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MightyAtom
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September 19 2012 16:35 GMT
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Corporate Executive Series

Part 1



This book, 'How to Get Rich' by Felix Dennis (400M-900M net worth- he doesn't exactly know), published in 2006, basically destroyed my corporate career and put me on the path for 'Start-Up/New Company Hell'. It is an extremely dangerous book and it misses an extremely key business knowhow which I learned the extremely difficult way over the course of the last two years. It is an extreme book.

For this first part, I wanted to grab the bulls by the horns and talk about what no one really wants to talk about, the entire idea of doing business to become Rich. Shocking, rampant materialism and disgusting to most, underlying all of that is a mentality that in doing a business that you own, it takes more than guts and a hope for glory, but to be totally fearless in taking that first step.

The Business of the Mentality


I start off this series of business mentality knowhow with the book that has gotten me in a lot of trouble from my wife and my relatives who basically see me as throwing away my entire stable corporate career to run start-up/new companies.

For me personally there is a distinction between what is a start-up and a new company. A start-up being a high tech or IT based company with a unique product or in a fast growing market, where a new company is simply a new company in a mature or existing market. That being said, I am involved with the running of 4 companies, not all the same time mind you, but I have commitments to all 4 to various degrees. But before all that, what got me on this track off my cushy fat cat corporate career track was this book.

Felix the Coke Snorting Fiend!


Felix Dennis, by his own accounts was a coke snorting, call girl addicted fiend, until he nearly died from that lifestyle. And now he is a patron of establishing forests in English and is a poet. He picked the name, 'How to Get Rich' for his book, not because he has no style, but he just wanted to pick the most direct base name for it. With a title like that, it is an absolutely embarrassing book to be carrying around. I once was flying from London back to Hong Kong on British Airways business class and I was reading this book now for the 3rd time and I fell asleep. In the aisle next to me were two fat Scottish business women who couldn't stop talking and enjoying their trip. They wore big gaudy big rings, heavy makeup and definitely were senior management of some big company. They obviously were use to the finer things in life.

So as I was napping, this book, "How to Get Rich" had fallen in between the aisle. It was tough falling asleep because of the two Scottish magpies, so as I was half dazed, I saw the stewardess pick up the pick and say to the ladies, 'Excuse me is this your book?' and the Scottish magpies look at the cover and started to laugh, 'How to get rich, hahaha, no it is definitely not ours, hahaha', and I in a half daze put up my hand and say, 'it's mine, thanks'. The scottish fattie magpies looked at me still laughing and obviously thought I must have been upgraded from economy and continued their 10 hour cackling. But I didn't care, at the time, this book was haunting me.

In business there are many different fields and areas, each one with their own set of knowhow and procedures and mentality. But among the different fields of industries from accounting firms to manufacturer to media agencies, there is a more fundamental divide, the divide between being an equity holder and an executive staff.

Being Smart Ain't Great
Business is one of those professions where being really smart usually works against you. The reason why is because business fundamentally is about the practical application of theory in tangible phases of development. i.e. mostly about operations (consistency and focus). So if you see an awesome business on the news which is a multi-billion dollar enterprise, or even an international fashion brand, chances are it has been around for 10-15 years and has been built up over time in tiny steps. Sure there is the googles and facebooks, but you can literally count them on one hand, whereas there are thousands of companies that make in the 10-30m region of profit every year with only companies the size of 20-50 people and is nothing to be scoffed at. For the most part, business required dedicated and step-by-step effort, except for one part. The start.

The Black Hole
At the start of a business, there are no employees, no executives, and most times, no capital. At the actual start of a business, is a single person with an idea, passion and will to take a risk. And while it is a calculated risk and may not be seen as a risk to the 'entrepreneur' as they may believe that they have all the bases covered and the new business is not a risk, per say, rather just something that will happen; relative to someone who has always worked to for a monthly paycheck or annual bonus, it is a massive risk. It is a massive risk against that stability of having a monthly paycheck and that risk only increases in size the more you climb that corporate ladder.

