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On September 28 2012 03:06 th3_great wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:05 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 03:04 SkelA wrote:
My question if the dad has other kids ? Maybe he just want a biological grandsons so he could leave his fortune to :> The dad has another son. he just doesnt want the shame of a lesbian daughter then
She's executive director of Cheuk Nang Holdings (her dad's company), it's just a publicity stunt for the business circle. What credibility do you have for regard for your daughter's privacy or personal life if you literally go to international news stations.
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On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
looks like im moving to china then
*hong kong
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On September 28 2012 03:07 Otolia wrote:
There is no homosexual marriage in France (yet as it should be voted on the 24th of October)
She's in a civil union I believe.
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On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ?
Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
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On September 28 2012 03:10 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought. Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me 
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On September 28 2012 02:57 th3_great wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:55 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:47 NotAPro wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. What exactly is good about his idea? Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ? well considering you just said 'make his daughter heterosexual', any discussion with you is ultimately pointless
Right, because word 'make' mean doing something with psychological pressure and power to abuse those can't resist.
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On September 28 2012 03:14 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:57 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:55 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:47 NotAPro wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. What exactly is good about his idea? Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ? well considering you just said 'make his daughter heterosexual', any discussion with you is ultimately pointless Right, because word 'make' mean doing something with psychological pressure and power to abuse those can't resist.
you said his idea is good. thats exactly his idea!!!!!
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On September 28 2012 03:10 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought. Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
The outrage over the methods is justified for one, also the idea itself that a 33 year old grown woman can not have an input on her own marital choices is ridiculous. Going to international news presses basically ruined her relationship with the current romantic interest and future relationships, can you imagine dealing with the media shit storm? As a successful business tycoon the dad knew exactly what would happen and CHOSE to do it any ways. The method carries the intention of the idea itself.
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Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
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On September 28 2012 03:13 th3_great wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:10 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought. Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it. i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me
So, you have no arguments to support your flawed posts ? Ok, let someone else do it. And I'm probably going to stop responding, because it seems to be pointless.
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I am so waiting for Borat to do something amazing with this
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On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote:
Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
It's 500 million HK dollars, 100 million is a unit by itself in Chinese (亿）which is a threshold that many people just gulp at.
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On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote:
Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
looks like im moving to china then *hong kong
Hong kong is a part of China.
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On September 28 2012 03:10 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought. Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
im sorry but this is just ignorant and dumb yes studies have been done that show its partially based on environmental influences but there's no way to "fix it." it may not be entirely genetic but it is 100 percent not a choice and i could show you many studies that showed that. your basically picking particular findings in studies without reading the study and incorrectly applying them to fit your beliefs. also your basically discriminating based on ingrained sociatal stigmas that you got from psychological and environmental influence and you actually have a choice about what you believe and how you feel unlike someone who is a homosexual.
if you want i can get an explanation from my friend who's a PHD in psychology and a former head of the psychology department at a major university.
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On September 28 2012 03:17 Huragius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:13 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 03:10 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:50 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 02:43 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:30 Caihead wrote:On September 28 2012 02:26 Huragius wrote:On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote:
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter. Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her. You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see. His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless. how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought. Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it. i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me So, you have no arguments to support your flawed posts ? Ok, let someone else do it. And I'm probably going to stop responding, because it seems to be pointless.
well okay fiiiine, if you really want me to 
i think everyone here has established that both his ideas and his methods are bullcrap, so that goes your first point right there.
my last sentence clearly indicated that social and national attitudes towards homosexuality are the cause of this issue. Hong Kong (like lithuania) has no legal status for same sex couples who want to have a partnership, neither marriage no civil partnership. and what you said about how you wouldnt want your son/daughter to be homosexual perfectly shows this. you are entirely right to not list why, and you are completely right to say that we would go apeshit on you, because it makes PERFECT sense that we would.
what kind of parent would you be if you are not accepting of their son or daughter no matter how they came out, gay,lesbian or straight. right in that parargraph you have demonstrated that you are exactly the same as the father in this article. you have no problems with anyone else being gay or lesbian, as long as theyre not YOUR son or daughter. and to me, thats morally reprehensible.
and that last statement about homosexuality being a choice, im sure someone else has refuted that in the time it took me to write this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/0/19475393 here is a great article on the matter of 'gay conversion'
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On September 28 2012 03:19 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote:
Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational. it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.- E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
looks like im moving to china then *hong kong Hong kong is a part of China.
Oh right, just went by the op.
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On September 28 2012 03:28 sparkk51 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 03:19 Hryul wrote:On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote:
Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational. it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.- E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote:
looks like im moving to china then *hong kong Hong kong is a part of China. Oh right, just went by the op.
its actually complicated and in my opinion makes more sense to use hong kong than china because of how different Hong Kong is than the rest of China.
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There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter.
From the category: "Too good to be true".
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On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote:
There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter.
From the category: "Too good to be true".
There are 2 options:
1. His "daughter" is transgender.
2. Chao Sze-tsung is really Shang Tsung and he wants to get acces to the realm of earth by forming a union between his daughter and a mortal soul from earth.
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