EPTHiggs Particle Announcement Incoming!!! - Page 19
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Daray
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:10 RodrigoX wrote: I'm sorry, but I mean I took physics in highschool, but I don't understand a thing theyre saying. Did they discover it or not lol? Not quite... but they highly suspect its there... they have found the equivalent of a Higgs Boson silhouette... just needs a bit more data until they confirm its the real thing | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
=) Anytime. | ||
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Samp
Canada783 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:10 kingjames01 wrote: Well, imagine that there was a box that you can throw money into. If you throw in $10 dollars, then when you look inside, you'll find items that can only total $10. The Higgs particle costs $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. So in order to find it you had to throw in at least $12.5 +/- 0.6 billion dollars. The problem is that you can't actually see the Higgs particle. After it's been made, it falls apart. However, you can see what's left over and add up what you find. The CMS was sensitive to 5 channels. If the Higgs boson wasn't there, they'd see one thing. If it was, they'd see something else. oh, that makes sense to me. awesome =) | ||
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Sandtrout
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:13 Daray wrote: The stream stops for me quite a bit... i think Twitch should've sponsored them I had a similar problem with the primary stream. Here's an alternate stream http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs_alternative.html | ||
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alderamin
80 Posts
It's Italian feminine style. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
cheers everyone | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:14 Sandtrout wrote: Why is listening to a presentation that I only understand partly so much more interesting than actually studying for my physics exams? QQ Because it gives you an excuse to not learn. Same here with my math exam... | ||
imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:10 NeoLearner wrote: Whoa, nice job on the 5 sigma. I''m going to jump on this physics-bandwagon and claim Higgs-boson confirmed  So now we have confirmed the model, I have 2 questions: 1) Anyone have an idea what's next? A collider the size of the planet to confirm even more elimentary particles? 2) When can I expect my gravity gun? Discovered is accurate as 5 sigma is the normal threshold used for "you definitely found something" but it isn't definitely the Higgs. They found a boson that acts like the Higgs and is at near the predicted mass for the Higgs. So it's likely but not definite. 1) Confirming this data and improving on the result. The LHC should be able to find other particles besides the Higgs. 2) Nobody knows when episode 3 will be released. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
Results, there's the bump!! | ||
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alderamin
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:17 imallinson wrote: Discovered is accurate as 5 sigma is the normal threshold used for "you definitely found something" but it isn't definitely the Higgs. They found a boson that acts like the Higgs and is at near the predicted mass for the Higgs. So it's likely but not definite. 1) Confirming this data and improving on the result. The LHC should be able to find other particles besides the Higgs. 2) Nobody knows when episode 3 will be released. You should probably add that "likely but not definite" sounds like 90% when you think about daily language, not like the 99.9999% their 5 sigma implies. =P | ||
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HomeWorld
Romania903 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:17 alderamin wrote: I am not a frequent twitter user but it's kinda funny to see how people now only rave about Comic Sans. Fabiola Gianotti is famous for always using Comic Sans and odd colour boxes. It's Italian femine style. That's because she's part of a well known organization by scientific community named "Comics sans frontieres" | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/pressreleases/Releases2012/PR17.12E.html | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
ATLAS found similar results as CMS: 5 sigma at ~ 126 GeV. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
If only one of them found a result, then it would be amazing. The fact that they both find it pretty much cements the discovery. At 5 sigma, it means that they have a 1 in 3.5 million chance to be wrong. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
On July 04 2012 17:13 meeple wrote: Not quite... but they highly suspect its there... they have found the equivalent of a Higgs Boson silhouette... just needs a bit more data until they confirm its the real thing So I guess from what I saw in the higgs boson explained video, that there is a bump in the data for them to say hey holy crap, we might have something, and only need a little more to say have a statistical "yes" to it? I mean, this might be over everyones head, how do they say predict what a higgs boson has? Like charge etc. Like, the the quanity that each particle is slowed down in say the field that higgs presented? | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
What I'm getting is they used some method to make the higgs, not sure IF it's higgs, but it seems similar | ||
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