EPTOn September 08 2012 09:50 Roe wrote:
What do we actually gain by severing ties with them?
What do we actually gain by severing ties with them?
Mostly symbolic given we have virtually no economic relations with them already due to UN Sanctions.
Canada Suspends Diplomatic Ties with Iran - Page 2
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
Mostly symbolic given we have virtually no economic relations with them already due to UN Sanctions. | ||
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Dryzt
Canada118 Posts
On September 08 2012 09:51 blinken wrote: Harper is a shill for Israeli interests, and I'm sure the only reward Canada got for this was a thank you call from Netanyahu. was going to quote exactly that, this is just proof that Israel has infiltrated Canada as badly as it has the united states. John Bhaird is thee worst foriegn relations minister Canada has ever had, it is painfully obvious where his allegences lie. Netanyahu congradulates Canada: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4278496,00.html make no mistake, the assault on Iran is nothing more than the states protecting their petro dollar and the international bankers destroying the last government controlled central bank in the world. After which all central banks will be in the hands of private interests... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Dryzt
Canada118 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: UN Goal = Turn the middle east into a smoking crater? Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya , Egypt Mission accomplished.Looks like Syria and Iran are next in the crosshairs. It wouldn't surprise me if this turns into World War 3. it will be world war three because China (hopefully) is doing some serious posturing to prevent an Israel led US invasion of Iran, which is their main supplier of oil. Hard to know how Russia plays into this but we could only hope that someone can rise up to oppose the Israeli's and US attack dogs, which right now are freely pilaging, looting, and killing people all over the middle east. | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:03 blinken wrote: Incorrect, we both do what Israel wants. Perhaps the reason I find this so disturbing is the lack of US fingerprints. The Canadian government truly does unconditionally support Israel, which is shocking, since most Canadians can't even find it on the map. Painfully the same thing can be said for Americans lol | ||
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OsoVega
926 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:35 Dryzt wrote: was going to quote exactly that, this is just proof that Israel has infiltrated Canada as badly as it has the united states. John Bhaird is thee worst foriegn relations minister Canada has ever had, it is painfully obvious where his allegences lie. Netanyahu congradulates Canada: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4278496,00.html make no mistake, the assault on Iran is nothing more than the states protecting their petro dollar and the international bankers destroying the last government controlled central bank in the world. After which all central banks will be in the hands of private interests... Believe it or not, Canada, the United States and Israel are democracies and your conspircy theories are the most anti-intellectual ideas possible. You blame small groups of conspirators who have the magic ability to hijack democracies when it has alwyas been the popular ideas of the people that has decided the fate of countries. Central banks exist because people think they work and even if they are technically private, it is undeniable that they are controlled by government. The USD is doomed (which you probably don't realize) because of the actions of the Federal Reserve and which is controlled by government which is controlled by voters who vote based on their ideas. It is those ideas that matter, not your imaginary conspiracy theories. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
On September 08 2012 09:50 Roe wrote: What do we actually gain by severing ties with them? You gain increased prices for oil.. if that counts. | ||
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TriO
United States421 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:52 OsoVega wrote: Believe it or not, Canada, the United States and Israel are democracies and your conspircy theories are the most anti-intellectual ideas possible. You blame small groups of conspirators who have the magic ability to hijack democracies when it has alwyas been the popular ideas of the people that has decided the fate of countries. Central banks exist because people think they work and even if they are technically private, it is undeniable that they are controlled by government. The USD is doomed (which you probably don't realize) because of the actions of the Federal Reserve and which is controlled by government which is controlled by voters who vote based on their ideas. It is those ideas that matter, not your imaginary conspiracy theories. I don't think you understand how a republic works and that throughout the years the imperfect system of voting has been abused time and time again, now to argue that a "conspiracy" exists without backing proof is about as naive and stupid as arguing that they don't exist or at least are non-likely based off personal assumptions. To go into more detail, I would say that one could connect a few dots here and there over the years and argue that conspiracies "The action of plotting or conspiring" have not only happened on multiple occasions, but are happening frequently. If I want that promotion I may conspire to undermine my colleague in an attempt to elevate my position, a company may conspire with other companies to corner the market and remove a specific organization and a country may conspire with another country to hit an end goal that another country may find unjust or plain wrong and yet they do it everyday. "Small groups of conspirators" When has a large group of conspirators ever existed? Do you think Stalin when he was overthrowing his superiors conspired with the public, or Hitler with his public with regards to conspiring against millions of jews? Conspiracies are always small groups with big plans that play off the naive and they've happened since before Caesar whispered "Et tu, Brutus" (or so the lore goes) "by government which is controlled by voters who vote based on their ideas." Arguably this is a false assumption, what if we have 2 candidates to vote for and we're forced to vote, if our candidates are Hitler and Stalin (used in a previous example, might as well carry it) then when they kill millions of people, was it the people who decided those deaths? Arguably yes yet they were elected to power because of power and propaganda... I doubt many average joes who voted for Hitler's party assumed he'd attempt to exterminate an entire race of people, so it's their fault for not having that assumption! It is the duty of the public to be informed