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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 28 2012 00:52 GMT
#141
Yo I eat nutella almost every day, can I get some of this money even if I know its not healthy?
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#142
On April 28 2012 09:44 Tewks44 wrote:
I think people are missing the important part of the story here. The Nutella ad claimed that 2 slices of bread with Nutella, a glass of milk, and a fruit was considered a "balanced breakfast." For anyone who thinks "balanced breakfast" means anything but "healthy" then please explain what else "balanced breakfast" could be interpreted as. The problem is the 2 slices of bread can only have 10 grams of Nutella each to be considered part of a "balanced breakfast." Considering the ad depicted two slices of bread covered in Nutella (thus implying the image was the "balanced breakfast" described), yet one serving size if 57 grams, it seems that this commercial was intentionally manipulative. I personally thinks this is a ridiculous lawsuit, but you gotta at least see the other side of the argument.

I agree. The manipulation of language and common association ("balanced breakfast" ==> healthy) is obvious.

Nutella is tasty shit, but it's basically garbage, and probably shouldn't be consumed by adults or children.
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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:54:34
April 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#143
Anything that takes money from big evil corporations and generally makes like miserable for a business man is good. I dont really care about anything else. I just like seeing rich people suffer.

~end sarcasm
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:56:14
April 28 2012 00:54 GMT
#144
On April 28 2012 09:49 liberal wrote:
They never once used the word healthy. They never made a single health claim in the ad. My god they even put in print on the ad that you should have a small amount as part of a balanced breakfast, and we still claim there is false advertising somewhere? Isn't the whole purpose of fine print to avoid frivolous lawsuits like this?

Do people seriously think this company deserves to be sued because they showed too much spread on a piece of toast?


I believe that a company should be sued for as long as there is even the smallest, most convoluted argument that can make a case for it. Especially when it comes to advertising.

It basically serves the purpose of cleaning up the trash and forcing if not honesty, then a situation where people who write ads will measure the words they use and triple-check the statements they make 50 times over before committing it to make sure there's nothing false or misleading that could be read from it.

There's no drawbacks to being as strict as possible about it, and there are plenty of benefits to it. So I see no reason why they should be cut any slack.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#145
On April 28 2012 09:53 Equity213 wrote:
Anything that takes money from big evil corporations and generally makes like miserable for a business man is good. I dont really care about anything else. I just like seeing rich people suffer.

~end sarcasm

justice for all, except those we dont like!

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#146
On April 28 2012 09:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:53 Equity213 wrote:
Anything that takes money from big evil corporations and generally makes like miserable for a business man is good. I dont really care about anything else. I just like seeing rich people suffer.

~end sarcasm

justice for all, except those we dont like!


Companies aren't people.
lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#147
On April 28 2012 09:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
False advertising is stupid. Glad to see nutella take a hit although it tastes good. It's not like all the money goes to the lady either. They do 2.5 million in damages to society, they pay the price.

After spending a few weeks in China watching the advertisements there, I just got so sick of people preying on the uneducated to make quick money. I remember this one advertisement for a brain strengthening helmet. Sure most people in China know to stay away from that, but a few, especially the ones moving to cities might buy some and permanently damage the minds of their children. South Park recently had an episode on the jewelry channels and how they tried to make money off of senility. I don't want our advertising to become like that.


You don't think we are already there? The whole purpose of adversiting is to get people to buy your product. Ads have been misleading for a really long time. It's a sales tatic. If you look closely at most ads they don't actually tell you anything important about the product but rather mislead you into creating your own ideas about what the product is. All the real important details are withheld. They are usually available too but most people are too lazy to do the research to find out the truth.

The point of adversiting is to make a product look or seem desirable not to give facts. To trick you into think you are being patriotic by buying this product to establish a certain "status" since our whole social system is based on your "status". You're no one if your not in debt driving the nicest car owning designer brands and living in a dream home.

floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#148


These are the types of commercials I see for nutella all the time here

They are always marketed to children as a breakfast meal, which is just ridiculous and stupid. I am kind of glad they got sued, but I wish the money went somewhere other than into the pockets of dumb parents
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:58:10
April 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#149
On April 28 2012 09:56 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:53 Equity213 wrote:
Anything that takes money from big evil corporations and generally makes like miserable for a business man is good. I dont really care about anything else. I just like seeing rich people suffer.

~end sarcasm

justice for all, except those we dont like!


Companies aren't people.

lol. in america, corporations are treated the same as people for lawsuits.

boo yah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#150
On April 28 2012 09:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Yo I eat nutella almost every day, can I get some of this money even if I know its not healthy?


If you want at most $20 sure why not
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 28 2012 00:58 GMT
#151
On April 28 2012 09:57 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:56 Talin wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:53 Equity213 wrote:
Anything that takes money from big evil corporations and generally makes like miserable for a business man is good. I dont really care about anything else. I just like seeing rich people suffer.

~end sarcasm

justice for all, except those we dont like!


Companies aren't people.

lol. in america, corporations are treated the same as people for lawsuits.