Trying to be Rich Sucks
Felix's book really is aimed at flushing out that point and actually starts by saying everything he can to dissuade anyone from thinking that 'getting rich' is a good thing. If you want to plunge right into the deep end of understanding how the business wealthy in the world understand wealth, then this is more than a primer, it is as much personal knowhow as you're going to get from anyone at his caliber.

Fundamental to Felix's outlook to becoming rich is being on the equity/owner side of things; he has no problem giving out big salaries and bonus, but he rarely gives out equity/ownership. For the most part, if you're looking to be stable, being a high paid executive is a crappy way to go as well. But if you're looking to be very stable with the ability to buy most consumer and luxury goods at a whim, then being a high paid executive is the way to go.

From my experience, at 30k a month after taxes, you can pretty much live to the highest middle class standards as possible; you can have a couple of 100k cars, send your kids to private school, buy nearly anything you want without any care, with the exception of couture level goods (D&G, Channel,etc). At 30k monthly after taxes, you usually run out of things to buy by the 3 week of each season and unless you collect watches or cameras (in which you realize 30k isn't that much), you stop thinking about consumer goods after a year at living at that level. Even among the very wealthy, there is very little difference after 100M of liquid (i.e.cash equivalent) wealth i.e. private jets etc (not my personal experience, but what I've been told by clients).

Business Can Make Somethings Better
But for a moment, withhold your judgement as to the gross material consumerism presented here, what if, you actually enjoy doing business as profession? What if all the bells and whistles aren't something you care for and you'd rather just donate the money to charity. I'm not saying I'm not that guy, but my point is that for those not in business, the main reason why we don't even try to learn about the mechanics of business is because we don't want to be associated with the materialism it represents.

Say you are an inventor, having a good business fundamental back your invention allows you to do more and make your products a reality and even allows you to control how your products are used rather than being a slave to your finances.

Say you create local manufacturing businesses that employ the local community, well you're going to have to run it damn well if you're going to compete with countries with considerably lower wages.

Or say, you simply want to be the best in the field, that you really take business as profession like law or an athlete and simply want to be the best at what you do, in this case, wealth is a by-product of that achievement and truthfully, if buying things is really want you are after, making more than 400k annually after taxes does the job.

Without a Safety Net


So for Felix, the entire quest to become rich is not for happiness or fulfillment, rather it is a conscious decision to take a walk without any kind of safety net and go through some serious bruising. He has a check list for the mentality required to proceed with the entire affair. But before I get into that, I'll say that this list and one other thing, was really what I got out of this book. The advice that he gives in later chapters about running a start-up and being focused and delegating etc, you can find in most other high quality books (his advice is no less valid), but what is unique about the book is this following list and that he tackles that fear of the 'start'.

So here is Felix's list from 'How to Get Rich' if you can check even one off, you're disqualified:

1-If you are unwilling to fail, sometimes publicly, and even catastrophically, you stand very little chance of ever getting rich.

2-If you care what the neighbors think, you will never get rich.

3-If you cannot bear the though of causing worry to your family, spouse or lover while you plough a lonely, dangerous road rather than taking the safe option of a regular job, you will never get rich.

4-If you have artistic inclinations and fear that the search for wealth will coarsen such talents or degrade them, you will never get rich. (Because your fear, in this instance, is well justified.)

5-If you are not prepared to work longer hours than almost anyone you know, despite the jibes of colleagues and friends, you are unlikely to get rich.

6-If you cannot convince yourself that you are 'good enough' to be rich, you will never get rich.

7-If you cannot treat you quest to get rich as a game, you will never be rich.

8-If you cannot face up to your fear of failure, you will never be rich.


This is a brutally heavy list, and on my best day, I would barely be able to 'yes' to all of them and on my average days, I could stare at this list all day and probably not come to firm answer. Whether you think this is ballsy or just dumb to have this mentality, honestly, I have to agree with him on these points, if your objective is to be rich and you ain't a nerd who can actually build something.

