Hong Kong property and shipping magnate Cecil Chao Sze-tsung announced he would offer HK$500 million (about $65 million) to the man who can woo and marry his 33-year-old daughter, Gigi Chao, the South China Morning Post reported.
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According to the Post report, the announcement came just one week after Chao's daughter revealed she had married her female partner of seven years, Sean Eav, in France earlier this year. The tycoon, 76, told the Post the reports of his daughter being married were "false." According to the article, same-sex marriage is not legally recognized in Hong Kong, although civil unions are performed in France. Chao, whom the Post describes as "Hong Kong's pre-eminent playboy tycoon," told the BBC that Gigi Chao was single and needed a "good husband." Chao has never married himself, and he once claimed to have slept with 10,000 women, the South China Morning Post reported. According to the BBC, Chao said he wouldn't force Gigi to marry a man against her will. Gigi Chao runs Haut Monde Talent, a modeling and public relations company. She is the first of three children that Chao had with different women, according to the Global Post.
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
Offer a billionaire Heiress 64 mill? She prob has her own business now with whatever opportunities her father has given her and doesn't care for money.
On September 27 2012 20:05 Yuljan wrote: Despicable move by her father. She will be flooded by emails and living a normal live will get pretty difficult for her...
That's quite something. Surely she could find a bloke herself, she's attractive and obviously comes from a well off family. Looks like the farther is just desperate for grandkids
this is a pretty dick move by the father, but w/e if I had that kind of cash and my daughter was a dyke, i'd probably think of doing the same thing lol
You keep seeing fathers choose tradition over family in movies, especially regarding Asian culture, but it's a bit disgusting seeing it in real life. Also the sum of money is weird. Why $65M? Why not 50 or 100?
I guess love doesn't conquer all if a father can't accept his daughter.
It sounds like the father just wants to pay out and bury the possibility of his daughter being a lesbian which is sad... and kind of surprising, considering he's a "playboy tycoon", so you'd think he'd be a little more liberal in his ideas of sexuality in general, no?
On September 27 2012 21:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It sounds like the father just wants to pay out and bury the possibility of his daughter being a lesbian which is sad... and kind of surprising, considering he's a "playboy tycoon", so you'd think he'd be a little more liberal in his ideas of sexuality in general, no?
If I was the father I would make sure my girl is married with someone who the family name is Nore. So I can gain the ultimate baller status with a daughter called Gigi Nore
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
Offer a billionaire Heiress 64 mill? She prob has her own business now with whatever opportunities her father has given her and doesn't care for money.
you also probably don't want to try and pull a fast one over a guy that can offer up $65 mil just for someone to try and turn his daughter straight...
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
Offer a billionaire Heiress 64 mill? She prob has her own business now with whatever opportunities her father has given her and doesn't care for money.
According to the article she runs Haut Monde Talent, a modeling and public relations company.
Yeah, offering money won't be effective. Seducing her while also letting her know that you would have nothing against her having girl-on-girl on the side, on the other hand...
Seriously, though, it's not a bad deal at all. She's a little bit on the older side, but she's still reasonably pretty, and the fact that she likes girls can be a plus. You could basically do this or this, and everybody would be happy.
On September 27 2012 21:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It sounds like the father just wants to pay out and bury the possibility of his daughter being a lesbian which is sad... and kind of surprising, considering he's a "playboy tycoon", so you'd think he'd be a little more liberal in his ideas of sexuality in general, no?
It sounds like she has some money of her own. If anyone gets too persistent, she could probably bribe them to leave her alone. Or just sic her security detail on them...
If he's willing to invest 65 million dollars in this, he's probably losing more than that from business partners that look at his daughter's relationship as unfavorable.
I'm not saying what he's doing is right, as it clearly isn't, but he's in a lose/lose situation here. Do nothing : lose partners and bad publicity in certain circles. Do this : lose millions and bad publicity. Do something else : I'm sure he's tried.
For him I imagine it's more about protecting his financial interest than anything having to do with his daughter.
On September 27 2012 23:11 Kurr wrote: If he's willing to invest 65 million dollars in this, he's probably losing more than that from business partners that look at his daughter's relationship as unfavorable.
I'm not saying what he's doing is right, as it clearly isn't, but he's in a lose/lose situation here. Do nothing : lose partners and bad publicity in certain circles. Do this : lose millions and bad publicity. Do something else : I'm sure he's tried.
For him I imagine it's more about protecting his financial interest than anything having to do with his daughter.
it's about getting grandkids. nothing more, nothing less. i don't think any1 gives a crap what his daughter is doing in a strictly business sense.
On September 27 2012 20:31 FlaminGinjaNinja wrote: That's quite something. Surely she could find a bloke herself, she's attractive and obviously comes from a well off family. Looks like the farther is just desperate for grandkids
If you actually read the post, you'd know that she's a lesbian.
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
while you watch of coarse :D...no?....nobody else thought of that?
