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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 28 2012 00:24 GMT
#101
Nutella is unhealthy?
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
April 28 2012 00:25 GMT
#102
On April 28 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On April 28 2012 09:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
I never ate Nutella but they always advertised it as nutritious and healthy for your kids so....

did you actually believe that?


Why is that relevant?
So a company should be able to exploit people with low IQs?
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2012 00:25 GMT
#103
I haven't looked the pleadings, but I guarantee that the claims are based on the violation of a consumer protection statute. Any company that violates one of those (or comes close) is really, really stupid. It is the surest way to get on the fast track to swift kick in the ass because those statues always have built in punitive damages (usually treble damages ie a tripling of whatever the compensatory damages are). That is why the settlement was so high.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 28 2012 00:25 GMT
#104
On April 28 2012 09:17 Defacer wrote:
Does anyone else have a craving for Nutella now?

Yes, very yes. And I was disappointed to find out that we're out of it right now at my house. My mom makes cookies and biscotti with Nutella in it. Anything with that stuff in it is delicious.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
April 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#105
Chalk up another win for the morons of society.

On April 28 2012 09:16 lolspoon wrote:
USA never stops surprise me


Get the fuck out of here, please.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#106
On April 28 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
I never ate Nutella but they always advertised it as nutritious and healthy for your kids so....

did you actually believe that?


Why wouldn't I if I've never tried it?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 28 2012 00:27 GMT
#107
According to the product label, the main ingredients of Nutella are sugar and vegetable oils (mostly palm oil[5]), followed by hazelnut, cocoa solids, and skimmed milk. In the United States, Nutella contains soy products.[6] Nutella is marketed as "hazelnut cream" in many countries. Under Italian law, it cannot be labeled as a chocolate cream, as it does not meet minimum cocoa solids concentration criteria. About half of the calories in Nutella come from fat (11 g in a 37 g serving, or 99 kcal out of 200 kcal) and about 40% of the calories come from sugar (20 g, 80 kcal).

all of that healthy goodness.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 28 2012 00:27 GMT
#108
On April 28 2012 09:15 Roe wrote:
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On April 28 2012 09:10 semantics wrote:

On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where they hell did they say it was healthy?

It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular.

It's wrong to be sued because of what is "implied". There is absolutely no objective argument in this kind of decision.

msleading people is to get more money is morally wrong in my book, just to crack down on flat out lies although easy to point out isn't following the spirit of such laws. Misleading people isn't always about explicit things.

If i put on a job application i went to say Berkley and dance around graduating, it's strongly implied that i went to UC Berkeley and hold a degree from there, that would still be considers lieing on your job application would it not? Just because you don't flat out say something and let other people do the work doesn't mean you haven't done something wrong. A lie of omission is still a lie.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2012 00:27 GMT
#109
On April 28 2012 09:23 lodeet wrote:
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On April 28 2012 09:19 Nazeron wrote:
this makes me pretty angry, i mean how can you be rewarded for stupidity? there is something wrong with the legal system when shit like this can happen


Of course there is something wrong however rather than being jealous come to america and abuse it.

Lawsuits are a huge industry thats why there are ads on tv about it all day long.

You'd be putting a lot of people out of buisness if you couldn't sue for stupid shit all day it's just part of the US.

Everyone thinks that lawsuits are abusive until they get fucked over by someone and realize that they need a lawyer to set things right. There is a reason why the system exists.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 28 2012 00:27 GMT
#110
And by the way, being charged only $3.5 million for advertising an unhealthy product as healthy is a joke.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
April 28 2012 00:27 GMT
#111
What's sad is people's reactions here. We got so used to bullshit marketing that we expect companies to get away with anything. I'm sorry, if your product is a fat greasy chocolate paste (which I absolutely love by the way, I eat it with a spoon), you shouldn't be allowed to advertise it as something healthy. If this sort of lawsuit punishes blatant marketing lies then it's a good thing.
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
April 28 2012 00:28 GMT
#112
On April 28 2012 09:20 Roe wrote:
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On April 28 2012 09:18 Fischbacher wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:15 Roe wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:10 semantics wrote:

On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where they hell did they say it was healthy?

It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular.

It's wrong to be sued because of what is "implied". There is absolutely no objective argument in this kind of decision.

When you advertise anything, you are responsible for any claim you make, explicit or implied. Period.