For those who are in their teens or early 20's, probably more out of naivety would you be able to say yes, or lack of responsibilities, but that isn't a bad thing when really, the one major thing that holds you back is, fear of just starting. Felix does mention, that a few can have their cake and eat it too, meaning that for some they can be rich by doing what they love, but it isn't the norm.

Nerds Rock the Free World, Finally


In many ways, Felix's mentality is a bit outdated because we now have things like crowdfunding like kickstarter.com and also Y Combinator Seed Fund. Technology has allowed the cost of making a mass market product or service considerably less. You can source products from alibaba.com from China with just an email when back in the 90's if you didn't fly there and spend a month sourcing things for quality you just couldn't do it. It isn't a completely a vicious world where only the strong survive to get the cash, the geeks and nerds are doing it really well by essentially harnessing new media and technology. Sure, amassing a large army is great, but if your national banking system gets hacked by some foreign nerd army unit, you're not going to be invading anyone any time soon. So times have changed and those same changes allow me to manage or be a part of 4 different start-up ventures. That being said, I would say the list above is no less relevant and the road no less difficult.

1 in a Million?
The passage that stuck out to me about this book was the following:

"In nearly forty years of doing business, I know of only six senior managers or professionals between forty and fifty who struck out on their own. And two of those were lawyers.

One did very well indeed with his own law firm. Two of them did fairly well. One went belly up and never recovered financially. One threw in the towel and owns a tiny bar on an island in Croatia. The remaining one shot himself when his venture collapsed. None f them became really rich.

Yet you picked up this book. You're still curious. You're still hungry. Read on, my learned friend. 'How to Get Rich' may subvert you yet, though I very much doubt it...

The only question is: will you dare to try? If you will, then you are one in a million. Or two million or three. Your chances are slim, but they are not impossible...(Dennis, How to Get Rich: Chapter Pole Position last 2 pages)
."

The problem with me is that I love a good fight, I love to be the underdog and because if you can win as the underdog, you can dominate when you have the advantage and you get confidence in being that guy that takes the buzzer shot. I read this book, cover-to-cover about 8 times. It's not a long book, it will likely take you a couple of days to read, but like everything with great insight or knowhow, you re-read it to really internalize it. That particular passage, I've probably read it 50 times at least. I seriously, hate/love this book, in that order, but after 2 years, I'd say, the chances are near impossible for a senior corporate executive to switch gears like that. I have barely survived the ordeal.

Corporate Rambo
By 33, I'd say I was one of the top executives globally in my field and I wondered if there was more. I read a lot, usually a business book a week, but nowadays not much, unless it is about a major event like the Madoff or 2008 sub prime crash; otherwise, process books on corporate finance, marketing, management, negotiation, etc I could probably write a basic textbook myself at this point. I have little background in finance (stocks, bonds, trading), but I'm fine with that, I've read up on it, but it isn't my cup of tea. Obviously I'm confident, it comes with the territory, I'll be self-depreciating where I can, but hate away cause I really can't fake not being confident, not that I do give a fuck as well.

But, as I've mentioned, I was 'trained' to be the ideal corporate executive; work a like mofo, uber alpha male competitive, brutally honest but political where necessary, quick thinking, decisive, completely results oriented and able to make every resource count. My staff honestly called me Rambo, but they did so with sadness because unfortunately they were the team that had to be dropped(forced) in the jungle with me. I did all this, not cause I'm a robotic corporate mofo, but because it was the arch-type of what I thought was my role in business and the reward was financial stability. I'd say, I was everything my uncle hoped I would be. This book made me question all that, that in being the CEO or managing director of a major existing corporation was the end goal, it made me question, did I want freedom or stability?

Of course, any sane person would say, freedom isn't getting more money or position, freedom is actually taking a step back from it all and striking a balance. For me, I thought of it in terms of getting freedom in being more capable, to master both sides and to take on Felix's challenge. I thought, the longer I stay on, the less chance I will go to a start-up. And even when I quit, much to the protest of my wife, my staff, and my friends, I still considered just going into another big industry/company and it wasn't until six month afterwards did I really start on the path to start-up/new company hell.

