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Keefmaster
Iceland12 Posts
legalize today please. | ||
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guN-viCe
United States687 Posts
To me, that's all that matters. ![[image loading]](http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/Hantuchova/575642_472054866155205_1821531729_n.jpg) http://thomaskleppesto.tumblr.com/post/26149335063/the-relative-dangers-of-drugs-what-the-science-says | ||
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:39 aksfjh wrote: There's really no reason why we should increase access to a substance that impairs judgement and greatly increase the dangers of driving and operating machinery. It's also a mild to moderate analgesic with an unrivaled therapeutic index. | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:39 aksfjh wrote: There's really no reason why we should increase access to a substance that impairs judgement and greatly increase the dangers of driving and operating machinery. Really? Pouring money to cartels, making harmless people into criminals, filling prisons past full for possession for a relatively harmless substance isn't a reason? | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:34 PanN wrote: How would legalizing drugs effect current addicts exactly? Your post is just useless. You should try explaining why you think that guys wrong instead of just posting a one liner garbage comment. It would make more of them? If drugs are easier to get more people will do them, not less lol. | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:44 Luepert wrote: It would make more of them? If drugs are easier to get more people will do them, not less lol. Do you think it is even remotely difficult to get weed? I had a way harder time getting booze than weed in high school. And how is responsibly using a bad thing? | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
it would bring tonsa taxes(instead of wasting millions on chasing rnd pothead dude #1523545), take that money from organized crime etc. in the end i havent seen someone succesfully argumenting for the ban, still thats the way it is. pretty sure in the future this will happen. until then... whatever. evryone smokes anyways. i only know like 2 poeple that never tried it. | ||
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Saddo
Germany59 Posts
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HunterX11
United States1048 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:44 Luepert wrote: It would make more of them? If drugs are easier to get more people will do them, not less lol. Honestly weed should be a whole different debate than all other banned recreational drugs because it is safer than virtually all other drugs, recreational or medicine, legal or banned. However, when it comes to other drugs, some of them do have relatively minor side effects compared to the effects of their illegal status; for example, while doing heroin is hardly a great idea, with access to affordable, safe, properly dosed and administered heroin, the biggest side-effect is constipation. The main reason it destroys lives the way it does today is because of the effects of it being illegal. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:20 RoosterSamurai wrote: In this thread: People that don't actually know any real drug addicts. So you think that the law is stopping potential drug addicts from becoming drug addicts? I disagree. People become drug addicts because their personality causes them to seek the easy way out. Like everything else in our society, people want to blame everything but themselves for their problems. Even alcoholics refer to their drinking problems as a "disease" not anything they did to themselves. In short, the people you know who are drug addicts aren't so because drugs are easy to get, it's because they're weak. Using the law to protect people from themselves is an exercise in futility and a waste of government resources. The law should continue to be used to protect people from each other, and most people advocating legalization of marijuana recognize that driving while high is a big no-no. Just like with alcohol, most users don't do it because it's unsafe and they know if they get caught they're in trouble. Legalization would eliminate the black market for marijuana. They could easily beat the price of street dealers while still taking a ton off the top in taxes, just like cigarettes. You eliminate the bottom rung of the drug world, which is often how people use marijuana as a "gateway" to other drugs anyways, by trying it at their weed dealer's house. Now all that's left are the people dealing hard shit like cocaine or heroin, leaving them wide open to the authorities. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:52 Saddo wrote: okay, i live in germany so either gettin alc. nor gettin weed is a problem. i really enjoyed weed, actually smoked most of the time because i felt bored. since i got to vie the international, i just wanted to stay "clear" i smoked/drank as before but stoped sometimes to get the great intervies completely. i think weed should be just as free /prollly even more than alc., its just not that dangerous alcohol is VERY accessible over here. 16= free to buy as much beer/wine as you want. applying that to weed wouldnt be right. there are many that are ready in that age but way more that arent ready for drugs of any kind. but with 18/21 it really should be the citizens own decision. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:44 tokicheese wrote: Really? Pouring money to cartels, making harmless people into criminals, filling prisons past full for possession for a relatively harmless substance isn't a reason? Or maybe if we had a concerted effort and stopped toying with the idea of legalizing it, it would be even more controlled. Certainly, some of the penalties of possession, like 3 strikes laws, are too harsh compared to the crime, and probably contribute to the complacent nature of some officers, departments, and states on the issue. However, that's not a real argument for legalization. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: the only reason weed is illegal in most states atm is that changing that would mean a huge image loss for the ruling party. it would bring tonsa taxes(instead of wasting millions on chasing rnd pothead dude #1523545), take that money from organized crime etc. in the end i havent seen someone succesfully argumenting for the ban, still thats the way it is. pretty sure in the future this will happen. until then... whatever. evryone smokes anyways. i only know like 2 poeple that never tried it. Not everyone smokes. There are a lot of folks out there who don't smoke for differing reasons (career, "respecting one's body", don't like the stuff, etc). I've tried both drinking and smoking marijuana once and figured if I didn't enjoy it now, why train myself to like it. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: the only reason weed is illegal in most states atm is that changing that would mean a huge image loss for the ruling party. it would bring tonsa taxes(instead of wasting millions on chasing rnd pothead dude #1523545), take that money from organized crime etc. in the end i havent seen someone succesfully argumenting for the ban, still thats the way it is. pretty sure in the future this will happen. until then... whatever. evryone smokes anyways. i only know like 2 poeple that never tried it. Smoked a cigarette before, drinked alcohol, but never touched weed. ... but then again you don't know me! So I don't count  --------------------- Anyways I don't see weed being a problem if it's legalized, but all the people I know that get blazed are friggin retarded and do some dumbass things in life. Maybe I just ran into some really stupid potheads. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:56 aksfjh wrote: Or maybe if we had a concerted effort and stopped toying with the idea of legalizing it, it would be even more controlled. Certainly, some of the penalties of possession, like 3 strikes laws, are too harsh compared to the crime, and probably contribute to the complacent nature of some officers, departments, and states on the issue. However, that's not a real argument for legalization. when thousands of fine ,tax paying peaceful members of society get treated like the worst criminals evry year(and lifes destroyed cause of that, not by the drug but the legislation) then imho that is a reason. On September 02 2012 13:56 urashimakt wrote: Not everyone smokes. There are a lot of folks out there who don't smoke for differing reasons (career, "respecting one's body", don't like the stuff, etc). I've tried both drinking and smoking marijuana once and figured if I didn't enjoy it now, why train myself to like it. exactly what i meant. evryone tried it. some like it, some dont. now imagine all those people (including you) wouldve been caught by the police just for trying it once. fines,possible loss of job/license etc. does that sound justified? | ||
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Saddo
Germany59 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:43 Keefmaster wrote: people need to realize that prohobion does not make it go away, it only makes it a black market substance. legalize today please. ^^ That. Also illegal drugs give 0% control, you sell the weed from controlled points you actualy have excactly that. You then can give it laws. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On September 02 2012 13:58 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: when thousands of fine ,tax paying peaceful members of society get treated like the worst criminals evry year(and lifes destroyed cause of that, not by the drug but the legislation) then imho that is a reason. exactly what i meant. evryone tried it. some like it, some dont. now imagine all those people (including you) wouldve been caught by the police just for trying it once. fines,possible loss of job/license etc. does that sound justified? Yes. How many people do you think would try it if they didn't think they could get away with it? | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
Only brainwashed people think weed is actually bad. There are no stupid potheads, just stupid fucking lazy people. How alcohol (literally poison) is legal over weed blows my MIND. Almost every great musician has consistently smoked weed. Legalize it. | ||
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