You think it's horrible (it is) but it's actually pretty usual in China. Homosexuality isn't even acknowledged as a thing in China unless it starts affecting you personally.
I've talked to my dad before on this, and he's told me that he would flip his shit if I had turned out to be gay (try to make me straight, etc.).
10k shit that like a new woman every day for 30 years O_o, I think I'd be looking for a night or two off after that.
Pretty lady, but fuck.... if she doesn't like men, well too bad. I don't think that offering 65 million to a man is gonna help the situation. Turned his own daughter into the ultimate asshole magnet, she will dislike men even more by the end of this.
This is pretty usual. People in China generally don't recognize homosexuality.
The father is trying to use money to sway the daughter away to another guy is normal based on his mindset of his generation. Older generations people especially in China disliked homosexuality.
Man... my life's ambition is to be a made man. I'm looking for a very rich wife who will love me for playing Starcraft all day and maybe working out here and there.
So is she willing to meet people as part of the father's plea? Like where do I send my headshot or video to get approved to meet her? Looking at HongKong tickets as we speak...
Well, according to his chinese wikipedia page (and my japanese girlfriend) the old man has atleast 1 more offspring. So chances are, he will have grandchildren one day. (But maybe not from his eldest daughter)
I wouldn't mind but tbh the daughter's gf/wife is quiet horrible looking. I kinda feel for the father, please lemme be her dear husband (rich husband) pretty please + i don't mind learning mandarene or w/e they speak there
we're talking about extremely backwards, extremely traditional parents...
Because he is rich, this leads me to believe that he's one of those Chinese that was born rich and got richer as time progressed. One of those guys who lived a lifetime bribing government officials and other people of that nature. And this is the same kind of backwards traditional culture that Lu Xun （魯迅） attacked and criticized vehemently during the new literature era through literature. Hong Kong is one of those places where you have more freedom than china, yes, but of course we're also talking about traditional Chinese culture being upheld here, the same way traditional "American" culture was upheld for the past couple of centuries.
TL;DR Version: Traditional Chinese culture has never had gay/lesbian marriage. This guy is a far-right leaning traditional Chinese man torturing his daughter's freedoms.
i would not marry any person for money, that seems retarded, if i like her and she likes me back then yes, otherwise keep your money, i enjoy living in my 2 room appartment and my life far too much.
On September 28 2012 01:36 Rayeth wrote: This dad seems like the worst person in the world.
He offers a bounty for marrying his lesbian daughter which bascially guarantees that she will be miserable. What a jerk.
I'm fairly certain his behaviour has influenced his daughter's decision to not date men in the first place, multiple wives (divorces), being in the age when you should be reserved and respected but instead publicizing his sexual encounters for ego, what else do you need? Oh right straight out outsourcing your daughter's future with money.
According to the BBC, Chao said he wouldn't force Gigi to marry a man against her will.
I guess people don't read very well? He just wants his daughter to be happy, and from traditional old fashion background, having a good husband for a woman was generally the ideal for a "happy life". Is he doing it wrong? yep, but his intentions aren't as malicious as everyone here thinks it is.
My mom's friend has two daughters, both went to Ivy League schools, and she said that, "Oh, I just want my daughter to find a nice and well off man, so that they can live a happy life without worry." It really isn't much different imo, the guy just wants his daughter to be happy.
The father is looking for a good, kind hearted person but I really don't think any kind hearted man would marry her because he loves her now that there's a 65 million dollar incentive.
Can we stop talking about how "OH I WOULD DO HER" and think about wtf you are saying first? The daughter's private life is being put on full display and her former civic union is being forcibly nullified just because of her father's wishes.
On September 28 2012 01:46 K3Nyy wrote: The father is looking for a good, kind hearted person but I really don't think any kind hearted man would marry her because he loves her now that there's a 65 million dollar incentive.
He says that to a news reporter then goes around having multiple divorces and is still single, publicizing his sexual encounters while denying his daughter the ability to be with her lesbian partner.
On September 28 2012 01:47 Caihead wrote: Can we stop talking about how "OH I WOULD DO HER" and think about wtf you are saying first? The daughter's private life is being put on full display and her former civic union is being forcibly nullified just because of her father's wishes.
It's not forcibly nullified, it just doesn't mean anything in Hong Kong.
Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
On September 28 2012 01:47 Caihead wrote: Can we stop talking about how "OH I WOULD DO HER" and think about wtf you are saying first? The daughter's private life is being put on full display and her former civic union is being forcibly nullified just because of her father's wishes.
It's not forcibly nullified, it just doesn't mean anything in Hong Kong.
It's just about what the father wants period, the daughter can just stay in France. Arguing that it's not legitimate simply because of regional legality is pretty bull shit.
this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
No, he's just interested so he can appeal to businesses and his social circle that he has a "normal" daughter.
