuing to exist to consider this point:

"But Samantha (OP note: the creator of the Predditor tumblr) believes that CreepShots is a gateway drug to more dangerous hobbies. Fetishizing non-consent "indicates [that CreepShots posters] don't view women as people, and most will not be satisfied with just that level of violation," she said. "I want to make sure that the people around these men know what they're doing so they can reap social, professional, or legal consequences, and possibly save women from future sexual assault. These men are dangerous."


I'm sure some of you have girlfriends. All of you have moms. Some of you have sisters and nieces. Do you really want them, or any women, to have to go through the stress of wondering whether someone in public is going to take a shot of them in a compromising position, then trade it like a baseball card with hundreds of other faceless goons to masturbate to? Along with possible enabling a sexual assault because someone takes it too far?

On October 12 2012 07:22 Stijx wrote:
While it does seem wrong to allow people to post this, I don't think an appropriate response is to real-life witch-hunt the people doing it. These "creeps" can not be paralleled with sexual predators, and certainly don't deserve any violent real-world ramifications for their actions.
Putting pictures, albeit very creepy ones, on the internet of men / women to be appreciated is not the same as putting up pictures of people to be shunned or, in the worst cases, attacked.
I'm glad tumblr took the page down.



Read this post, then consider this point about "creeps" being associated with sexual predators. Many of them probably are, and we just haven't figured it out yet.

Take this fine example:

"One afternoon in late September, Coweta County Sheriff Investigator Jason Fetner asked Christopher Bailey, a 35-year-old substitute teacher at East Coweta High, to meet with him regarding a school theft. But when Bailey arrived, Fetner told him the real reason for their meeting: he knew that Bailey had been posting photos of his students — "Hot senior girl in one of my classes," read one charming caption — on the subreddit r/CreepShots, some of which had been viewed thousands of times.

Most of Bailey's CreepShots contributions were relatively "innocent" (for example, you couldn't see the senior girl's underwear) and therefore legal, but the content Fetner subsequently found on Bailey's cellphone — including multiple texts and nude photos that he sent to girls as young as 16 — were not, and police are now pursuing charges. But how did Fetner know that the substitute teacher with a clean record was a secret sexual predator? Thanks to a tip from a group of anonymous Redditors who are sick of seeing the CreepShots community gleefully post teen upskirt photo after teen upskirt photo while telling the "internet morality police" to "fuck off" and stop ruining their fun."
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
October 11 2012 21:19 GMT
#2
is there anything reddit doesnt have? pictures of underage kids, creepshots...cant picture why that site is so popular..Glad to hear they are shutting stuff down.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 11 2012 21:21 GMT
#3
On October 12 2012 06:19 TheRealArtemis wrote:
is there anything reddit doesnt have? pictures of underage kids, creepshots...cant picture why that site is so popular..Glad to hear they are shutting stuff down.


You said it yourself; reddit has something for everyone, and with the good comes the inevitable bad. Reddit has good sides, trust me, if you know where to find them.
memes are a dish best served dank
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
October 11 2012 21:23 GMT
#4
I love the irony in this situation, a bunch of creeps being angry about having their photos posted online when they've doing the same thing to hundreds of unaware girls for who-knows-how-long
Daudr
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden275 Posts
October 11 2012 21:23 GMT
#5
On October 12 2012 06:19 TheRealArtemis wrote:
cant picture why that site is so popular..


On October 12 2012 06:19 TheRealArtemis wrote:
is there anything reddit doesnt have?


I think you answered your own question. I agree though, it's good that the site is moderated to some extent at least.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 11 2012 21:24 GMT
#6
i know its weird as fuck doing things like this, but this is just one of those things which you are gonna struggle to stop. they can shut down sites and new ones will pop up every day. wild goose chase forever.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 21:28:52
October 11 2012 21:26 GMT
#7
What should probably be added to the story is this fun thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/nsfw/comments/1190xz/mod_post_a_tribute_to_violentacrez_who_was_doxxed/ ... (sfw link)

tl;dr: This Adrian Chen guy threatened the guy who modded all those forums to make his RL hell because he obtained personal information. How much about that is for real, no one knows.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
October 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#8
On October 12 2012 06:19 TheRealArtemis wrote:
is there anything reddit doesnt have? pictures of underage kids, creepshots...cant picture why that site is so popular..Glad to hear they are shutting stuff down.