Yes, well. Plenty of things I could say about that, off-topic though.
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
April 28 2012 00:58 GMT
#152
You should blame the system. Nothing she did was wrong.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
April 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#153
kinda reminds me of people like my mom.

she says this for example, "this isnt fattening because it had 0 grams of fat"

if you have any knowledge of nutrition, you will see how stupid that statement really is.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Teoman
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway382 Posts
April 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#154
As much as it has been said in this thread i will only echo it as it is of grave importance!

I don't think it is good that people become millionares of off basicly being dumb/slightly clever by just suing something obvious and i think that is something that the USA have to get through all of that "we can't change the law because someone in the far past said that it should be like that" stuff and start changing laws according to how the world works today.

However, what i only hate about todays consumer society is the blatant lying and exagerating. The luring and the exploitation of fine arts like humour, just to sell a product or a service! I am sick of companys doing this, and i think it is fair that they feel the hammer of justice when they once in a while get caught with it.

I want cleat objective advertising. I want to know what i am actually seeing instead of some over happy family eating burgers at mcdonalds, or drinking coca cola. I like the freedom in our society to buy what we want, but i don't like every company taking advantage of this freedom to use every means neccesary to make us buy their product, no matter the qualityor cost!

Companys should advertise their product for what it is, wether it is unhealthy or not. And not use every luring tactic in the book to lure people into buying there product only.

(slightly (quite) under the vodka influence while writing this, still think it turned out good :D will edit in the morning if i see a need for it)
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
April 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#155
On April 28 2012 09:57 floor exercise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl22YOOCreE

These are the types of commercials I see for nutella all the time here

They are always marketed to children as a breakfast meal, which is just ridiculous and stupid. I am kind of glad they got sued, but I wish the money went somewhere other than into the pockets of dumb parents


holy hell.

that is the most misleading and blatant false advertising I've seen in a long time.

"Something I can feel good serving my kids"

lol wtf...
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
eFonSG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
April 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#156
On April 28 2012 09:35 Marti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:27 semantics wrote:
msleading people is to get more money is morally wrong in my book, just to crack down on flat out lies although easy to point out isn't following the spirit of such laws. Misleading people isn't always about explicit things.

If i put on a job application i went to say Berkley and dance around graduating, it's strongly implied that i went to UC Berkeley and hold a degree from there, that would still be considers lieing on your job application would it not? Just because you don't flat out say something and let other people do the work doesn't mean you haven't done something wrong. A lie of omission is still a lie.

THIS
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:27 xDaunt wrote:
Everyone thinks that lawsuits are abusive until they get fucked over by someone and realize that they need a lawyer to set things right. There is a reason why the system exists.

THIS
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:27 Talin wrote:
And by the way, being charged only $3.5 million for advertising an unhealthy product as healthy is a joke.

And finally this :
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On April 28 2012 09:27 MilesTeg wrote:
What's sad is people's reactions here. We got so used to bullshit marketing that we expect companies to get away with anything. I'm sorry, if your product is a fat greasy chocolate paste (which I absolutely love by the way, I eat it with a spoon), you shouldn't be allowed to advertise it as something healthy. If this sort of lawsuit punishes blatant marketing lies then it's a good thing.


And please, for god's sake people stop it with the " lol only in america " every half decent country has laws against this and thank god they do, because without those nothing stops big companies from manipulating you. Which they already do for the most part.

Yes the average person knows nutella isn't healthy. But a big company shouldn't be allowed to trick you or your subconcious into thinking it is. If you got told 100 times a day " nutella is healthy " you'd end up believing it.


Edit : it's amazing how people just show up and comment without even reading what other posters have said, or sometimes without even reading the op. The youtube video alone must have been posted three times already.



But its based off a random persons inference of what happened in the commercial. The commercial didnt say "Nutella is healthy, eat it". The ingredients are on the back on the container, sure there should be laws to prevent false advertising and holding big companies accountable. BUT there also should be protection for the companies from lawsuits like this one. The ingredients are clearly marked on the container, it should be the consumers responsibility to read the ingredients, especially without a real false advertisement.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#157
On April 28 2012 09:58 Herper wrote:
You should blame the system. Nothing she did was wrong.


No, the system works fine in this case. Funniest part is that the article only creates additional negative publicity for their product.
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
April 28 2012 01:04 GMT
#158
On April 28 2012 09:49 liberal wrote:
They never once used the word healthy. They never made a single health claim in the ad. My god they even put in print on the ad that you should have a small amount as part of a balanced breakfast, and we still claim there is false advertising somewhere? Isn't the whole purpose of fine print to avoid frivolous lawsuits like this?

Do people seriously think this company deserves to be sued because they showed too much spread on a piece of toast?


Yeah we should make false advertising laws more lax. I mean, I'm sure corporations will be reasonable about it, right?
Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
April 28 2012 01:04 GMT
#159


This version of the commercial very clearly claims nutella is healthy. It is just as deceptive as a bait and switch.
Make more anything.
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
April 28 2012 01:06 GMT
#160
On April 28 2012 08:45 Roe wrote:
What the hell is so damaging about nuttella that makes you need millions of dollars to fix???



fundraising for that time machine so she can prevent herself from buying it of course
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