That would make all advertisement a valid target for multi-million dollar lawsuits, and with your reasoning anyone suing against an advertisement should win, regardless of the circumstances.


So you're saying it's okay because everyone does it and it would make every misleading ad a target ? With your reasoning it should be easy to legalize murder i guess.
It's manipulation and it's not okay, and with his reasoning everyone suing against a misleading advertisement should win. Everyone suing against a non-misleading ad would loose.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 28 2012 00:29 GMT
#113
On April 28 2012 09:25 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
I never ate Nutella but they always advertised it as nutritious and healthy for your kids so....

did you actually believe that?


Why is that relevant?
So a company should be able to exploit people with low IQs?

well, because most false advertising laws require "reliance" meaning that you had to rely on their misrepresentations to your detriment. she had been eating this for years. its hard to say that she continued to think it was healthy after eating it and being able to see the ingredients / health facts on the label.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
April 28 2012 00:29 GMT
#114
I hate lawsuits like this so much..although I did take advantage of a class action lawsuit against ASUS for not providing recovery DVDs for my laptop, so I guess they can serve some benefit, though I really disagree with monetary compensation. If she was really concerned about her kids, I think a public apology and changes to product advertising and labeling should be sufficient, there's nothing money can do to undo whatever "damage" was done in the first place.

With that said, I despise nutella as a product because I think it tastes like I'm eating shit, so I could really care less that they're losing money
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 28 2012 00:30 GMT
#115
Nutella is easily the most overrated thing I have ever tried in my life. Disgusting.

Can't believe this girl got 3.5 million dollars in damages though, thats some real bullshit right there.
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Maekchu
Profile Joined February 2011
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:31:50
April 28 2012 00:31 GMT
#116
People do really misinterpret advertisements.

After watching the advertisement, which is linked somewhere in this thread. They nowhere in it claim that this product is healthy. Is claims it is an easy breakfast (cause it is... Put some on a bread and it's ready to go), children like it (Children like anything with choco in it), it's made of simple quality ingredients (doesn't mean that quality ingredients can't make you fat).

Yes, I do agree people having the right to sue major corporations if the people suing actually have a case. But this case is just ridiculous, and I'm surprised Ferrero even decided to settle to pay out money to the woman. I suppose, it's all in order to avoid major focus and show some goodwill.

dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 28 2012 00:31 GMT
#117
oh, better than wikipedia, i found the actual label. all of that healthy goodness~!

[image loading]
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 28 2012 00:31 GMT
#118
As far as I can remember, Nutella's catchphrase has always been "what would the world/breakfast be like without Nutella?".
And then marketing babble about being "balanced" and "complete" for breakfast, with a full load of tastiness.
Never heard anything about being healthy, nope.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
April 28 2012 00:31 GMT
#119
On April 28 2012 09:02 Poffel wrote:
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On April 28 2012 08:59 radscorpion9 wrote:
On April 28 2012 08:51 SgtCoDFish wrote:
I saw a retarded thing like this earlier.

I was opening my box of 12 eggs and saw printed on the top:

"Allergy Advice: Contains Eggs."

Anyone who didn't work that one out probably deserves the allergic reaction. Sometimes things are so stupid.


That's a hilarious example XD. You couldn't make it more obvious if you tried.

But hey, the companies really shouldn't get away with lying. Maybe the lady is dumb (or maybe she's just trying to milk the system for money), but there should be some kind of penalty for false advertising, no exceptions. Because the moment they allow it on account of "it should be obvious they're lying" it opens up areas where companies can exploit the consumer in other ways.

Hard to top the eggs containing eggs, but I'll try: On the wrapping of my ham it says "free of gluten and lactose". I don't even know what's worse, the implication that meat could possibly contain bread and milk, or the implication that bread and milk are toxic.

Gluten and/or lactose intolerances are not uncommon.

It isn't all that ridiculous either, what if it was for fish or something which was covered and cooked with bread crumbs? Better just to be safe than sorry and slap that sign on everything that they know for sure doesn't contain any meat or gluten.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
April 28 2012 00:33 GMT
#120
On April 28 2012 09:25 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:23 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
I never ate Nutella but they always advertised it as nutritious and healthy for your kids so....

did you actually believe that?


Why is that relevant?
So a company should be able to exploit people with low IQs?


Exactly.
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