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
I wouldnt call that great, I would call it Disney tbh.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
I dunno man undermining a business tycoon, hes probably got some "friends" who know some people who know how to get rid of some people. If you know what i mean
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
whether he still wants grandchildren or not thats still incredibly selfish, and honestly disgusting. if that is the motivation then hes selling out his daughter for 65 mil so he can have some kids to continue the honourable family legacy. and i think she looks happy enough being with her current partner, seeing as they basically ran away together to france just so they could be together in peace.
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
ya great movie
But a plot twist, the "poor guy" is actually the lesbians original lover who wanted to see if they were meant to be together!
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
She's not abused, she's the acting executive at a major corporation. I'm exerting proportional outrage at the state of gender roles in China / Hong Kong and "family" planning where it's about the money. This shit happens all the bloody time.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
His idea to get his daughter to become heterosexual(wtflol) by finding a male partner for her even though she is already married is... good?
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
His idea to get his daughter to become heterosexual(wtflol) by finding a male partner for her even though she is already married is... good?
Well, if you don't believe in homosexuality then you don't believe she's married, just confused maybe. If he's Christian might go as far as corrupted. Must be the hip hop people listen to nowadays and influences of the liberal media filtering as far as HK. Makes me wonder how many people he can hire to pray the gay away. For 65 m you can probably stuff the prayer inbox significantly. I hear it works wonders in the south.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
His idea to get his daughter to become heterosexual(wtflol) by finding a male partner for her even though she is already married is... good?
Well, if you don't believe in homosexuality then you don't believe she's married, just confused maybe. If he's Christian might go as far as corrupted. Must be the hip hop people listen to nowadays and influences of the liberal media filtering as far as HK. Makes me wonder how many people he can hire to pray the gay away. For 65 m you can probably stuff the prayer inbox significantly. I hear it works wonders in the south.
i just feel sorry for the poor people who cant afford to pay some random guy to de-lesbianise their daughter :/
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
Better movie:
Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage. The woman hates men, but is approached by a conman who pretends to be a charity-worker looking for funds. He offers her a deal where they pretend to fall in love in order to swindle the father and redirect his money towards "charity" (the daughter is your standard do-gooder archetype). Over the course of the farce, he starts to feel guilt about swindling the kind-hearted daughter, while the daughter finds out that the man is a conman and the charity is just a front. Espionage drama occurs and eventually the daughter wins and the money is funnelled towards a legit charity, but the thrill entices the daughter and the two continue their fake marriage to continue to con the other high rolling Hong Kongers(or pick your location) as a team.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
His idea to get his daughter to become heterosexual(wtflol) by finding a male partner for her even though she is already married is... good?
Well, if you don't believe in homosexuality then you don't believe she's married, just confused maybe. If he's Christian might go as far as corrupted. Must be the hip hop people listen to nowadays and influences of the liberal media filtering as far as HK. Makes me wonder how many people he can hire to pray the gay away. For 65 m you can probably stuff the prayer inbox significantly. I hear it works wonders in the south.
You can't: 1. Bring up the legality issue and argue that her legally binding marriage / civil union in France has no power in Hong Kong since local legislation does not recognize it. Then 2. Argue that she's just confused and that the marriage is invalid simply because of an outside belief. Doing so is saying "If I, one person, believe that X person doesn't actually like men then her marriage is invalid".
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
well considering you just said 'make his daughter heterosexual', any discussion with you is ultimately pointless
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
Do you understand what it means to be homosexual? At all? Alot of it is either genetic and rooted in hormonal and other bodily functions from birth, or specific to the person's development which at the age of sexual maturity (the daughter is 33) can not be reverted any more unless physical surgery is performed. It's not simply "a phase" or a fetish. I can replace homosexuality with heterosexuality and you will see exactly how ridiculous it sounds. How would you like it if I "made you" homosexual against your will?
On September 28 2012 03:04 SkelA wrote: My question if the dad has other kids ? Maybe he just want a biological grandsons so he could leave his fortune to :>
On September 28 2012 03:04 SkelA wrote: My question if the dad has other kids ? Maybe he just want a biological grandsons so he could leave his fortune to :>
The dad has another son.
he just doesnt want the shame of a lesbian daughter then
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
Why the fuck would anyone in their right mind want that?
On September 28 2012 03:04 SkelA wrote: My question if the dad has other kids ? Maybe he just want a biological grandsons so he could leave his fortune to :>
The dad has another son.
he just doesnt want the shame of a lesbian daughter then
She's executive director of Cheuk Nang Holdings (her dad's company), it's just a publicity stunt for the business circle. What credibility do you have for regard for your daughter's privacy or personal life if you literally go to international news stations.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
well considering you just said 'make his daughter heterosexual', any discussion with you is ultimately pointless
Right, because word 'make' mean doing something with psychological pressure and power to abuse those can't resist.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
What exactly is good about his idea?