As Offensive as a book as any
If you're looking for a book that is offensive and in your face, about business, this is it. But as a really practical guide, it does miss one vital point, and it is something that I have learned over the last two years. No matter how much experience or knowledge you have in your industry, being an executive and running a new company are two totally different skill sets. One will not help with the other in any meaningful way. Executives turn entrepreneurs will come in with a false sense of confidence and expectations and have them crushed.

The other point is, it doesn't matter how confident you are, how big the market is, how good your product is, the market needs to be growing dramatically. You should never launch your first new company in a market that isn't growing dramatically, because timing means so much. It means if you make mistakes you won't get severely punished for them, or your efforts have a direct effect. I could spend a book explaining how important timing is and I don't mean getting lucky with timing, but understanding how timing plays a role in the company you want to start. I get where Felix is coming from, he knows, fear of the start is the #1 factor why people don't go off and 'get rich', but the amount of will power to over come that fear may just blind you to the other real business fundamental of running a start-up which he doesn't cover here.

But why I like this book is that it is unapologetic. This ain't a book for the faint of heart and it doesn't high behind any 'do no evil' 'connect the world' new age silicon valley nerd technology banners. This is business as honest as it can be, and Felix gets right to the points about how he thinks about money and getting rich and what that means. And it is a good place to start, right from the top.

The Corporate Series


Over the course of this series I will be dealing with everything under the sun, success and management in a big company, killing the ladder, experience and of course the knowhow in how to keep on track. We all get fucked, fuck up and so on, but it's ok if we're going to come out on top on the other hand, getting fucked and not getting anything for it, that sucks - is an understatement- but the first bit of knowhow in business that I can share is: don't chase being rich, chase being business smart and that will be enough. Cause if you chase anything else, ego, excitement and dreams will blind you instead of guide and support you.

How to Get Rich, Felix Dennis, Amazon Link

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Written by: MightyAtom
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 19 2012 17:16 GMT
#2
It's the best article you wrote so far. Way more thought out than the rest. 4/5

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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 19 2012 17:33 GMT
#3
On September 20 2012 02:16 Otolia wrote:
I love getting to know the enemy.


lol, but honestly this is so true, as well, even I get a lot of guys more hardcore than me trying to scam me and I really know business inside and out. And it's probably the number 1 reason why the finance industry makes so much cash because of the opaqueness of it all. i.e. how much crap they can get away with! ^^ but thanks for the post, appreciated it.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 17:46:42
September 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#4
Fascinating stuff Mighty.

E: Met a couple of Rambo types in my time as a consultant, but most of them were concentrated in PE. Quick question though--why did you make the jump? Was it a good idea you had, was it the availability of funding/partners to help your idea?
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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 19 2012 18:24 GMT
#5
A good overview, though a bunch of typos threw me off.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 19 2012 23:30 GMT
#6
Ouch, Otolia such a harsh rater lol.

Another good read. I always go through them, somewhat realizing that you are dropping some bigass pearls of wisdom with your words, and that your advice is truly invaluable. But I always feel that I haven't truly LEARNED or internalized what you've been saying in these (and to my surprise you used the same word in this article itself haha)...I guess I need to reread them, haha? But seriously, it's obvious that there is just amazing advice here and I'm always afraid I'll forget or not internalize everything. Cheers and thanks
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
September 20 2012 01:00 GMT
#7
I read that book too, probably two or three times by this point. The first time I read it was about 2 years ago, at first I thought I can get pass all of Felix's challenge questions, but after having some more life experiences I gotta look back and say that I probably can't answer 'yes' to every question on his checklist anymore. But I'm not 100% certain, so now I'm really trying to figure out which path to take. Thank you for bringing his book up though, it really is quite enlightening (and well written).
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JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
September 20 2012 10:19 GMT
#8
I love your writing MightyAtom. I'm gonna buy that book, I think it'll help me a lot. I actually printed out your blog about being efficent at work before, really inspirational. Keep up the nice writing, and if I ever visit SK I'd love if you have time for a drink~
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 14:12:22
September 20 2012 14:11 GMT
#9
One of the things that my Opa told my father, and my father told me was some old jewish words of wisdom, "The christian way to open a business is to open a brand new business in a field that already exists, the jewish way is to copy everything, just make it 10 cents cheaper."