because at any moment great evil can take stride as it has for thousands of years. The government may be chosen by the people, but the actions of the government are not always of the people and when this occurs it is the duty of the people to either take back control of the government or overthrow it entirely but in today's world that is a near impossibility so we're stuck between choosing the white cat and the black cat (someone might get that reference ^^) So to end, I would say that countries and organizations conspire on an everyday basis, does this "illuminati" exist? Possibly, it is not an impossibility with today's technological advances that a small group with enough resources could control the way nations shift between power but I would not place any stone into it because frankly I am not versed enough in the debate. So to reiterate my original point, one that has been bugging me when people blankly say "trooferism" or say tin foil hat wearers, you are naive and stupid if either you believe in something with no proof or completely negate something because of common opinion. | ||
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OsoVega
926 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:42 Dryzt wrote: it will be world war three because China (hopefully) is doing some serious posturing to prevent an Israel led US invasion of Iran, which is their main supplier of oil. Hard to know how Russia plays into this but we could only hope that someone can rise up to oppose the Israeli's and US attack dogs, which right now are freely pilaging, looting, and killing people all over the middle east. Israel does a decent job defending it's borders while America half-assedly fights to bring democracy to people who don't want it and makes excuses for the murderers of soldiers who were disarmed in front of alleged allies for the sake of political corectness. The only thing America is doing wrong is sacrificing itself to it's enemies and failing to stand up for itself. Point me towards all this unreserved pillaging and looting. All I've noticed is a huge waste of lives and money for zero material gain (as anti-Americans like to allege is the purpose of these wars). | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: UN Goal = Turn the middle east into a smoking crater? Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya , Egypt Mission accomplished.Looks like Syria and Iran are next in the crosshairs. It wouldn't surprise me if this turns into World War 3. I think we can all agree WW3 is gonna originate from the middle east... or Germany lol jk. Just a matter of who and what starts it. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 08 2012 11:06 Zooper31 wrote: I think we can all agree WW3 is gonna originate from the middle east... or Germany lol jk. You can draw very similar comparisons (obviously scaled back) to the Yugoslavic powder keg which eventually lead to the first world war. | ||
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:59 TriO wrote: Were going to war soon with Iran no doubt. Someone I know who works in the aerospace and defense development(aka smart airbourne weapons)they are one of the biggest contractors for the U.S. government, had their productions increased last few months. Last time that happen was few months before the Iraq war. This and there have been some news lately (in Norway at least) that Kongsberg Defence just got another contract with the US (saying that the old one was increased is more correct) for thousands more turrets. I am no expert so I just call them turrets, its the ones they use on top of vehicles, the machine guns. | ||
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TNK
United States163 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:59 TriO wrote: Were going to war soon with Iran no doubt in my mind. Someone I know who works in the aerospace and defense development(aka smart airbourne weapons)they are one of the biggest contractors for the U.S. government, had their productions increased last few months. Last time that happen was few months before the Iraq war. Were definitely not stocking up for the hell of it. Something big is about to happen within the next few months. Honestly Israel has been threatening Iran long enough for their threats to be as credible as North Korea's war threats to the south so I don't think a war is going to happen anytime soon. Also it is election year so every politician acts tough this year in order to gain votes. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 08 2012 11:07 Roflhaxx wrote: This and there have been some news lately (in Norway at least) that Kongsberg Defence just got another contract with the US (saying that the old one was increased is more correct) for thousands more turrets. I am no expert so I just call them turrets, its the ones they use on top of vehicles, the machine guns. It's quite alright, turrets do just fine with that explanation hahaha (Also the type of mounted weapon may change and vary depending on vehicle class so it's not a big deal again that you used "turret) It will not be as interesting as some people seem to think, Albert Einstein was a smart man and I would put my money behind his wit when he said that WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones. | ||
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Trotim
Germany95 Posts
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mynameisgreat11
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Sofestafont
United States83 Posts
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 08 2012 11:24 Sofestafont wrote: Can anyone explain Canada's rationale for doing this (Besides the huge Israeli conspiracy or the Illuminati)? Did Iran do something recently to spark this? Is the jury back regarding Iran's nuclear intentions? Could be completely unrelated to both of the things you just said. Similar to Sweden (you may hear some backlash about this but it is frankly true and can be proven through case studies) US says "jump" and we kindly oblige. The last real premier to push back hard enough to make noise was during the Cold War but staying away from the history lesson it is election year, Canada is just simply getting back in bed with the US showing that they'll follow them. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On September 08 2012 11:15 mynameisgreat11 wrote: Canada is a hockey team right? The best damn one in the universe. | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On September 08 2012 09:47 blinken wrote: Even though this does not seem to be public opinion in Canada, our government has gone ahead and done it anyway. Does know one think the Government knows something about foreign relations more than some Canadian jackoffs on the internet? You think they don't have more intelligence and reason than you have? I also love how this thread got 2 posts before the USA bashing began gotta love TL. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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