Idea to make his daughter heterosexual, allowing her to form a normal family and have children ?
well considering you just said 'make his daughter heterosexual', any discussion with you is ultimately pointless
Right, because word 'make' mean doing something with psychological pressure and power to abuse those can't resist.
you said his idea is good. thats exactly his idea!!!!!
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
The outrage over the methods is justified for one, also the idea itself that a 33 year old grown woman can not have an input on her own marital choices is ridiculous. Going to international news presses basically ruined her relationship with the current romantic interest and future relationships, can you imagine dealing with the media shit storm? As a successful business tycoon the dad knew exactly what would happen and CHOSE to do it any ways. The method carries the intention of the idea itself.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me
So, you have no arguments to support your flawed posts ? Ok, let someone else do it. And I'm probably going to stop responding, because it seems to be pointless.
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
It's 500 million HK dollars, 100 million is a unit by itself in Chinese (亿）which is a threshold that many people just gulp at.
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
im sorry but this is just ignorant and dumb yes studies have been done that show its partially based on environmental influences but there's no way to "fix it." it may not be entirely genetic but it is 100 percent not a choice and i could show you many studies that showed that. your basically picking particular findings in studies without reading the study and incorrectly applying them to fit your beliefs. also your basically discriminating based on ingrained sociatal stigmas that you got from psychological and environmental influence and you actually have a choice about what you believe and how you feel unlike someone who is a homosexual.
if you want i can get an explanation from my friend who's a PHD in psychology and a former head of the psychology department at a major university.
On September 28 2012 02:17 th3_great wrote: this guy wants his daughter to be happy and live a good life...as long as its not with another woman. okay. if he really cared about his daughter so much he'd be happy with whatever she wanted to do, but no, hes just interested in converting his daughter away from homosexuality so he can have a 'normal' daughter.
Or maybe he wants grandchildren? Maybe he wants his daughter to have a normal family and children who could brighten up her life? If the daughter does what she wants, that doesn't mean she does what's best for her.
You know what would brighten up her life? Publicized wedding proposal with a jack pot of millions of dollars totally devaluing any sort of personal devotion or affection or conscious reaffirmation that a romantic relationship might other wise bring, paving the way for a family where the basis is money, and all of this for the public to see.
His idea is good, not his methods. I just don't like the way you all go butthurt when some tolerance/racism issue is touched (always supporting the 'abused' side, with no idea when actually happened). Such a stereotypical and narrow-minded thinking of "abused lesbian daughter and big bad rich daddy" makes whole discussion worthless.
how is his idea good? hes putting up a reward for people to 'un-lesbianise' his daughter. its the same as sending your kid to a camp so he can 'pray the gay away' (except with less media attention). you might say we're going all butthurt when we have no idea what happened, but what we do know is that the daughter ran away to a different country where she could have a legal union between her and her partner. and i dont mean to make it personal, but considering lithunania has no legal unions betwen same-sex couples, im not surprised youre taking this line of thought.
Do you see the difference between an idea and methods ? Or you didn't even read my post ? Also, what point does your last sentence make? You base my individual opinion by reading my country's laws/major beliefs/etc ?. Yeah, you are making a lot of sense. About homosexuals, I can tolerate them, it's their choice and if they are happy- so be it. However, when the question would come to my own son/daughter (or other close people), I would really like him to be heterosexual instead homosexual for many reasons (which I will not name, because people like you would go apeshit with making little sense). I would not use brute force or psychological pressure (like this dad did), I would just simply have a logical and rational discussion with her/him, trying to change her/his mindset. Homosexuality is mostly caused (maybe I could say always, but it's not 100% proved) by psychological and environmental influences and early experiences, which affects individual. It's not something you are born with, there is a way to 'fix' it.
i dont even have to justify that with a response because i know other people will do it for me
So, you have no arguments to support your flawed posts ? Ok, let someone else do it. And I'm probably going to stop responding, because it seems to be pointless.
well okay fiiiine, if you really want me to i think everyone here has established that both his ideas and his methods are bullcrap, so that goes your first point right there. my last sentence clearly indicated that social and national attitudes towards homosexuality are the cause of this issue. Hong Kong (like lithuania) has no legal status for same sex couples who want to have a partnership, neither marriage no civil partnership. and what you said about how you wouldnt want your son/daughter to be homosexual perfectly shows this. you are entirely right to not list why, and you are completely right to say that we would go apeshit on you, because it makes PERFECT sense that we would. what kind of parent would you be if you are not accepting of their son or daughter no matter how they came out, gay,lesbian or straight. right in that parargraph you have demonstrated that you are exactly the same as the father in this article. you have no problems with anyone else being gay or lesbian, as long as theyre not YOUR son or daughter. and to me, thats morally reprehensible. and that last statement about homosexuality being a choice, im sure someone else has refuted that in the time it took me to write this.
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:
On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote: looks like im moving to china then
*hong kong
Hong kong is a part of China.
Oh right, just went by the op.
its actually complicated and in my opinion makes more sense to use hong kong than china because of how different Hong Kong is than the rest of China.