EDIT: Also great post can't wait for more posts mightyatom .
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
September 20 2012 19:26 GMT
#10
Very interesting post MightyAtom, some people have that one book (or in my case those few books) that alters the trajectory of their professional and personal lives. I liked "How to Get Rich" and Felix is an intriguing character but I didn't find it that practical. I much preferred "The Millionaire Next Door" which was a lot less dramatic and more practical for me. Live below your means, and acquire equity (Through mutual funds, stocks, your own business etc).

I live by that maxim. I pack my own lunch, I negotiate every chance I get (Even my rent), rent a small but cozy apartment, I have a bus pass for commuting, I use every credit card and tax trick that's out there and when I travel I'm frugal as well (Saved thousands on a trip to fiji by doing "global volunteering"). Even my salary is relatively low, but I own the majority of the equity in my company. Anyone can become wealthy (i.e. Healthy net worth, financially independent) using these methods. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. Though everything in his list rings true.

MightyAtom, I look forward to your article on management in a big company. If I may suggest a couple of topics that others might enjoy, how about operational excellence or the art of talent finding? And also project management. I recently got on the "cloud management and collaboration" bandwagon. I don't know what software you use but I use Clarizen and Salesforce predominately.
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Fallians
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada242 Posts
September 21 2012 00:49 GMT
#11
My biggest question after reading this is, where do I start? By that I mean how did you get to become one of the top executives, did you go to school? If so for what degree? Did you start at the bottom and work your way up or did you have a job waiting for you? I know for a fact I want to go into business, maybe for the wrong reasons but nonetheless there has to be a starting point. A path I need to follow to get to this point, this is the hardest part to understand for me.
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:20 GMT
#12
On September 20 2012 03:24 divito wrote:
A good overview, though a bunch of typos threw me off.


sorry, it was a rush job, but tofucake is reviewing it now ^^
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:24 GMT
#13
On September 20 2012 02:44 Shady Sands wrote:
Fascinating stuff Mighty.

E: Met a couple of Rambo types in my time as a consultant, but most of them were concentrated in PE. Quick question though--why did you make the jump? Was it a good idea you had, was it the availability of funding/partners to help your idea?


the jump was always at the back of my mind really, but it wasn't based on any idea or the availability of funding, I took the jump first because I knew if I waited any longer I likely wasn't going to have the courage/balls/insanity to take it later. But my situation was different than most because I did have some savings and my industry reputation and network was strong enough that funding wasn't going to me a major issue for me. Don't get me wrong, funding wasn't easy to sort, but I knew I would get it.

In terms of ideas, I'm not a product guy, so for me it was more of a matter, can I run a company, in this industry, better than others? And the answer was yes, so I wasn't re-inventing the wheel by any stretch of the imagination. ^^
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:26 GMT
#14
On September 20 2012 08:30 Aerisky wrote:
Ouch, Otolia such a harsh rater lol.

Another good read. I always go through them, somewhat realizing that you are dropping some bigass pearls of wisdom with your words, and that your advice is truly invaluable. But I always feel that I haven't truly LEARNED or internalized what you've been saying in these (and to my surprise you used the same word in this article itself haha)...I guess I need to reread them, haha? But seriously, it's obvious that there is just amazing advice here and I'm always afraid I'll forget or not internalize everything. Cheers and thanks


