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wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
July 04 2012 08:03 GMT
#341
On July 04 2012 17:03 TBO wrote:
so I guess I can use Comic Sans in all my papers/presentations now and refer to a billion dollar funded project using it for their discoveries. Hard to refute it's viability as academic viable font now.


Brian Cox ‏@ProfBrianCox

It's entirely appropriate to present in Comic Sans @VincentConnare !

1 minute ago. Hey, he allows it.
I know where my towel is.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 04 2012 08:03 GMT
#342
On July 04 2012 17:03 TBO wrote:
so I guess I can use Comic Sans in all my papers/presentations now and refer to a billion dollar funded project using it for their discoveries. Hard to refute it's viability as academic viable font now.

Maybe she's meta-trolling the scientific community.
alderamin
Profile Joined June 2012
80 Posts
July 04 2012 08:03 GMT
#343
On July 04 2012 17:01 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:57 georgir wrote:
I don't get it. Gives other particles their mass? That doesn't even make sense, much like saying it gives other particles their energy or velocity. Why can this particle have its own mass but others can't? What gives the higgs boson its mass then? Is it turtles all the way down?


No, no. Think of it this way. You possess a characteristic called 'mass'. However, does that mean you'll be able to 'feel' other particles with 'mass'? How do you know that they are there? Even if you know they are there, what difference does your 'mass' make? The Higgs boson is the particle that tells your 'mass' what to do. It makes it so that objects with 'mass' are attracted to each other.



The whole thing only has meaning mathematically. You can't put it in words like this. You can put it in words that sound similar and that make sense, but the end it's just math.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 08:04 GMT
#344
haha, I actually love using Comic Sans... not for presentations but I used to use it for ICQ. Does anyone still remember ICQ?
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Klunssila
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
July 04 2012 08:04 GMT
#345
I'll give this 5/5 sigmas.
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
July 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#346
Please check out this awesome playlist by fantastic SixtySymbols

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7DEC46BD7058D7BB&feature=plcp

"Petabytes of data at Large Hadron Collider" is especially recommendable.
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#347
On July 04 2012 17:04 Klunssila wrote:
I'll give this 5/5 sigmas.


That's only one sigma!
Bahamuth
Profile Joined September 2011
134 Posts
July 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#348
Does anyone know what is meant by 'channels'? Is it just different processes/Feynman diagrams?
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
July 04 2012 08:05 GMT
#349
Witnessing a historical moment live, long live the internet! =) Thanks for that too, CERN.^^
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
July 04 2012 08:06 GMT
#350
On July 04 2012 17:03 TBO wrote:
so I guess I can use Comic Sans in all my papers/presentations now and refer to a billion dollar funded project using it for their discoveries. Hard to refute it's viability as academic viable font now.

Still more respectable than Science requiring Word format.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 04 2012 08:06 GMT
#351
On July 04 2012 17:03 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 17:03 TBO wrote:
so I guess I can use Comic Sans in all my papers/presentations now and refer to a billion dollar funded project using it for their discoveries. Hard to refute it's viability as academic viable font now.

Maybe she's meta-trolling the scientific community.


No, she's actually just incredibly stubborn. People in the collaboration have tried to get her to make her presentations look more presentable, but she just ignores that
Such flammable little insects!
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 04 2012 08:07 GMT
#352
On July 04 2012 17:05 Bahamuth wrote:
Does anyone know what is meant by 'channels'? Is it just different processes/Feynman diagrams?


A channel is a process in which a Higgs boson decays. Since the detector picks up the decay products rather than the actual particle, it's important to look at all possible decay channels.
Such flammable little insects!
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
July 04 2012 08:09 GMT
#353
Someone should print out that presentation and slap her around with that ugly shit...holy moly
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
July 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#354
On July 04 2012 17:05 Bahamuth wrote:
Does anyone know what is meant by 'channels'? Is it just different processes/Feynman diagrams?