There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote: There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
There are 2 options:
1. His "daughter" is transgender.
2. Chao Sze-tsung is really Shang Tsung and he wants to get acces to the realm of earth by forming a union between his daughter and a mortal soul from earth.
On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote: There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
You didn't see a problem with a father GOING TO THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS about his daughter's marital status? Because you know, that's exactly the type of thing a father should do instead of paying personal attention and responsibility to the daughter's personal life and potential romantic interests himself.
Homosexuality is known to have both genetic and environmental factors, meaning there's no surefire way to make someone gay, and also there's no single "gay gene" that causes it. In fact there's no comprehensive biological or psychological theory for homosexuality whatsoever.
It's also not binary. Some homosexuals are more so than others, some change their sexuality even as adults, some are bi, and so on. I don't think Huragius is wrong in wanting to convince his (hypothetical) child to become straight, as long as he accepts that it might not work.
On September 28 2012 03:34 Tanukki wrote: Homosexuality is known to have both genetic and environmental factors, meaning there's no surefire way to make someone gay, and also there's no single "gay gene" that causes it. In fact there's no comprehensive biological or psychological theory for homosexuality whatsoever.
It's also not binary. Some homosexuals are more so than others, some change their sexuality even as adults, some are bi, and so on. I don't think Huragius is wrong in wanting to convince his (hypothetical) child to become straight, as long as he accepts that it might not work.
although remember that homosexuality has been observed in around 1500 different animal species, which might help the 'gene' argument
On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote: There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
You didn't see a problem with a father GOING TO THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS about his daughter's marital status? Because you know, that's exactly the type of thing a father should do instead of paying personal attention and responsibility to the daughter's personal life and potential romantic interests himself.
That's the exact reason I said "there's something really shady about this" But what do we know ?!
On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote: There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
You didn't see a problem with a father GOING TO THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS about his daughter's marital status? Because you know, that's exactly the type of thing a father should do instead of paying personal attention and responsibility to the daughter's personal life and potential romantic interests himself.
That's the exact reason I said "there's something really shady about this" But what do we know ?!
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:
On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote: looks like im moving to china then
*hong kong
Hong kong is a part of China.
Oh right, just went by the op.
its actually complicated and in my opinion makes more sense to use hong kong than china because of how different Hong Kong is than the rest of China.
Not complicated enough that it's not its territory. Hawaii's pretty different than US. Quebec is pretty different from Canada. It's not even disconnected from the mainland. Also opinions don't matter much when it comes to territory. Just ask Japan. Just my opinion.
On September 28 2012 03:34 Tanukki wrote: Homosexuality is known to have both genetic and environmental factors, meaning there's no surefire way to make someone gay, and also there's no single "gay gene" that causes it. In fact there's no comprehensive biological or psychological theory for homosexuality whatsoever.
It's also not binary. Some homosexuals are more so than others, some change their sexuality even as adults, some are bi, and so on. I don't think Huragius is wrong in wanting to convince his (hypothetical) child to become straight, as long as he accepts that it might not work.
basically what your saying is talking about the act of having homosexual relations and experimentation as opposed to actually being a homosexual. if youactually are only attracted to people of the same sex than there's nothing that can be done and attempting to convince you to be straight is going to probably lead to some form of psychological trauma as a result of telling you that what your doing is wrong when it isn't. it's fin having discussions about it but you should be trying to help them figure out who they actually are instead of trying to convince them of something.
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:
On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote: looks like im moving to china then
*hong kong
Hong kong is a part of China.
Oh right, just went by the op.
its actually complicated and in my opinion makes more sense to use hong kong than china because of how different Hong Kong is than the rest of China.
Not complicated enough that it's not its territory. Hawaii's pretty different than US. Quebec is pretty different from Canada. It's not even disconnected from the mainland. Also opinions don't matter much when it comes to territory. Just ask Japan. Just my opinion.
i know but i was talking about political differences and yes it's technically part of china i just think that when someone says china it brings to mind the areas closer to the capital with more oppressive government intervention. i wasn't trying to argue with you and im sorry that my response was worded poorly. i wasnt trying to imply that it wasnt part of China.i was simply trying to say that saying china might give someone the wrong impression.
On September 28 2012 03:16 sparkk51 wrote: Notice how he chose to award $65,000,000 and not 50,000,000 or any other guessable amount. He hopes to appear calculative and... rational.
it's simply 500 mill hong kong dollars. not everyone is calculating in US-$ -.-
E: since I don't have anything substantial to say, i just continue my white&nerdycrusade
On September 28 2012 03:09 th3_great wrote:
On September 28 2012 03:07 sGSuperSlinkY wrote: looks like im moving to china then
*hong kong
Hong kong is a part of China.
Oh right, just went by the op.
its actually complicated and in my opinion makes more sense to use hong kong than china because of how different Hong Kong is than the rest of China.
