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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 28 2012 00:07 GMT
#61
On April 28 2012 09:03 AgentChaos wrote:
at least the big company loses the case

take note everyone. its attitudes like this that force big companies to settle claims that have low legitimacy.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 28 2012 00:08 GMT
#62
On April 28 2012 09:01 Geisterkarle wrote:
personally, if I would own a company, I would not sell in the USA (doesn't matter what sell), because it is the only country with those crazy laws and lawsuits!


Not really.

Anyway, USA may have a reputation for crazy laws and lawsuits, but this is not one of them.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 28 2012 00:08 GMT
#63
On April 28 2012 09:02 tree.hugger wrote:
You know, it's interesting about lawsuits like these, I used to think they were really stupid, but there's a weird leap of faith that's implicit in that argument. If this woman didn't have a case, then how did she win against a corporation fully able to hire a strong defense team? How did the case proceed to court if it didn't have merit? To win a lawsuit like this, you need to actually be able to present convincing evidence to a lot of smart people. That's how the system works, and it's a good system.

So yeah, we can all laugh at things like this, but almost always, there's an actual case behind this. Instances of bad lawsuits making it to court, let alone winning are tremendously rare.

The old grandmother with the coffee suit? The coffee actually was way too hot, she received third degree burns and almost died from the spill. That's obviously unacceptable, but since she was gagged as part of the settlement, she wasn't able to plead her case to the media, while McDonalds lawyers and all different politicians were allowed to run around drumming up support for tort reform.

I dunno, when you look deeper, there's almost always a legit case. And don't feel sorry for Nutella, 3.5 million is nothing for a company like this.

Yup. Relevant "Article"
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
April 28 2012 00:09 GMT
#64
On April 28 2012 08:53 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 08:49 Resent wrote:
it says 2.5mil will be spread out to all the claimants, so i guess she gets the other 1mill?


No... most of it will go to the lawyers.

Not sure why people are complaining about the lawsuit. How else are average people supposed to get accountability from big companies?

Read and make sense of the nutrition facts, nutrition is very easy to grasp and how to read labels. People who don't and complain otherwise deserve to be overweight/obese.
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
April 28 2012 00:09 GMT
#65
Lots of armchair lawyers in this thread....at least read some of the filings:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2011cv00205/343346/
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
April 28 2012 00:09 GMT
#66
On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote:
The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article )



If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won.

Although ridiculous... i can see how..


Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance.

Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:14:34
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#67
This lawsuit is for false advertisement. Ferero DID advertise Nutela as a "healthy" product. It isn't. They should be punished. I've seen a lot of frivolous and stupid lawsuits, this is not one of them.

On April 28 2012 09:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:03 AgentChaos wrote:
at least the big company loses the case

take note everyone. its attitudes like this that force big companies to settle claims that have low legitimacy.


Every time any individual or "class" can get any amount of money out of a company through the courts its a huge victory. Corporations have legal departments and deep pockets to mount legal defence and to do what is essentially legal bullying in the hopes of getting people to settle for less than what they deserve. A multinational losing a lawsuit is like a Korean losing to a foreigner in the GSL
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:13:24
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#68
On April 28 2012 08:57 TALegion wrote:
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On April 28 2012 08:56 Netsky wrote:
On April 28 2012 08:54 TALegion wrote:
I'm losing more and more faith in this country every single day. Is it like this everywhere else?
I need to see this trial. I can't believe that someone, more or less and entire jury, accepted this without there being some HUGE argument that this article doesn't talk about.


No, they settled.

Thank god. But still, why? This is beyond the usual bull-shit justice system.

You seriously don't understand why they settled, often in the US settling is done in the pretext that only the company/person is allowed to talk about the case to the press it also allows files to not be made available to the public etc. This allows companies to spin to their liking the famous McDonnals case is a perfect example of this, mcdonnalds knew that their coffee could and did case 3rd degree burns within seconds of contact with the skin, requiring skin graphing it was the negligence and physical injury that was being brought to them by hundreds of people.
http://www.hotcoffeethemovie.com/Default.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants
There is a good book on popular so called frivolous lawsuit cases but i forget the name of the book, it also talks about arbitration and the good and bad of that gaining popularity.