Channels are the path through which the Higgs decays, Feynman diagrams would be useful for showing this.
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RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
July 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#355
I'm sorry, but I mean I took physics in highschool, but I don't understand a thing theyre saying. Did they discover it or not lol?
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
July 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#356
Whoa, nice job on the 5 sigma. I''m going to jump on this physics-bandwagon and claim Higgs-boson confirmed

So now we have confirmed the model, I have 2 questions:
1) Anyone have an idea what's next? A collider the size of the planet to confirm even more elimentary particles?
2) When can I expect my gravity gun?
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 08:10 GMT
#357
On July 04 2012 17:03 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 17:01 kingjames01 wrote:
On July 04 2012 16:57 georgir wrote:
I don't get it. Gives other particles their mass? That doesn't even make sense, much like saying it gives other particles their energy or velocity. Why can this particle have its own mass but others can't? What gives the higgs boson its mass then? Is it turtles all the way down?


No, no. Think of it this way. You possess a characteristic called 'mass'. However, does that mean you'll be able to 'feel' other particles with 'mass'? How do you know that they are there? Even if you know they are there, what difference does your 'mass' make? The Higgs boson is the particle that tells your 'mass' what to do. It makes it so that objects with 'mass' are attracted to each other.



...and when you bang e.g. two photons against each other often enough you are able to read where 'mass' is written down on their charactersheet?

(I'm being serious here, this shit is hard for non-physics. =P)

Edit: Or rather, the entire book which is written down on them is smacked against the wall and you try to decypher what you know from what you don't know and the only part you didn't know is called 'mass' and that's how you find out what it is?


Well, imagine that there was a box that you can throw money into. If you throw in $10 dollars, then when you look inside, you'll find items that can only total $10.

The Higgs particle costs $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. So in order to find it you had to throw in at least $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. The problem is that you can't actually see the Higgs particle. After it's been made, it falls apart. However, you can see what's left over and add up what you find. The CMS was sensitive to 5 channels. If the Higgs boson wasn't there, they'd see one thing. If it was, they'd see something else.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
July 04 2012 08:11 GMT
#358
On July 04 2012 17:06 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 17:03 acker wrote:
On July 04 2012 17:03 TBO wrote:
so I guess I can use Comic Sans in all my papers/presentations now and refer to a billion dollar funded project using it for their discoveries. Hard to refute it's viability as academic viable font now.

Maybe she's meta-trolling the scientific community.


No, she's actually just incredibly stubborn. People in the collaboration have tried to get her to make her presentations look more presentable, but she just ignores that


I think its more that she went through school before powerpoint presentations, and younger collegues are unlikely to criticize it too much.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
July 04 2012 08:12 GMT
#359
"Now, it looks simple..."

T_T
d=(^_^)z
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
July 04 2012 08:12 GMT
#360
On July 04 2012 17:10 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 17:03 r.Evo wrote:
On July 04 2012 17:01 kingjames01 wrote:
On July 04 2012 16:57 georgir wrote:
I don't get it. Gives other particles their mass? That doesn't even make sense, much like saying it gives other particles their energy or velocity. Why can this particle have its own mass but others can't? What gives the higgs boson its mass then? Is it turtles all the way down?


No, no. Think of it this way. You possess a characteristic called 'mass'. However, does that mean you'll be able to 'feel' other particles with 'mass'? How do you know that they are there? Even if you know they are there, what difference does your 'mass' make? The Higgs boson is the particle that tells your 'mass' what to do. It makes it so that objects with 'mass' are attracted to each other.



...and when you bang e.g. two photons against each other often enough you are able to read where 'mass' is written down on their charactersheet?

(I'm being serious here, this shit is hard for non-physics. =P)

Edit: Or rather, the entire book which is written down on them is smacked against the wall and you try to decypher what you know from what you don't know and the only part you didn't know is called 'mass' and that's how you find out what it is?


Well, imagine that there was a box that you can throw money into. If you throw in $10 dollars, then when you look inside, you'll find items that can only total $10.

The Higgs particle costs $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. So in order to find it you had to throw in at least $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. The problem is that you can't actually see the Higgs particle. After it's been made, it falls apart. However, you can see what's left over and add up what you find. The CMS was sensitive to 5 channels. If the Higgs boson wasn't there, they'd see one thing. If it was, they'd see something else.




Gotcha, thanks. <3
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