Not complicated enough that it's not its territory. Hawaii's pretty different than US. Quebec is pretty different from Canada. It's not even disconnected from the mainland. Also opinions don't matter much when it comes to territory. Just ask Japan. Just my opinion.
i know but i was talking about political differences and yes it's technically part of china i just think that when someone says china it brings to mind the areas closer to the capital with more oppressive government intervention. i wasn't trying to argue with you and im sorry if my response was worded poorly.
It's cool. With all the territories people try to make distinct from China, be it tibet, taiwan, hongkong, nw china, I feel a bit antsy especially considering the issues with Japan. Really don't want a war but it feels awfully dangerous. Really fearful because people talk about war like it's a video game. Anyway, it's off subject, back to the subject of something about lesbians...
On September 27 2012 22:09 Diks wrote: If I was the father I would make sure my girl is married with someone who the family name is Nore. So I can gain the ultimate baller status with a daughter called Gigi Nore
Lol.
I think that the $65 million would get in the way of people actually trying to woo her though wouldn't it? She would know that any man hereafter who tries to woo her would probably know of the woo bounty on her head. Therefore she probably wouldn't meet any men to actually marry her for her personality. Terrible move by her father. Besides, she's lesbian anyway. Idk why some people just refuse to accept the fact that there are homosexual people.
I do have a really cool idea about a person who might woo woo woo / you know it, a person well known by our community but I'm quite afraid to mention the name. Let's just say I had a bad experience in the past with TL moderation
On September 28 2012 03:30 HomeWorld wrote: There must be something really shady related to this stuff, I fail to understand why a father would offer millions of dollars to the person who will marry his daughter. From the category: "Too good to be true".
There are 2 options:
1. His "daughter" is transgender.
2. Chao Sze-tsung is really Shang Tsung and he wants to get acces to the realm of earth by forming a union between his daughter and a mortal soul from earth.
On September 28 2012 03:34 Tanukki wrote: Homosexuality is known to have both genetic and environmental factors, meaning there's no surefire way to make someone gay, and also there's no single "gay gene" that causes it. In fact there's no comprehensive biological or psychological theory for homosexuality whatsoever.
It's also not binary. Some homosexuals are more so than others, some change their sexuality even as adults, some are bi, and so on. I don't think Huragius is wrong in wanting to convince his (hypothetical) child to become straight, as long as he accepts that it might not work.
basically what your saying is talking about the act of having homosexual relations and experimentation as opposed to actually being a homosexual. if youactually are only attracted to people of the same sex than there's nothing that can be done and attempting to convince you to be straight is going to probably lead to some form of psychological trauma as a result of telling you that what your doing is wrong when it isn't. it's fin having discussions about it but you should be trying to help them figure out who they actually are instead of trying to convince them of something.
Incorrect. As he said, homosexuality is not binary. No one is 100% gay or straight.
On September 28 2012 03:34 Tanukki wrote: Homosexuality is known to have both genetic and environmental factors, meaning there's no surefire way to make someone gay, and also there's no single "gay gene" that causes it. In fact there's no comprehensive biological or psychological theory for homosexuality whatsoever.
It's also not binary. Some homosexuals are more so than others, some change their sexuality even as adults, some are bi, and so on. I don't think Huragius is wrong in wanting to convince his (hypothetical) child to become straight, as long as he accepts that it might not work.
basically what your saying is talking about the act of having homosexual relations and experimentation as opposed to actually being a homosexual. if youactually are only attracted to people of the same sex than there's nothing that can be done and attempting to convince you to be straight is going to probably lead to some form of psychological trauma as a result of telling you that what your doing is wrong when it isn't. it's fin having discussions about it but you should be trying to help them figure out who they actually are instead of trying to convince them of something.
Incorrect. As he said, homosexuality is not binary. No one is 100% gay or straight.
Hence the thrill that comes with an attempt at getting a lesbian woman to switch teams. Alas, heartbreak is always soon to follow.
On September 27 2012 20:00 KwarK wrote: Offer her $64m out of the $65m to agree to a sham marriage and then let her do whatever she likes with her lesbian partner.
Hahaha haven't read best post than this right here in months!
I applaud you sir KwarK! Well said, well said indeed!
edit: Oh didn't realize that it's known fact that she's actually gay. Nevertheless still quite good post
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
ya great movie
But a plot twist, the "poor guy" is actually the lesbians original lover who wanted to see if they were meant to be together!
All of you guys are totally lost in this. China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan (the lattermost I'm not 100% sure of) have never had a history of allowing gay marriage within their borders. China has never even had a history of gay or lesbian marriage, and if her father is thinking what I think he's thinking, then his mere concern is that his daughter sticks with Chinese tradition of marrying a man, and not a woman.