Well I think you have the right understanding, I think internalization comes with time and experience and at those moments when you're actually doing something, and then you have that split moment of choice and then you remember something that you read or learned before and then suddenly it makes sense in that context and bang, by applying it you internalized it. I don't think it business it can come any other way, this is all just mental prep work, but it never sticks until you've made it stick by the decisions and actions you make ^^
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:28 GMT
#15
On September 20 2012 19:19 JollYRoGeR wrote:
I love your writing MightyAtom. I'm gonna buy that book, I think it'll help me a lot. I actually printed out your blog about being efficent at work before, really inspirational. Keep up the nice writing, and if I ever visit SK I'd love if you have time for a drink~


for sure ^^ although my travel schedule is so erratic, I hope we can organize another TL meet up in Seoul and I can or attend, or what would be cool if I attended a meet up in Sweden keke!
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:38 GMT
#16
On September 21 2012 04:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
Very interesting post MightyAtom, some people have that one book (or in my case those few books) that alters the trajectory of their professional and personal lives. I liked "How to Get Rich" and Felix is an intriguing character but I didn't find it that practical. I much preferred "The Millionaire Next Door" which was a lot less dramatic and more practical for me. Live below your means, and acquire equity (Through mutual funds, stocks, your own business etc).

I live by that maxim. I pack my own lunch, I negotiate every chance I get (Even my rent), rent a small but cozy apartment, I have a bus pass for commuting, I use every credit card and tax trick that's out there and when I travel I'm frugal as well (Saved thousands on a trip to fiji by doing "global volunteering"). Even my salary is relatively low, but I own the majority of the equity in my company. Anyone can become wealthy (i.e. Healthy net worth, financially independent) using these methods. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. Though everything in his list rings true.

MightyAtom, I look forward to your article on management in a big company. If I may suggest a couple of topics that others might enjoy, how about operational excellence or the art of talent finding? And also project management. I recently got on the "cloud management and collaboration" bandwagon. I don't know what software you use but I use Clarizen and Salesforce predominately.


Yes, I don't think there is one way to be financially stable or wealthy, for me its more about pressing my limits more than anything else. I'm completely the opposite mentality, if I spend more, I try to make more. So rather than discipline, its more like I'm driven by the challenge, which is a far more risky proposition, that being said, I have a policy of no debt; we pay our credit cards to zero or as close to zero each month and we never buy anything we can't afford to purchase out right. Again, I don't think there is a wrong or right way, but we also need to be true to our own approach and character. That being said, in managing a new company where I'm responsible to the shareholders directly, I have been far more frugal out of necessity.

In terms of your suggestions, I think they are excellent, although I think I'm going to tackle the corporate ladder first. =) And we have our own inhouse programs for CRM and project management, so I'm not familiar with those companies, although they seem to have great clients. =)
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Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:46 GMT
#17
On September 21 2012 09:49 Fallians wrote:
My biggest question after reading this is, where do I start? By that I mean how did you get to become one of the top executives, did you go to school? If so for what degree? Did you start at the bottom and work your way up or did you have a job waiting for you? I know for a fact I want to go into business, maybe for the wrong reasons but nonetheless there has to be a starting point. A path I need to follow to get to this point, this is the hardest part to understand for me.


If you want to get into the executive path, it depends on your industry, but yes,
get a masters in business admin, or international business or masters in law at the very least,
so that means working for a few years then applying.

If you want to get into finance, then you need to get an ivy league degree, otherwise, its tough unless you are able to network and get something sorted on your own, otherwise, just get an MBA or business degree at the best school you are able to do it at. Some top firms will even send and sponsor their staff to get their MBA.

Undergraduate business degrees are ok, I didn't have one, but at least they focus you more towards business right of the track, but it won't guarantee you to get on the executive track.

Everyone starts off entry level, and its a matter of learning the industry, working your way up, impressing your manager and putting some wins under your belt that go beyond your schooling, i.e. made 650% return last year on the marketing budget etc.

But even starting as a non-paid intern at the best company you can get into, is great, cause it can lead to a paid internship and so on and so forth.

The number one thing you need is experience, but not just any experience, you need to also acquire knowhow at companies which actually have their 'own culture' of performance.

I'll get into this as my next post, it may not come out for a bit of time, but I hope this is enough to get you started,

visit the usual suspects sites for some broader scope like gs.com and google and see what types of positions are open; don't get depressed if you aren't qualified, hell, I'm probably not qualified for 98% of the jobs up there, but it is just to open your eyes a bit.

