On April 28 2012 09:03 AgentChaos wrote:
at least the big company loses the case
at least the big company loses the case
take note everyone. its attitudes like this that force big companies to settle claims that have low legitimacy.
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:03 AgentChaos wrote: at least the big company loses the case take note everyone. its attitudes like this that force big companies to settle claims that have low legitimacy. | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:01 Geisterkarle wrote: personally, if I would own a company, I would not sell in the USA (doesn't matter what sell), because it is the only country with those crazy laws and lawsuits! Not really. Anyway, USA may have a reputation for crazy laws and lawsuits, but this is not one of them. | ||
Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:02 tree.hugger wrote: You know, it's interesting about lawsuits like these, I used to think they were really stupid, but there's a weird leap of faith that's implicit in that argument. If this woman didn't have a case, then how did she win against a corporation fully able to hire a strong defense team? How did the case proceed to court if it didn't have merit? To win a lawsuit like this, you need to actually be able to present convincing evidence to a lot of smart people. That's how the system works, and it's a good system. So yeah, we can all laugh at things like this, but almost always, there's an actual case behind this. Instances of bad lawsuits making it to court, let alone winning are tremendously rare. The old grandmother with the coffee suit? The coffee actually was way too hot, she received third degree burns and almost died from the spill. That's obviously unacceptable, but since she was gagged as part of the settlement, she wasn't able to plead her case to the media, while McDonalds lawyers and all different politicians were allowed to run around drumming up support for tort reform. I dunno, when you look deeper, there's almost always a legit case. And don't feel sorry for Nutella, 3.5 million is nothing for a company like this. Yup. Relevant "Article" | ||
TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On April 28 2012 08:53 mindspike wrote: Read and make sense of the nutrition facts, nutrition is very easy to grasp and how to read labels. People who don't and complain otherwise deserve to be overweight/obese.Show nested quote + On April 28 2012 08:49 Resent wrote: it says 2.5mil will be spread out to all the claimants, so i guess she gets the other 1mill? No... most of it will go to the lawyers. Not sure why people are complaining about the lawsuit. How else are average people supposed to get accountability from big companies? | ||
mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2011cv00205/343346/ | ||
lodeet
United States147 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote: The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article ) If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won. Although ridiculous... i can see how.. Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance. | ||
Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:07 dAPhREAk wrote: take note everyone. its attitudes like this that force big companies to settle claims that have low legitimacy. Every time any individual or "class" can get any amount of money out of a company through the courts its a huge victory. Corporations have legal departments and deep pockets to mount legal defence and to do what is essentially legal bullying in the hopes of getting people to settle for less than what they deserve. A multinational losing a lawsuit is like a Korean losing to a foreigner in the GSL | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
On April 28 2012 08:57 TALegion wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2012 08:56 Netsky wrote: On April 28 2012 08:54 TALegion wrote: I'm losing more and more faith in this country every single day. Is it like this everywhere else? I need to see this trial. I can't believe that someone, more or less and entire jury, accepted this without there being some HUGE argument that this article doesn't talk about. No, they settled. Thank god. But still, why? This is beyond the usual bull-shit justice system. You seriously don't understand why they settled, often in the US settling is done in the pretext that only the company/person is allowed to talk about the case to the press it also allows files to not be made available to the public etc. This allows companies to spin to their liking the famous McDonnals case is a perfect example of this, mcdonnalds knew that their coffee could and did case 3rd degree burns within seconds of contact with the skin, requiring skin graphing it was the negligence and physical injury that was being brought to them by hundreds of people. http://www.hotcoffeethemovie.com/Default.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants There is a good book on popular so called frivolous lawsuit cases but i forget the name of the book, it also talks about arbitration and the good and bad of that gaining popularity. Often companies use settling as a way to spin tort reform etc because they control what gets sent to the media allowing them to spin the story to make them out as the victim, but there is no need for reform as any judge not insane would throw out stupid cases. It's funny how people think justice system lacks common sense as if judges weren't people capable of similar thought. On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote: Where they hell did they say it was healthy? It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular. | ||
Toxi78
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Sverigevader
Sweden388 Posts
Nutella is just like butter but instead of just fat, it's sugar/carbs. Problem is obviously that this so called mother gave them too much... You wouldn't give your child too much butter right? | ||
FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
This seems so american. | ||
Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:09 TheRPGAddict wrote: Show nested quote + Read and make sense of the nutrition facts, nutrition is very easy to grasp and how to read labels. People who don't and complain otherwise deserve to be overweight/obese.On April 28 2012 08:53 mindspike wrote: On April 28 2012 08:49 Resent wrote: it says 2.5mil will be spread out to all the claimants, so i guess she gets the other 1mill? No... most of it will go to the lawyers. Not sure why people are complaining about the lawsuit. How else are average people supposed to get accountability from big companies? That's not what he was asking. In fact, that's not even relevant to this case. Nobody deserves to be lied to, whether they fall for it or not. And when it happens in media, the responsible side should be held accountable for it. | ||
EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:09 lodeet wrote: Skim Milk is fantastic. Idk what world you live in.Show nested quote + On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote: The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNLUFA34iw If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won. Although ridiculous... i can see how.. Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance. | ||
YouMake
United States262 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:12 mR.bONG789 wrote: the lady is either really really smart and realised that she could get heaps of money off this, or really really dumb and actually believed these ads so false advertisement is okay in your book? | ||
mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:12 mR.bONG789 wrote: the lady is either really really smart and realised that she could get heaps of money off this, or really really dumb and actually believed these ads She doesn't get heaps of money. Its a class action lawsuit ...money is split between anyone who bought a can of nutella in california and files a claim. | ||
Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:10 semantics wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote: Where they hell did they say it was healthy? It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular. It's wrong to be sued because of what is "implied". There is absolutely no objective argument in this kind of decision. | ||
lodeet
United States147 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:12 TheRPGAddict wrote: Show nested quote + Skim Milk is fantastic. Idk what world you live in.On April 28 2012 09:09 lodeet wrote: On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote: The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNLUFA34iw If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won. Although ridiculous... i can see how.. Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance. I live in the real world and im a nutritionist and the ad states "REDUCED FAT MILK" which is technically 2% milk. And while you may think Skim Milk is "fantastic" that has nothing to do with its nutritional value. | ||
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