On September 28 2012 06:46 Enders116 wrote: All of you guys are totally lost in this. China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan (the lattermost I'm not 100% sure of) have never had a history of allowing gay marriage within their borders. China has never even had a history of gay or lesbian marriage, and if her father is thinking what I think he's thinking, then his mere concern is that his daughter sticks with Chinese tradition of marrying a man, and not a woman.
I think you're the one that is lost. I'm pretty sure that everyone completely understands what this post is about.
On September 28 2012 02:11 EffervescentAureola wrote: Honestly this sounds like a great movie. Rich corrupt tycoon has lesbian daughter, offers insane amount of money for her marriage, the woman already hates men and is in a relationship with a woman who looks like a man, she gets all sorts of calls from guys who only want the money, then she comes across a poor guy who she falls in love with but her dad wants her to marry a sophisticated guy with class, eventually her dad realizes the poor guy has has a heart made of pure gold and he's in love with the daughter, not the money.
ya great movie
Lmfao when I told my friend about this story earlier today he said something along those lines. More specifically that it sounded like a movie indeed.
On September 28 2012 06:46 Enders116 wrote: All of you guys are totally lost in this. China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan (the lattermost I'm not 100% sure of) have never had a history of allowing gay marriage within their borders. China has never even had a history of gay or lesbian marriage, and if her father is thinking what I think he's thinking, then his mere concern is that his daughter sticks with Chinese tradition of marrying a man, and not a woman.
Couple of hundred years ago we in the west had a history of burning women we thought were weird, doesn't make it right.
We understand entirely, that her father is old fashioned, and I mean that in a derogatory sense, his views may be 'traditional' but they are based on outdated thinking and are oppressive to a significant portion of the population. If you don't understand that then your views too are outdated and oppressive by mainstream western standards.
As far as the money, sure it would be great, but personally if I were her, I imagine she's doing OK by herself and would probably refuse to make a deal with anyone on principle.
On September 28 2012 06:46 Enders116 wrote: All of you guys are totally lost in this. China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan (the lattermost I'm not 100% sure of) have never had a history of allowing gay marriage within their borders. China has never even had a history of gay or lesbian marriage, and if her father is thinking what I think he's thinking, then his mere concern is that his daughter sticks with Chinese tradition of marrying a man, and not a woman.
You missed the first Buddhist lesbian marriage in Taiwan by a few weeks, dude ... Taipei's actually one of the most LGBTQ-friendly places in Asia.
I think Hong Kong and Shanghai are supposed to be pretty open too, and I've heard the same about Chengdu. (Not sure about any of these places, as I've never visited, but this is what I've heard.)
On September 27 2012 20:05 Yuljan wrote: Despicable move by her father. She will be flooded by emails and living a normal live will get pretty difficult for her...
On September 27 2012 20:38 red4ce wrote: A sexist, homophobe and hypocrite, gee whiz. So he can sleep around with women and never get married but his daughter can't?
And guess what? A fucking billionaire. Give me a billion dollars and I'll be all the sexist, homophobic hypocrite who sleeps around all you God damn want.
Oh when there's something about a trad asian billionaire who does something insane that opposes TL users liberal edgy ideology it's automatically shady
On September 29 2012 05:53 bakarin wrote: Oh when there's something about a trad asian billionaire who does something insane that opposes TL users liberal edgy ideology it's automatically shady
Stay classy people
Ohh yes, homophobia isn't going to be seen as racism back in the 50s is seen today. Stay classy Christians.
On September 29 2012 05:53 bakarin wrote: Oh when there's something about a trad asian billionaire who does something insane that opposes TL users liberal edgy ideology it's automatically shady
Stay classy people
Ohh yes, homophobia isn't going to be seen as racism back in the 50s is seen today. Stay classy Christians.
On September 29 2012 05:53 bakarin wrote: Oh when there's something about a trad asian billionaire who does something insane that opposes TL users liberal edgy ideology it's automatically shady
Stay classy people
Ohh yes, homophobia isn't going to be seen as racism back in the 50s is seen today. Stay classy Christians.
I'm not a christian nor a theist
Go be edgy on /r/atheism.
OK, then stay classy you "defensive of regressive/outdated Asian culture because you are Asian" Asian.
well I've read a lot about homosexuality and numerous researchers claim that it's not a single dimension, but two of them, one for heterosexuality and one for homosexuality. So if she loves a woman it doesnt prove she cant have the same relationships with a man (but that is highly unlikely). So her father might have a point after all.
"I don't mind whether he is rich or poor. The important thing is that he is generous and kind-hearted," he added. "Gigi is a very good woman with both talents and looks. She is devoted to her parents, is generous and does volunteer work."
Looks like they are both good people. Its a pity there is this homosexuality thing dividing them.