Often companies use settling as a way to spin tort reform etc because they control what gets sent to the media allowing them to spin the story to make them out as the victim, but there is no need for reform as any judge not insane would throw out stupid cases. It's funny how people think justice system lacks common sense as if judges weren't people capable of similar thought.

On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where they hell did they say it was healthy?

It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular.
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#69
as much as i think it's totally stupid that it has to be a random woman suing nutella, you can't deny that nutella is making false advertisements with their products (in france at least), i mean, how can you tell people it's perfect for a good healthy nutrition when anyone that knows a bit about diet and stuff will tell you it's total bullshit. they could just make advertisements telling WOW NUTELLA SO GOOD TASTE SO IMBA BUY NUTELLA $$$$ instead they try to make you feel like it's healthy, when it's not.
Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#70
Eh... From the Youtube video: Balanced breakfast based on fat reduced milk, banana and a hi-fibre white bread with 10g nutella (per slice)

Nutella is just like butter but instead of just fat, it's sugar/carbs. Problem is obviously that this so called mother gave them too much... You wouldn't give your child too much butter right?
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#71
You gotta be kidding...

This seems so american.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
April 28 2012 00:10 GMT
#72
Nuts.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#73
On April 28 2012 09:09 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 08:53 mindspike wrote:
On April 28 2012 08:49 Resent wrote:
it says 2.5mil will be spread out to all the claimants, so i guess she gets the other 1mill?


No... most of it will go to the lawyers.

Not sure why people are complaining about the lawsuit. How else are average people supposed to get accountability from big companies?

Read and make sense of the nutrition facts, nutrition is very easy to grasp and how to read labels. People who don't and complain otherwise deserve to be overweight/obese.


That's not what he was asking. In fact, that's not even relevant to this case.

Nobody deserves to be lied to, whether they fall for it or not. And when it happens in media, the responsible side should be held accountable for it.
EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
April 28 2012 00:12 GMT
#74
the lady is either really really smart and realised that she could get heaps of money off this, or really really dumb and actually believed these ads
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
April 28 2012 00:12 GMT
#75
On April 28 2012 09:09 lodeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote:
The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNLUFA34iw

If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won.

Although ridiculous... i can see how..


Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance.

Skim Milk is fantastic. Idk what world you live in.
YouMake
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
April 28 2012 00:13 GMT
#76
Nutella is fucking delicious especially on hard crusty italian bread w00t w00t. fuck this bitch rot in hell..
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but all out of bubble gum! - Duke Nukem!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 28 2012 00:14 GMT
#77
On April 28 2012 09:12 mR.bONG789 wrote:
the lady is either really really smart and realised that she could get heaps of money off this, or really really dumb and actually believed these ads

so false advertisement is okay in your book?
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
April 28 2012 00:15 GMT
#78
On April 28 2012 09:12 mR.bONG789 wrote:
the lady is either really really smart and realised that she could get heaps of money off this, or really really dumb and actually believed these ads


She doesn't get heaps of money. Its a class action lawsuit ...money is split between anyone who bought a can of nutella in california and files a claim.
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 28 2012 00:15 GMT
#79
On April 28 2012 09:10 semantics wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 08:53 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where they hell did they say it was healthy?

It's always implied that it is in the commercials i've scene. Often being put out there as better then peanut butter, although frankly non hydrogenated peanut butter is quite good in small to moderate amounts as long as you're active but that kind of peanut butter you have to stur up becuase it gets liquidly as it separates out so it's not as popular.

It's wrong to be sued because of what is "implied". There is absolutely no objective argument in this kind of decision.
lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
April 28 2012 00:16 GMT
#80
On April 28 2012 09:12 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 09:09 lodeet wrote:
On April 28 2012 09:05 Keitzer wrote:
The "ad" ( as linked in the Yahoo article )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNLUFA34iw

If you watch it from a "balanced breakfast" side of things... it's VERY convincing toward the lady's action. I can see how she won.

Although ridiculous... i can see how..


Yeah balanced. Meaning banana and milk good (Even though our milk is terrible for you) and nutella plus white bread bad = balance.

Skim Milk is fantastic. Idk what world you live in.


I live in the real world and im a nutritionist and the ad states "REDUCED FAT MILK" which is technically 2% milk.

And while you may think Skim Milk is "fantastic" that has nothing to do with its nutritional value.
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