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On May 11 2012 09:15 Liquid`Drone wrote: the notion that european beer is superior to american beer used to be true, but with the "explosion" of microbrews in the past decade-ish, it's no longer an accurate assertion. In fact, "european beer" and "american" beer are largely worthless terms, as they both encompass super rich varieties. belgian trappist beer is vastly different from british ale, or german weissbeer, or czech pilsner - and those are just some examples. And as americans have really taken microbrews to their liking, american beer nowadays is largely "whatever european beer they feel like making".
I also have never tried making my own beer, but frankly it seems very easy to achieve great results. I have two friends who have been making beer that pretty much matches whatever beer I can buy anywhere, and they've both described their brewing as very effort-less.
Youre soo wrong. Its VERY difficult to make you own beer, it takes a long time, and you need to do it excacly the right way, otherwise everything will taste like crap. Try for youself and see. Years ago we treid to make our own beer at my gymnasium with the help of our teacher who was a professional beer brewer, and only after several failed attemps we made a decent keg, however it contained 12% alcohol.
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On May 11 2012 12:00 Omnipresent wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 11:48 Equity213 wrote:On May 11 2012 11:36 Forikorder wrote: should i attempt to stick in it and hope i get used to it or am i just really sensitive to the taste and not going to get better? One major problem is that 95% of what people drink at parties and what is served at bars is low quality stuff, mass produced to get people trashed. JackDaniels, Jose Cuervo, Smirinoff, and Captian Morgans are CRAP. A good whisky or tequila wont have that big ethanol aroma/flavour that makes people cringe after a shot. Get onto google and read some reviews. Theres far more options out there than most people realize. A bit of research and a couple extra bucks can get you something light years ahead in quality. However! It took me a long time to start enjoying the taste of alcohol. Some people never aquire a taste for it. Dont try to rush it. You should reconsider Jack Daniels. If you don't like whiskey, that's alright, but there's nothing wrong with Jack. It's nowhere near as good as a lot of stuff in the whiskey thread, but you could do a lot worse. Also, if you're mix vodka, you're dumb to buy anything more expensive than Smirnoff. It's not perfect, but it's distilled enough to be relatively flavorless.
How much does Stoli vodka cost in the US ? Here in China it's only $8 but Smirnoff (what an awful vodka btw) is $14...
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How is this different from the drunk thread?
On May 11 2012 11:50 -Kaiser- wrote:Judge me all you want, but I love my alcoholic chocolate milk. ![[image loading]](http://zeytintree.com/store/image/cache/2012/01/Vodka-Mudshake-vodka-Original-Chocolate-270ml_4.25TL_9414453923679_864x648-500x500.jpg) YES 100000%!!!
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Red Wine sometimes, only when I am alone during the weekends or with the right person  Russian Vodka, to be specific Ruski Standard Platinum and Stolichnaya, with friends. Whiskey - currently Jack Daniels and Jameson, usually with the friend, sometime when I am in a specific mood. Beer - in Poland I used to drink during weekends and it was almost always good and expensive regional beer. Now when I live in Finland I drink Karhu III and Carlsberg. Alot. And everyday. Śliwowica (Slivovitz) - original Polish liquor made of plums - 70%, perfect for cold, cold Arctic Circle in Finland
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On May 11 2012 16:58 bgrN. wrote:
The overlord of all beer. Taste a sip out of the delicious bastard and you can´t go back to ordinary beer, or you can, but it just wont be the same. 100/100 @ ratebeer.com.
Rochefort is too good. Last week I had the 6, 8 & 10. Pleasant week.
A favorite beer when I'm out drinking is Coopers sparkling ale though.
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Depending upon the occasion:
Corona beer I find delicious on a warm summer evening beside the barbecue.
Pear cider (never met one I didn't like) if I'm in the mood for something a little sweeter.
White wine (sauv blanc, a very few chardonnay blends) with pizza or white meat / veg pasta
Rum+coke with salty nibbles.
Red wine with steak or red meat pasta or cheese or chocolate
Whiskey (something upfront like Talisker) as the fancy takes me
Baileys + Cointreau + Tia Maria + ice at parties. A friend bought me a triple of that on my wedding day; it came in a pint glass.
EDIT: Forgot Mojitos. Fuck yeah, mojitos.
Damnit, now I want a mojito.
EDIT EDIT: Forgot Absinthe. Mmmm....
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Summer time :
![[image loading]](http://www.carlsberg-cottingham.com.tw/c/images/stories/CubaLibre.jpg)
Winter time :
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All around year beer :
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But every time i go to a bar with a good bartender i go with the <<Surprise me>> option.