You just described the internet!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
October 11 2012 21:33 GMT
#9
The internet is getting really scary and creepy.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
October 11 2012 21:35 GMT
#10
I don't know which to regard with more suspicion: the weirdos themselves or the odd vigilante resistance that defends their boards.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
October 11 2012 21:37 GMT
#11
--- Nuked ---
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
October 11 2012 21:38 GMT
#12
On October 12 2012 06:33 Chill wrote:
The internet is getting really scary and creepy.


Its more scary and creepy people who starts to understand how they can use the internet... Well thats fucking weird. But thats it.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 11 2012 21:41 GMT
#13
What a fucked up hobby.

"Hey Bill, so what do you do for fun on weekends?"
"I fish, play basketball, videogames, ya know, usual stuff. What do you do Tim?"
"I take pictures of random women and post them online"
"..."
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
October 11 2012 21:47 GMT
#14
I guess this is what happens when young people gets to dominate an area of society, which the internet is. I'm not pointing fingers to anyone, I'm pretty young myself, just saying there's a disproportionate amount of immature and disrespectful people on the internet, and I guess that's due to the average age. These issues will probably solve themselves as time goes by and the crowd grows up, hopefully before governments strikes down on the internet through excessive law-making.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
October 11 2012 21:50 GMT
#15
On October 12 2012 06:23 BlueLanterna wrote:
I love the irony in this situation, a bunch of creeps being angry about having their photos posted online when they've doing the same thing to hundreds of unaware girls for who-knows-how-long


There is a difference between a photo of a girl in public and your name, address, and private photos.

Honestly this whole thing is stupid, this is why I stay away from reddit.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
October 11 2012 21:52 GMT
#16
The Japanese are feeling pretty hipster right about now.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 23:12:05
October 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#17
Don't we have enough threads on teamliquid discussing questionable subreddits?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369502
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354481
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311354
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240225
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=270602

Just a taste.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
October 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#18
On October 12 2012 06:50 Monochromatic wrote:
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On October 12 2012 06:23 BlueLanterna wrote:
I love the irony in this situation, a bunch of creeps being angry about having their photos posted online when they've doing the same thing to hundreds of unaware girls for who-knows-how-long


There is a difference between a photo of a girl in public and your name, address, and private photos.

Honestly this whole thing is stupid, this is why I stay away from reddit.


Actually none of the information is private, it's all public.
Positronic
Profile Joined May 2012
121 Posts
October 11 2012 22:02 GMT
#19
On October 12 2012 06:56 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Why do we keep discussing reddit on teamliquid? I think we have enough threads about reddit and their subforums. I put forward a motion, that from now on people can discuss reddit on reddit.


this isn't the SC2 general forum, or the TeamLiquid SC2 team forum, this is the general forum where people tend to post about stuff not relating directly to TeamLiquid

if you want to PM a mod or admin about getting the purpose of this forum changed, be my guest.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
October 11 2012 22:03 GMT
#20
On October 12 2012 06:50 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 06:23 BlueLanterna wrote:
I love the irony in this situation, a bunch of creeps being angry about having their photos posted online when they've doing the same thing to hundreds of unaware girls for who-knows-how-long


There is a difference between a photo of a girl in public and your name, address, and private photos.

Honestly this whole thing is stupid, this is why I stay away from reddit.


When in public you are snapped hundreds of times per day by CCTV, you are still anonymous. Agree that there is a big difference between posting a pic of some anonymous girls ass compared with posting personal information about someone.

Who gave these Predittors the right to give out personal information on the internet without permission? I think you will find that is illegal where as taking a picture of someone in public.... perfectly legal in most cases. unethical and immoral? well thats a personal thing but no reason to have your personal information given out by some random person on the internet.

If the government gave out this info, well thats up to them, they have actual authority..... but a private citizen has no right to do it without permission, moral authority doesn't exist in law... invasion of privacy does.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
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