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On July 27 2012 06:35 TheFish7 wrote:
How on earth do people still question the fact of global warming? There is no debate to be had here; people must be seriously trolling this thread.

On July 27 2012 05:56 Stoli wrote:
There is really nothing to debate here. There is a large consensus in climate science:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus.htm

even in the US. Politicians already 'control' these industries. Global warming regulation isn't an inherent expansion of government (in some cases it can be obviously) but it is an inherent increase to the allowed


I don't know what you were banned for, but climate "denial" is in my experience, entirely the result of ignorance. It's the inability to research for yourself, and evaluate sources.

For example:


This website is my favourite source by far, I'm yet to see a denial argument it doesn't counter:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm

Still, you didn't need that website, a VERY simple google search would have answered your question without demanding someone do the research for you simply by referencing some arbitrary website:

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=Medieval climate change&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=a72b5deb115828db&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=636 "medieval climate change" could not be a much more intuitive search.

Literally the first three results directly address your "argument:"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11644-climate-myths-it-was-warmer-during-the-medieval-period-with-vineyards-in-england.html

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/302/5644/404.short



Note, the last result is a reputable journal. Stick to reputable science instead of sourcing internet blogs. There is nothing to debate: this is not debate, this is education.

On July 27 2012 07:23 dvorakftw wrote:


I read the news today.

Oh boy.

On July 27 2012 07:26 EvilContrarian wrote:
Climate Science can describe what is happening, and it can even describe why it is happening. Climate Science alone is insufficient to evaluate what to do as a response. This becomes a political problem that needs to be solved at a cross discipline level. Take a look at the TSA if you want to see an example of how political solutions to "big scary" problems can have a deleterious effect on the average person. The bigger the fear, the easier it is to trample decency and dignity in the name of "just do something".

On July 27 2012 09:09 Stoli wrote:
Again, you highlight your inability to evaluate sources. That is an editorial (http://www.co2science.org/index.php) not a peer reviewed article submitted to an academic journal.

Basically, it's a website, and a public charity. It has no scientific credibility beyond the fact that it has references. None of those references, however, make the assertion that climate change is not occurring.

On July 27 2012 09:59 dvorakftw wrote:

Again I show my refusal to take your fingers-in-your-ears-nah-nah-nah-I-can't-hear-you attitude seriously. What do you think about CERN? http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2011/08/svensmarks-theory-of-cosmoclimatology.html

On July 27 2012 10:36 MannerBro wrote:
Global warming is technically "real" but not in the way we picture it as something humans brought upon the earth. The sun goes through solar phases in which at some times the larger solar waves map the earth warmer and at other times the smaller waves make the average temperature cooler. This is scientifically proven through the current fossil record we have at our disposal. Scientists discovered the fossil of a snake in South America that was estimated to be over 80 feet long. For a cold blooded reptile of this size to survive scientists conclude the average temperature would have had to been around 110F much higher than our current average temperature. And back then there were no factories or green house gases to cause this.

In short, there is no reason for people to stress over the melting of the ice caps. It is natural that global temperature will increase and then decrease with the sun's solar cycles. I can be sure that in a few centuries people will be scared due to cold

On July 27 2012 10:25 dbald27 wrote:
I think this thread proves the biggest flaw in democracy. Ignorant people (all of us) thinking they know something about subjects so complicated that they could only understand if they had dedicated their life to studying it. I don't think a single person who posted in this thread saying either it shows global warming is definite, or unrelated has anywhere near the credentials to speak with such confidence. Decisions on such issues should be left to those who actually know about them, especially when its such a complicated and difficult issue.

tldr: idiots telling idiots that they're idiots

On July 27 2012 11:03 dvorakftw wrote:

People like you are why millions get murdered in places like Russia and China.

edit: why, not while

On July 27 2012 11:15 dbald27 wrote:


I'm definitely not advocating dictatorship. I'm just pointing out something which people have known about democracy for a long time, that it gives people a voice on issues which they are not qualified to make decisions on.

On July 25 2012 09:32 Queequag101 wrote:
Global warming doesn't exist the sun has times when it creates large solar waves and the earth gets warmer and times when it gets colder.