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First Full HD LCD smartphone panel in the world by LG DisplayLG Display is back in the headlines with a first in the world where smartphone panels are concerned – we are talking about the Full HD LCD smartphone panel which has 5″ of viewing goodness for your eyeballs, resulting in what LG deems to be a “perfect cloud computing environment.” Obviously this 5″ Full HD LCD smartphone panel from LG is the highest resolution mobile panel to date in the market, enabling one to experience Full HD content in the palm of your hand, which is of the same quality as that seen on a TV and monitor. The LCD panel is based on AH-IPS (Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching) technology, where it will feature 440ppi (which is higher than the Retina Display on the iPhone 4/4S just in case you were wondering) and 1920 x 1080 resolution, coupled with a 16  widescreen aspect ratio. Other hardware specifications include the panel being 0.5″ larger and having 2.2 times the pixel density, as well as 1.3 times more advanced in ppi compared to its predecessor, the 4.5” panel at 329ppi and 1280 x 720 resolution. Sang-Deok Yeo, CTO and Executive Vice President of LG Display, said, “As smartphones become increasingly valued for how well they do multimedia and with the rapid growth of LTE enabling faster large file transfers, our new 5” Full HD LCD panel is certain to prove a significant asset to the mobile market. With the world’s highest resolution smartphone display, LG Display continues to remain a step ahead in developing the most innovative in display technology products.” I guess the question that is lingering across everyone’s minds would be this – just when will this display roll out? We are looking at the second half of this year, but it will debut at SID 2012 Display Week in Boston from June 4th onwards.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/first-full-hd-lcd-smartphone-panel-in-the-world-by-lg-display/
At 440 ppi we are looking at Full HD LCD TV quality in your hands. It seems like it will come with very little bezel, which means the smartphone will have the entire space taken up by the screen. For comparison's sake, the iPhone 4S has a pixel density of 326ppi.
EDIT: Okay it's a display but you get what I mean.
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Not a smartphone but a display.
At first I was like holy bezel batman, though. Wonder what the battery effect implications are though :/
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Ah, I doubt it would be easy to implement into smart phones as it is just a display. As for the battery I think it would have a large toll on the battery life and make it shorter than what it already is for most smart phones =.=
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Yeah should add they have not designed the phone for it to fit, but the technology to sell to others, which is a good buisness move.
Looks crystal clear in the pictures, would love to see it in a phone ASAP!!
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Lol, that's even more useless than the lights on gaming gear :D.
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man i hate thos smartphone companys. instead of making a badass battery they always go on more hardware. 
i dont want to load my freaking phone every day. haha 
but always nice to see improvements for the future.
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Well it's a display for a smartphone, meh. Still 440ppi and most smartphones using this panel will probably be around 5 inches anyway (which is the size of most modern smartphones or maybe 0.2" larger). Seriously, 440ppi is crazy... that's like having a portable HD TV in your hand.
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Holy shi.... Wonder when they start including naquadah generators in the packages with this baby in phone you would sure need one :D
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Full HD in the palm of your hand, now to get batteries that can power it 
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Having a 720p screen on a phone is like having a portable HD TV in your hand...the pixel density doesn't have any baring on that. I'd be interested to know how visible the difference actually is, as it will put a huge demand on graphics chips and battery life.
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I can't wait for this technology to become standardized and ready for the general public!
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For a lot of people I can't see how this is useful. If you don't see the screendoor effect (i.e. the case with most LCD screens these days that aren't pentile), what's the real point of increasing the PPI? The only reason I can think of is that you can display 1080P with 1:1 pixel mapping.
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On May 28 2012 20:36 Womwomwom wrote:
For a lot of people I can't see how this is useful. If you don't see the screendoor effect (i.e. the case with most LCD screens these days that aren't pentile), what's the real point of increasing the PPI? The only reason I can think of is that you can display 1080P with 1:1 pixel mapping.
You'd be surprised at how many people actually want higher pixel density on their smartphones. I would take a 440ppi smartphone over a 300ppi any day.
You're blind if you can't tell the difference between 440ppi and 300ppi.
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I made it clear:
If you don't see the screendoor effect (i.e. the case with most LCD screens these days that aren't pentile), what's the real point of increasing the PPI?
It doesn't mean people will benefit from it. Even with my face fairly close to, say, an HTC One X, Sony Xperia S, or iPhone 4, I don't see the pixels so again - what does improving the PPI actually do?
So I'm not surprised many people like bigger numbers. I mean such huge resolutions are useful in the air control and medical market but for the phone market? I'm not so sure. Critically, I'd like to see LG fix the flaws in IPS technology first rather than enter the old numbers pissing matches that seems to plague smartphones these days.