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When it comes to alcohol, I drink pretty much anything, though the obvious favorite is beer, preferably dark ales and porters. Favorite beer would probably be Innis & Gun though, not all that dark, but intense flavor. If I want something easy to drink for a hot day etc, I would definitely go for something like Asahi superdry or Suntory premium malt, but asahi is generally not the same when bought outside of Japan (different breweries) and suntory premium malt can probably not even be found outside of Japan... Most scandinavian lagers work out as well though.
As for non beer, Cider is great (though not the English dry kind), drink that a lot. I'm not a fan of wine, but it's fine with a nice dinner. Wiskey is nice in small doses, or mixed with ginger ale if you want to get drunk of it.
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![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Zaranoff2.jpg/250px-Zaranoff2.jpg) With grape soda, mmhmm.
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It's amazing how many beers from Wisconsin are on there. My fav beer won gold for Maibock 
![[image loading]](http://www.thedailypage.com/media/2009/02/26/bh022609.jpg)
Shit is soooooo goooooood.
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Big fan of bourbons. What I usually get..
If i'm feeling cheap..
![[image loading]](http://danmurphys.com.au/media/DM/Product/140x375/91653_0_9999_med_v1_m56577569834427684.jpg)
If i'm feeling something nicer..
![[image loading]](http://www.theshout.com.au/image/Jim%20Beam%20Black150.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/75/Makers_Mark.jpg/250px-Makers_Mark.jpg)
If I feel like splashing out a little..
![[image loading]](http://www.discoverywines.com/images/labels/elijah-craig-kentucky-straight-bourbon-whiskey-12-year.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTbaBV5-tOo-z38KYPzlI9nKT8F6LclrVjJZj66dWMkqTpT3foIpGZQZW1Q) ![[image loading]](http://www.officialpsds.com/images/thumbs/gentleman-jack-psd57181.png)
Though if there's something I haven't tried on special I'll usually give it a go. Just finished off a recently, went down better than I expected.
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I drink quite a variety of liquids, but for the enjoyment of taste (well 99% of time) and when drinking not at home it's just beer because anything else you can get is just rubbish or too expensive compared to what it normally costs (wine may be an exception here).
I like Baileys for my coffee in the morning (same effect as milk and sugar ). Good German or Czech beer (because that's what's available) Whisky (!) (especially Islay, Scotch, Japanese, sometimes Bourbon) Wine (not really an expert here but one I fondly remember was the Papillon), dunno which year though )
Stuff like this (no hard feelings) is basically a nightmare for me. + Show Spoiler +
And I can only urge everyone (who enjoys alcohol for taste) to at least once in their lifetime try a good whisky (and no Jack or John doesn't really count )
Look for recommendations here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284755
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Not big on beer. Dos Equis (green bottle) is nice, though. Modelo Especial is okay, reminds me of Corona, but cheaper.
I'm a margarita guy. Homemade ftw. I'd be happy to share my recipe with anyone who wants to give it a shot. I prefer to use cheap tequila for margs, and here's why...
The subtleties that make premium tequila taste so great are easily lost when mixed with other liquids. A cheap, blanco (silver) tequila works great for margs imho. Don't waste your money on expensive tequila if you're making margs.
Patron is very popular (perhaps because of marketing) but it is worth noting that while it works great for getting you highly intoxicated, I do not find that it tastes anything like a tequila "should" taste (completely subjective, I know).
Edit : Forgot to mention how great Amaretto is. Disaronno is good, but sweet. Reminds me of Dr. Pepper. Marie Brizzard is very nice too.
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I love rum :D
![[image loading]](http://www.celler-mestres.com/admin/photos/produits/180_1.jpg)
I'd really love to taste some Havana Club Maximo...
+ Show Spoiler + " This Rum is a blend of many different ages of rum, repeatedly blended with fresh sugarcane distillate and then further aged. The final act of blending, the "toque" produces the finished product. Its retail price is set at $1743 per bottle"
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I almost only drink beer.
I like some dutch pilsners like brand grolsch and hertog jan. Of the real beers i really like belgium beers, like la chouffe, leffe and karmeliet (and many others, but they don't come to mind.)
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On May 11 2012 17:21 Asturas wrote:Śliwowica (Slivovitz) - original Polish liquor made of plums - 70%, perfect for cold, cold Arctic Circle in Finland  Quoting to plug Slivovitz some more (Schligowitz is the Germanisation, for the interested) - used to make our own together with my father, but our plum tree died, so I have to get by on bought stuff... But it's still great!
Also, a good Irish Whiskey is a fine drink indeed.
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