On October 04 2012 03:32 JimSocks wrote: Obviously daughter doesn't want to get cut off from them billions
It's almost as if you didnt read anything and just posted.....oh wait
since she runs her own modeling agency im sure she doesnt need anymore money
and It's more like make my daughter not a lesbian, and since she has the choice of who she wants to marry(dad said she does) good luck to her finding a husband(an actual man)
there's always a catch. She maybe a 'she-male'. It's Asia after all, there's high chance. Her father loves him/her so much that he would do anything in his power to make his son/daughter happy. I'm just sayin. This is too good to be true.
You have to befriend her, and seduce her girlfriend. Then you get her on the rebound. I'm sure there are plenty of suitors who have already tried the direct approach.
Guys chill... this father seems to prefer his daughter be married to a man but in the end won't stoop TOO low to get it...
In this particular case, he has created a game... get my daughter to fall in love with you and marry you (that way he gets what he wants in her marrying a guy instead of a girl) and you will win my cash as well!
Seems like it has a taste of evil but mostly just seems like a kid with his money spending it on wtf he wants... and his daughter is subject to the emotions of the potential relationship.
TL DR: money for those who can win her love, nothing more
I dunno. Those that'd want to love her for her, would be turned off by the money and not go for her. Those that'd want her for her money, she'd never go for anyhow.
On October 20 2012 03:14 plated.rawr wrote: I dunno. Those that'd want to love her for her, would be turned off by the money and not go for her. Those that'd want her for her money, she'd never go for anyhow.
It's lose-lose.
So there's no chance that someone can love her and the money is just a bonus?
On October 20 2012 03:14 plated.rawr wrote: I dunno. Those that'd want to love her for her, would be turned off by the money and not go for her. Those that'd want her for her money, she'd never go for anyhow.
It's lose-lose.
So there's no chance that someone can love her and the money is just a bonus?
Or that they'd do it first for the money, and then realize "hey, she's actually a really great girl!" ?
On October 20 2012 03:14 plated.rawr wrote: I dunno. Those that'd want to love her for her, would be turned off by the money and not go for her. Those that'd want her for her money, she'd never go for anyhow.
It's lose-lose.
So there's no chance that someone can love her and the money is just a bonus?
Or that they'd do it first for the money, and then realize "hey, she's actually a really great girl!" ?
Right, how different is it from "wow shes hot, lemme get some o dat" and then "hey, she's actually a really great girl!" ??
It's funny to see that most people here only analyse the male perspective (want to do it for the money, do i like her, is she a good girl, a boring person, how crazy her father is blablablabla)
From her point of view she probably gets alot of calls and can never be sure if the guy like her or is doing this just for the money.
On October 20 2012 03:24 Darkren wrote: It's funny to see that most people here only analyse the male perspective (want to do it for the money, do i like her, is she a good girl, a boring person, how crazy her father is blablablabla)
From her point of view she probably gets alot of calls and can never be sure if the guy like her or is doing this just for the money.
So, this happens anytime a guy finds out she is loaded with money before starting to like her a lot, no?
I think I read somewhere that Sacha Baron Cohen is interested in making a movie about this. It'd be interesting to see how that turns out, if it gets green-lighted.
As for the father, I'm sure he doesn't expect his daughter to change through something like this, nor find a man who isn't motivated by the money. He probably wanted to use the public exposure and attention to influence or shake her up. I doubt it would work though.
Too bad you can't ban for indecency. There's so much wrong in this thread already. Let's just take away the factors of the person's sexuality. How would you feel if your father was selling you off instead of giving you the choice when you are a grown and educated adult? How would you feel if your father broadcast-ed and denounced your sexuality and decision making in effect (regardless of what it is) on international television? How is any of this justified regardless of what family scenario or assumptions you come from?
On October 20 2012 11:20 Telcontar wrote: I think I read somewhere that Sacha Baron Cohen is interested in making a movie about this. It'd be interesting to see how that turns out, if it gets green-lighted.
As for the father, I'm sure he doesn't expect his daughter to change through something like this, nor find a man who isn't motivated by the money. He probably wanted to use the public exposure and attention to influence or shake her up. I doubt it would work though.
I was wondering what this thread was still doing up. Anyway, yes Sacha is doing a movie based on it.
On October 20 2012 13:09 svi wrote: I'm guessing her father wants to pass on his bloodline, which is why he's doing this. I'm guessing she is a only child, btw, since this is in China.
Perfectly reasonable to me, and I don't see why people here are crying about it.
Nope, there's 2 younger sons, if you go by back wards Chinese family values logic sons are more important to the inheritance any ways. The idea that you will rather trust men who are coming into an arrangement for large sums of money than your own daughter is just indefensible.
On October 20 2012 12:46 Caihead wrote: Too bad you can't ban for indecency. There's so much wrong in this thread already.
Good thing we don't ban based on the opinions of people who disguise their ignorance/hatred of free speech underneath bullshit political correctness.
On October 20 2012 12:46 Caihead wrote:How would you feel if your father was selling you off instead of giving you the choice when you are a grown and educated adult?
Did you even read the article in question? Offering a cash bounty to whoever can woo his daughter ≠ selling her off.
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