On May 28 2012 20:45 affinity_12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 20:36 Womwomwom wrote:
For a lot of people I can't see how this is useful. If you don't see the screendoor effect (i.e. the case with most LCD screens these days that aren't pentile), what's the real point of increasing the PPI? The only reason I can think of is that you can display 1080P with 1:1 pixel mapping. You're blind if you can't tell the difference between 440ppi and 300ppi.
Not when my face is around 25cm from the screen. Context is everything. If I look a lot closer, I can see how bad iOS does subpixel aliasing but I'm pretty much grasping at straws at that point.
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Actually, thinking about it it'd be pretty darn good at doing LG's passive 3D considering how it works.
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440PPI is like the difference between current smartphones and handsets back in the early 2000s. It's adding another 100 to 150 pixels PER INCH to your average modern day smartphone. That's a heck of a lot of pixels if you ask me and I think I would see a world of a difference lol.
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No, context is everything. I understand your job seems to be related to peddling everything LG and Samsung but let's have a proper discussion here.
Let me ask you, close do you look at your screen? Context is everything (this is a link to a blog of an retinal neuroscientist and not an underline), At standard viewing distances - that is 9 inches to 12 inches - you don't really get the screendoor effect and you're kidding yourself if you can see it at such a distance.
Yes that's a heck of a lot of pixels. Just like high end Intel processors have a crapload of threads. Still utterly useless because most people don't use it very often (if at all) in situations where its beneficial. ~300 PPI was huge because it completely eliminated the screendoor effect at commonly used viewing distances. 440PPI is not like the difference between current smartphones and handsets back in the early 2000s for this reason.
Its still useful, especially in LG's passive 3D technology which I think may be the main purpose for such technology, but the actual perceivable 2D benefits will be close to nill unless your face is right infront of the screen.
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As if anyone could actually see the difference between 720p and full hd on a screen that small.
My note can play 1080p videos, but I never use it since 720p videos are so much smaller and I can not tell the difference anyway.
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On May 28 2012 21:16 Womwomwom wrote:
No, context is everything. I understand your job seems to be related to peddling everything LG and Samsung but let's have a proper discussion here.
Nope. I like Dell solutions for most IPS options. It's not about LG and Samsung, I just like quality.
I don't care. Some people will argue over 30 PPI differences and some people care more about CPU, browser speeds, etc. 440PPI is a HUGE difference from today's smartphones... much more than fanboy trolls who argue over 30PPI differences.
Yes that's a heck of a lot of pixels. Just like high end Intel processors have a crapload of threads. Still utterly useless because most people don't use it very often (if at all) in situations where its beneficial. ~300 PPI was huge because it completely eliminated the screendoor effect at commonly used viewing distances. 440PPI is not like the difference between current smartphones and handsets back in the early 2000s for this reason.
You are forgetting the fact that this is a 5 inch display (about the same as the Galaxy Note)... much larger than typical 3-4 inch displays of current smartphones. Also, if LG can produce these at different sizes, then we'll be seeing 7 to 10 inch tablets which use 440PPI screens. Yes, I WILL be able to see a HUGE difference at 440PPI on a 5inch+ screen. I'm not blind.
Its still useful, especially in LG's passive 3D technology which I think may be the main purpose for such technology, but the actual perceivable 2D benefits will be close to nill unless your face is right infront of the screen.
Well why do Apple boast so much about their iPad 3's high PPI display? (which, mind you, is manufactured by Samsung and LG).
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Well why do Apple boast so much about their iPad 3's high PPI display? (which, mind you, is manufactured by Samsung and LG).
Because the iPad 2 had a PPI of 132? At a viewing distance of 12 inches, you can still clearly see the pixels. The iPad 3 eliminates this problem.
I thought I made myself clear. With ~300 PPI, at typical viewing distances of 9-12 inches, you cannot see a difference. I even linked an academic source that basically confirms this.
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On May 28 2012 22:12 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +Well why do Apple boast so much about their iPad 3's high PPI display? (which, mind you, is manufactured by Samsung and LG). Because the iPad 2 had a PPI of 132? At a viewing distance of 12 inches, you can still clearly see the pixels. The iPad 3 eliminates this problem.
You just contradicted yourself. You said that at a viewing distance of 9-12 inches you would be "kidding yourself" to see the difference.
Your theory of a threshold existing for noticing a difference between two screens with different PPI's is false. Then how come I can immediately tell the difference between 30FPS and 100FPS when scientists have said that it is theoretically impossible to see the difference?
264-132 = 132PPI difference
440-280 = 160PPI difference
I chose 280PPI as the average for smartphones starting from 2009. Could be lower or higher but you get the point.
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