Cheers, ^^
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Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
September 21 2012 01:48 GMT
#18
On September 21 2012 04:26 Warrior Madness wrote:
Very interesting post MightyAtom, some people have that one book (or in my case those few books) that alters the trajectory of their professional and personal lives. I liked "How to Get Rich" and Felix is an intriguing character but I didn't find it that practical. I much preferred "The Millionaire Next Door" which was a lot less dramatic and more practical for me. Live below your means, and acquire equity (Through mutual funds, stocks, your own business etc).

I live by that maxim. I pack my own lunch, I negotiate every chance I get (Even my rent), rent a small but cozy apartment, I have a bus pass for commuting, I use every credit card and tax trick that's out there and when I travel I'm frugal as well (Saved thousands on a trip to fiji by doing "global volunteering"). Even my salary is relatively low, but I own the majority of the equity in my company. Anyone can become wealthy (i.e. Healthy net worth, financially independent) using these methods. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. Though everything in his list rings true.

MightyAtom, I look forward to your article on management in a big company. If I may suggest a couple of topics that others might enjoy, how about operational excellence or the art of talent finding? And also project management. I recently got on the "cloud management and collaboration" bandwagon. I don't know what software you use but I use Clarizen and Salesforce predominately.



and...you should write a knowhow for that book as well ^^ if you have time, I'd appreciate it as well as I could be a bit less reckless as well in general.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-21 04:41:49
September 21 2012 03:16 GMT
#19
On September 21 2012 10:48 MightyAtom wrote:
and...you should write a knowhow for that book as well ^^ if you have time, I'd appreciate it as well as I could be a bit less reckless as well in general.


You know what I would love to write a know-how on that one day! (When time is kinder to me) It's one of the books that jolted me to becoming who I am today. I'd also really like to write about the book "The Lean Startup" by Eric Reis. Lean or more accurately agile is a big part of my business, it's in its DNA. Almost everything right down to our marketing and CRM is "agile". Plus I can approach the article from the drop out, underachieving bum angle No ivy in this league.

-Gunbae!

P.S. My first successful home based business (After three failures xD) was a niche review site signed up with Amazon affiliates. It's only really profitable if the item costs over $200 and if the traffic is high and targeted enough. For that you'd need search engine marketing for the keyword; So when a person google's "The Lean Startup" its TL Know How page shows up at the top. I've always wondered why TL went for Google Ads instead of a handful of prominent ads to relevant products like Alienware laptops. That would make a small fortune cause TL has a sterling reputation they can leverage for more exclusive partnerships and a large, marketable audience . AdSense REALLY sucks for generating online revenue but partnership programs (Like Amazon affiliates) kick ass.
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United States1788 Posts
September 21 2012 15:06 GMT
#20
On September 20 2012 02:33 MightyAtom wrote:
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On September 20 2012 02:16 Otolia wrote:
I love getting to know the enemy.


lol, but honestly this is so true, as well, even I get a lot of guys more hardcore than me trying to scam me and I really know business inside and out. And it's probably the number 1 reason why the finance industry makes so much cash because of the opaqueness of it all. i.e. how much crap they can get away with! ^^ but thanks for the post, appreciated it.

i feel like i have such a different perspective of the startup world, since i entered it at a very young age from the developer->CTO->CIO side and not as an older businessman. what role exactly do you play at your startup(s)? I dont see what it would be other than maybe Strategy/CSO? or VP of Business Development?

when i read your articles, i feel like i see a different world than you do.

this one had a lot of basic general info on the mindset you need to have to be rich, though.

from my experience being part of 4 startups at the same time, which you claim to do, is counter-productive, horribly inefficient, and damn near impossible to actually commit to. unless they are all very well funded and you dont have to work as hard to out-execute. i've mostly bootstrapped so i always try to focus really hard on one thing, and outexecute my enemy even if he has 50m in VC funding and i have $0 (true story btw, and we ended up with not only a better product, but positioned ourselves to take the market in a superior manner )
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